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Time To Change Your Paradigm

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    FreedomStands
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    Your obsession with the paedophile Stanley Kubrick is disconcerting.

    I laughed.

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      FreedomStands
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      @pazuzu salaam,

      further, 3 points

      1. since the "renaissance" and the current implementation of modern Science, there has been an acceleration in development of means to marshal the environment, this is how I appraise a paradigm, its practical success, the church with its clinging to old models of nature failed, this current model we are using has been a success.

      2. that Antarctica matter, why does it have to be what Flat Earthers are advocating, i.e. the rim boundaries of the supposed dome, there might be other things they are hiding they do not want the public to see.

      3. if there was a rim wall of ice, do you believe Allah is behind it? whereas he made it clear to Moses that we cannot get to see him ever, until JD, and besides, whatever model and reality, Allah said clearly that those who do not believe will never do whatever you show them, and he specifically talked of an ascension to the heavens, with a day 50,000 years of what you reckon, so so close, but takes 50,000 years to reach?

      Try better and harder, but do you have the means of your ambitions, or just second hand reports?

      I don't think anyone ever can "see" Allah, whatever they see would always just be information of some sort particular to that person in whatever way they are receiving it, but Allah is literally like nothing, no image, no form, no body, no limitations, no shape, no dimensions, no information, except rather than purely nothing, is able to generate information.

      The big joke is, all information can be considered a "flat" layer, which is a real scientific model too.

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        FreedomStands
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        Perhaps someday if we're ready.

        I did not say that I do not have fear, but it doesn't mean that I would deny something that I recognized as truth.

        However... your post seemed to suggest that you "acknowledge" that Pazuzu told something true - but you don't want to admit it because you're afraid of those occultists.

        lol I really don't think the Occultists have a problem with something like the Flat Earth theory. They are the same people behind making fools of Christians by promoting humans riding on dinosaurs and whatever else in order to mock Christians while funding those programs of misleading people.

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          FreedomStands
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          . . . '___' ?

          Do you think my username is cryptic?

          I thought the Java in your name might refer to Indonesia or something.

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            FreedomStands
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            The Earth is Flat, now what?

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              Man_of_Faith
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              Freedomstands!

              You have to come and save me!!

              I am nearly falling off the edge here!

              Help!

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                FreedomStands
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                Freedomstands!

                You have to come and save me!!

                I am nearly falling off the edge here!

                Help!

                Made me laugh but I'm running and laughing and now I'm slipping because you're on the ice part! I thought I could save you but I can't control the slide, now I might bump you and we'll see what lays beyond this magnificent, strange, wirld we live on. Not world, since that has too rounded of a sound.

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                  FreedomStands
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                  Maybe if I call people on the other side of the world and tell them to all stand on the other edge (carefully) we might be able to tilt ourselves back, but then the whole oceans might spill on them and push them off too, unless the water freezes before reaching them, making a huge ice wall for them to get past in order to return home. Too bad we can't film this event from outer space though, but maybe we could shoot up a harpoon into the sky and hang from the ceiling for a few black and white photos.

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                    Jafar
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                    Freedomstands!

                    You have to come and save me!!

                    I am nearly falling off the edge here!

                    Help!

                    https//m2.behance.net/rendition/pm/770792/disp/17653287faba6e45bde199c138b5685f.jpg

                    No worries if you fall of the edge.. make sure that you keep hanging on to the gigantic turtle below..
                    He's the one who bear the burden of the world (literally) on his back..
                    By the way, have you seen him yet?
                    Call him up.. his name is Oogway..

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                      JavaLatte
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                      I was trying to salvage pazuzu from you crazy Flat Earther lot, as I respect his work on South West Arabia gathering of info and insights.

                      So you have concern for him, that's nice.

                      However, it seems that Pazuzu has more confidence than me regarding the flat earth.

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                        FreedomStands
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                        So you have concern for him, that's nice. )

                        However, it seems that Pazuzu has more confidence than me regarding the flat earth.

                        I think you're in a better state than him then, one should never be too over-confident I think.

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                          JavaLatte
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                          I hope people do not judge Pazuzu from his profile picture.

                          If they know him enough, inshaAllah, they will find him as a kind and righteous person.

                          When he was claiming that the earth is flat, he is not deluded.

                          I think he has ability to understand things which most people don't able to understand.

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                            FreedomStands
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                            I hope people do not judge Pazuzu from his profile picture.

                            If they know him enough, inshaAllah, they will find him as a kind and righteous person.

                            When he was claiming that the earth is flat, he is not deluded.

                            I think he has ability to understand things which most people don't able to understand.

                            In my view, literally, the Earth is flat but vertically, unless I'm lying down. For me the Earth is only what I see, and what I see is just a flat layer of input. So it doesn't matter much to me even if I'm on a planet or not, I'm more concerned with doing good deeds and being beautiful and stuff. If the Earth was flat or round or triangular or none of those, I am just walking around anyway, so I'm more concerned what is presently relevant.

                            I think people are just surprised to discover Pazuzu, who had impressed them before, also believes in the flat earth thing.

                            I've not really heard of the flat earth thing much before I came to this website. I still don't think it is a very important issue at all though, and it seems to have little importance in my life. I'm going to go exercise now for example, what does it matter what shape the Earth is?

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                              JavaLatte
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                              I think people are just surprised to discover Pazuzu, who had impressed them before, also believes in the flat earth thing.

                              Maybe I also surprised when I found that Pazuzu made posts about the flat earth (can't remember anymore whether I surprised or not).

                              But, I felt happy about it. I am glad that he is also aware of this, and glad that he told the forum.

                              Praise be to Allah.

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                                Hizbullah
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                                Peace Nabil,

                                No, I was serious, and always curious about why people choose certain nicks or avatars, as you are not a Hizb, just a person (unless you are many who use same nick), Hezbollah do exist in Lebanon, so are you a member, or a sympathiser?
                                I am curious why you chose this nick.

                                As I was curious why pazuzu chose pazuzu and a zombie avatar, he never answered why, he just joked about it.

                                So why? Party of Allah it translates.

                                As for Bro mmkhan, I find him too pedantic, he is a good person it seems, but I don't like his self-righteous style, I prefer modesty and humility, and not taking oneself too seriously, there are enough Mullahs around 😉 who think they know it all, ask you to be humble. but forget themselves.

                                Peace

                                Nabil (see my real name, not a nick)
                                @inabster @menabster - twitter handles that even have my true picture 😉

                                Peace Bro Nabil

                                The nick i used, the word is in the Quran - 5822

                                Thou wilt not find any people who believe in Allah and the Last Day, loving those who resist Allah and His Messenger, even though they were their fathers or their sons, or their brothers, or their kindred. For such He has written Faith in their hearts, and strengthened them with a spirit from Himself. And He will admit them to Gardens beneath which Rivers flow, to dwell therein (for ever). Allah will be well pleased with them, and they with Him. They are the Party of Allah. Truly it is the Party of Allah that will achieve Felicity.

                                And if you remember the Palestinian - Israeli conflict back in 2005-2006 when Hezbollah infiltrated Israel in a cross-border raid, US Military Analysis said that Hezbullah is not a "Rag Tag Militia" but a trained "Regimental Combat Team" which has the capability of any Army. In fact they are. This makes me proud and I like it.

                                How about guys like you and pazuzu identify yourself, if you are so courageous, instead of posting behind cryptic nicks,

                                So now you are calling us with cryptic nicks cowards? >(

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                                  Hizbullah
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                                  I like the "Party of Allah" title and would apply it to myself. I doubt Hezbollah would satisfy me though in reality, but I like some of the stylistic elements of the "Freedom Fighter" or "Terrorist" stereotype.

                                  handshake

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                                    JavaLatte
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                                    The nick i used, the word is in the Quran - 5822

                                    Thou wilt not find any people who believe in Allah and the Last Day, loving those who resist Allah and His Messenger, even though they were their fathers or their sons, or their brothers, or their kindred. For such He has written Faith in their hearts, and strengthened them with a spirit from Himself. And He will admit them to Gardens beneath which Rivers flow, to dwell therein (for ever). Allah will be well pleased with them, and they with Him. They are the Party of Allah. Truly it is the Party of Allah that will achieve Felicity.

                                    That verse has powerful message. Awesome.

                                    So now you are calling us with cryptic nicks cowards? >

                                    Haha! ;D

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                                      theAlchemist
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                                      Not interested in your gibberish, I was trying to salvage pazuzu from you crazy Flat Earther lot, as I respect his work on South West Arabia gathering of info and insights.

                                      That depends on your knowledge and perception.
                                      Thank you
                                      z.neion

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                                        Zulf
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                                        What you fail to realize is that GRAVITY, as a concept, is necessary in order for their false paradigm to fit together. How else can they explain to the sheeple of the world how gigantic bodies of water can remain curved and hanging upside down?

                                        I'm still wondering, waiting for an answer, what "upside down" means in this context? I haven't seen anyone address this as yet.

                                        What makes down down? And up up? Isn't "down" just defined as "the direction which things fall"?
                                        Why would all things, by their on volition, move in one and the same direction due to density differences? Why would denser things tend to move in one direction more strongly than less dense things? What is the story behind this "universal" direction, which we call "downward".

                                        When an object falls to the ground, it falls due to its own volition, and because of properties that are inherent to the object itself (mass or density relative to air), not because of some theoretical and unproven force in the Earth that pulls the object down to it. This is why hot air rises (not because it has defied GRAVITY, but because its density is less than the density of the air around it). And this is why ships float (because their density is less than the density of the water which they are displacing).

                                        Hot air rises because it is displaced by cooler air (which has higher density). But this doesn't just happen for no reason! WHY is denser/cooler air having a greater affinity to move downward that less dense air? Where is the link/system that makes it all work?

                                        1. What decides the direction to move?
                                        2. Why do denser things move in this direction more strongly than less dense things?

                                        Peace

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                                          virtueorvice
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                                          This is an interesting video made by an amateur astronomer observing (digital!??) waves on the moon...> https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=xUGxysKSGEM

                                          He's not a believer of Flat Earth Theory but if there are really waves on the moon, it might allude to something, like that it's not really what we think it is!

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