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Time To Change Your Paradigm

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    theAlchemist
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    1615
    And He hath cast into the earth firm hills that it quake not with you, and streams and roads that ye may find a way.

    I did mention it earlier. Generally the mainstream interpretation is that it is saying the mountains are made firm, and then the "scientific miracle" people go further mentioning the pegs that mountains have which help to stabilize them.

    Do you believe the planet Earth is flat?

    Salam Brother,
    I personally think the globe model of earth has been well Established when man stepped on moon for the first time.They got a visual of round earth for the first in human history. But it has been proved that moon landing is nothing but a Hollywood movie directed by Stunley Kubrick. There are so many things out there that does not satisfy me to believe in a globe model of earth. There is a relation between Illuminate,CERN,New World Order, reptilian shapeshifter,earth dome.

    You are a globe earthiest,right? So why do you think that the earth is more likely a globe?

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      hicham9
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      ... So why do you think that the earth is more likely a globe?

      Indoctrination.

      https//ethicsalarms.files.wordpress.com/2013/04/indoctrination.jpg

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        virtueorvice
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        I agree that they never went to the moon! I agree that NASA manipulates the images and videos!

        But what about the physics and chemistry? What about the mechanisms through which the sun releases its energy? What about the earthquakes? What about the deepest point on earth, the Mariana Trench?

        Actually, there is a dome around the earth and that is a magnetic shield provided by earth's rotation!

        and about the flights not taking the shortest path over Antarctica, it may be because in case the planes fail or crash they would have a hard time sending rescue forces to those cold, stormy regions so they take the safest routes!

        I find it too hard to accept that all around the Flat Earth there are military forces preventing people from reaching the edge! How many forces and infantry would we need, considering the vastness of the earth?!

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          Wakas
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          peace Pazuzu, all,

          This short but effective video of 9 minutes shows us how the sun actually "sets" on our flat world. We are used to the word "sunset", because, due to the visual laws of perspective and the vanishing point of any object which moves away from us, we perceive that the sun is dissapearing or dipping beyond the horizon. But actually it's not. The timelapse shown in the first 3 minutes is spot on.

          You can do the experiment using a flashlight over a large, flat surface, and slowly move the light away from you, while you fix your eyes on it. It also proves that the sun is nowhere near the size of the Earth! It's basically a lamp, that shines on a huge, flat surface.

          The way they have deceived humanity is beyond belief.

          https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_gM_NDMaDE

          Please answer the following

          1. what shape is the sun?
          2. does light travel in a straight line?
          3. by "vanishing point" do you mean the sun moves away from an observer VERTICALLY or HORIZONTALLY or something else? In other words, what motion does the sun have in your view?
          4. how do you explain regions such as iceland which experience months of permanently visible sun, and months of permanently non-visible sun?

          All information is correct to the best of my knowledge only and thus should not be taken as a fact. One should always seek knowledge and verify for themselves when possible: 17:36, 20:114, 35:28, 49:6, 58:11.

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            good_logic
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            Peace All.

            I cannot make out whether this is serious or a joke.

            How can we prove the earth is whatever shape it is?

            Do you think internet links can ever be a "proof"? Is this not what everyone is doing?

            For example

            http//www.physlink.com/education/askexperts/ae535.cfm

            Have I proved to you the earth is spherical?

            No?

            Then I give up. By the way I have nothing to do with the "Illuminati"!!! What goes around comes around,perhaps it is round.

            GOD bless you all.
            Peace.

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              hicham9
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              What did our Master say?

              If we disagree over anything, we do what? (459)

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                theAlchemist
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                I agree that they never went to the moon! I agree that NASA manipulates the images and videos!

                But what about the physics and chemistry? What about the mechanisms through which the sun releases its energy? What about the earthquakes? What about the deepest point on earth, the Mariana Trench?

                Actually, there is a dome around the earth and that is a magnetic shield provided by earth's rotation!

                and about the flights not taking the shortest path over Antarctica, it may be because in case the planes fail or crash they would have a hard time sending rescue forces to those cold, stormy regions so they take the safest routes!

                I find it too hard to accept that all around the Flat Earth there are military forces preventing people from reaching the edge! How many forces and infantry would we need, considering the vastness of the earth?!

                Salam Brother,
                Then what was the hidden purpose of NASA to stage a fake moon drama? I am not denying physics and chemistry. Gravity is an important part of physics as they claim..But the fact is gravity does not exist.You can prove that with a simple helium balloon.Does the sun's energy release mechanism has anything to do with earth shape? Yeah earth may have deepest point.We are not talking about earth thickness.May be its huge.

                Yeah you are right. They are not circling around the earth.They have technology.

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                  Zulf
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                  I find it odd when someone says that gravity doesn't exist. Doesn't the apple fall to the ground?? What makes things fall downward in a flat world??? Even in a flat world there'd need to be gravity. Or?

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                    hicham9
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                    O Collectivity? of Coverts? and Commoners,

                    if ye should be able to escape from the confines? of the heavens and the earth, then escape.

                    Ye won't breakout,

                    save by sanction

                    CU
                    Sreh
                    5533


                    ? or, Society
                    ? ie. Privateers
                    ? ie. the borders or boundaries
                    lit. except with an authorization.

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                      reel
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                      Gravity
                      Disproof of Gravityhttp//www.gsjournal.net/old/science/guerami.pdf
                      Seven things that don't make sense about gravity http//www.newscientist.com/special/seven-things-that-dont-make-sense-about-gravity
                      "Gravity Doesn't Exist" --Is this Fundamental Phenomenon of the Universe an Illusion?http//www.dailygalaxy.com/my_weblog/2012/11/gravity-doesnt-exist-is-gravity-an-illusion.html

                      When science shakes hand with marketing great lies can be shown as complete truth.

                      Then what was the hidden purpose of NASA to stage a fake moon drama?

                      Competition with Russia

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                        runninglikezebras
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                        Tin foil hats for everyone!

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                          OussamaNL
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                          Thank you dear God, my brains did a nice worked after reading this thread.

                          Greetings from The Netherlands. May God increase our Knowledge.

                          Peace.

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                            Man_of_Faith
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                            Hello mmmm,

                            What is wrong with communism? Have you read the ideology behind it and not just what you have read about it of propaganda? That is the most conforming ideology with GOD as it can be. Everyone is cared for under a real communism. It is only selfish people who like to have the systems we have now, but in GOD's kingdom it will be fully implemented communism so I wait for that.

                            You have probably only watched the excuses for communism in the world which was only a charade. Soviet/Russia, China or Cuba are not exactly communism but dictatorships under the guise of communism. Talk about having hijacked Karl Marx's philosophies.

                            Many former working classes and poor families today could have reasonable advancement under the revolution of the workers that happened in the 19th and 20th centuries with the creation of unions. You can thank the partial implementation of communism for that which is called socialism, which is at least a good way to go and sufficient.

                            It is basically good vs. evil, communism vs. conservative and it has always been and many are fooled into voting for those backwards conservative parties who talk about liberty while the real liberty is more towards the socialistic direction.

                            If communism was fully implemented in a nation no one would ever go hungry and it would prosper technologically and more love would be among the citizens as less people are outcasts, as long as the nation functions with its economy. Unfortunately people have the wrong idea about this concept.

                            But the most important would be to change the mentality of man to be less greedy and more tender.

                            Be well

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                              unknownuser
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                              The best we can say, is that we don't know. Unless you can actually get a bird's eye view of the entire earth - you can't "prove" anything.

                              In any case it matters not whether the land we reside on is a plane or spherical or egg shaped or cylindrical. Any manifestation of Earth proves The All-Mighty's existence. Whether there is a sheet of ice surrounding the Earth's rim and a bio-dome/protective layer (which I think exists in any case) or all of the planets orbiting their star, it still proves a Creator's existence.

                              The Quran is a book of guidance on morality and that we will be accountable for it to our Creator one day. Let's not ignore that. The Quran is not a product manual on the sizes and shapes and speeds of physical objects (although it does refer to scientific aspects on several occasions). We should not be arguing with each other on what the shape or size of anything is, because remember, all these current physical manifestations are temporary and will vanish one day. On that day we will know the truth in anyway so lets focus on what's important, belief in the Creator and the last day, and to do good to mankind.

                              That being said, I agree that the human lunar landing was sheer nonsense as are a lot of other things that NASA spews out. It probably was a hoax. Their own photographs prove it. It was nothing but an Egoistic endeavor - a very laughable one at that.

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                                Man_of_Faith
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                                Some kind of gravity exists or otherwise you would not be sucked towards the Earth's ground whenever you jump but bump your head in the ceiling of that theory of yours.

                                Magnetism exists because the Earth contains a magnetic field which various apparatus can measure.

                                Then we also can ask ourselves what it is we see in telescopes when you behold planets and galaxies. Is it large video screens showing prerecorded material?

                                If you look beyond the horizon over an ocean it will say something.

                                Anyway, I am not into the astronomy business except reading science magazines, but I favor those studies over these.

                                What happens when meteors hit the Earth? Are GOD throwing down rocks?

                                Be well

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                                  Jafar
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                                  The best we can say, is that we don't know. Unless you can actually get a bird's eye view of the entire earth - you can't "prove" anything.

                                  There has been many people who actually has seen the 'satellite view' of the entire earth using their own eyes.

                                  And in the very near future travelling to space will be available in such low cost and everyone can see with their own eyes.

                                  It's much better to spent the effort to solve the following

                                  • How to make space travel efficient and low cost
                                  • How to travel to another solar system or galaxy efficiently

                                  Rather than debating on the 'shape of the earth'..
                                  (Which is actually obvious for those who has decent mind)

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                                    runninglikezebras
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                                    During the 8th-10th century muslims were the pioneers in many sciences. Lightyears ahead of Europe. In 2015 we are again confronted with muslims claiming the earth is flat. It's depressing to think about.

                                    Peace

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                                      runninglikezebras
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                                      And (the) people of Nuh before indeed they were a people defiantly disobedient. And the heaven We constructed it with strength, and indeed We are surely its Expanders. And the earth, we have spread it how excellent are the Spreaders.

                                      Quran is telling us how the universe is Gods creation, expanding, just like the big bang theory describes. Then Quran goes on to tell us how the Earth was created; from a flat protoplanetary disk. The Quran uses the word l-mhidna, also used for bed, cradle. Clearly, Quran is speaking about the creation of earth - proto-planetary disks are the cradles of planets.

                                      One unresolved issue with the current scientific model is that it cannot explain how the initial orbits of the proto-terrestrial planets, which would have needed to be highly eccentric to collide, produced the remarkably stable and nearly circular orbits they have today.

                                      Of course science does not take into account God when dealing with proto-terrestial planets.

                                      Peace

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                                        Man_of_Faith
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                                        The curse of religion and the (separate) god delusion.

                                        Be well

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                                          GODsubmitter
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                                          An interesting article about medieval mentality that influences scientific thought nowadays, evolution et al, and why, perhaps, we are not even supposed to "know" everything...

                                          http//wn.rsarchive.org/Lectures/19230126p01.html

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