Time To Change Your Paradigm
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Earth is flat.
Doesn't take an astro-not to figure it out!Ps. In the Qurn, G-D makes a clear distinction between the (flattend) earth/ground (ض and the (erected) mountains/formations (ل.
Is this video meant to prove Earth is flat or that Earth is beautiful or none of those?
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Flat earth is beautiful ~
Praise be to Allah.
Dazzling indeed.
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Can the flat earthers explain to me what I see when I'm looking at a clear image of the ISS through my telescope? Thank you.
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Or perhaps join this facebook group Flat Earth vs Spherical Earth
and ask them what you need to know about the flat earth.
I think there are quite many flat earthers as members, and this group is growing quite fast, in my opinion.
However, it seems the admins are "pretty cool" when dealing with "trolls and shills",
so if you're not serious at there, or only want to ridicule us, or playing with us, then maybe you will be "kicked out" (that's one of the reasons why I like this group).
Peace.
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Well, I think people here ask direct questions to "Flat Earthers" on this forum not primarily to find out the stance of the flat earth society in general (because such info is readily available on internet), but rather to see if the individuals here (who promote flat earth) actually have thought through the science behind round vs flat earth, and to see to what extent they actually endorse the flat earth model.
So, the point in asking specific questions here, is not to ridicule, but rather to force the flat earther to ponder the issues raised.
The horrible thing is when someone claims to endorse some point of view, but then not having carried out any deliberate pondering about the things that speak for it and against it. It is very easy to refer to a website and let others answer questions, but the issue is not that.. it's not about presenting general points of view, but rather personal points of view AND to see if each individual have done some thinking for themselves or not. People generally don't think when it comes to things that get intermingled with emotions and identity. Thinking is generally not priority in things like religion, politics, sports, nationalism etc.
So, if I ask a question to YOU and YOU are not able to give an answer that you have thought through, but still insist on maintaining your point of view, then that is not good, for YOU. We are told to examine the world and THEN come to conclusions, even if the conclusion is that we just don't know yet.
I seriously find it amazing that people can dismiss very simple and straightforward signs that point to a round earth. Pt2
This has nothing to do with NASA, shape shifters, free masons or what not. Totally regardless of who is lying about what, we still have our own eyes and intellect to make sense out of the world.
I'm watching videos both for and against flat earth.... otherwise I would not have been honest. And I find it extraordinary that people would dismiss the things highlighted in for these two videos 1 2
This is not bout us vs them... no, it's rather about putting forth arguments for and against a certain topic.
Peace and best wishes
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I'm still studying the issue as well, but I already have enough reasons to accept it.
The proofs are enough for me, and I can understand for myself about those.
However, I have to admit that I have weakness in English language and I am also not capable to explain to others about certain things in appropriate way, even though I can understand them for myself.
I tried to convey what I know, if you don't want to accept it, then it's fine, inshaAllah.
And I tried to tell this issue to this forum also because I consider the members are my brothers and sisters in faith, so I tried to tell them what I think important for them to know, if I don't consider them as my brothers/sisters, then why should I bother to tell about this (only to get ridiculed).
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If I discuss things to you for example, brother Zulf, I want to talk as if I speak toward my brother, so I don't like to talk to brothers here while consider them as opponents for debate. No, I don't like debate. I want to talk in here like we're family.
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Can the flat earthers explain to me what I see when I'm looking at a clear image of the ISS through my telescope? Thank you.
Salaam brother,
It will be inequitable to say something based on others perception.I can't say this or that without resting my eye piece on a heavy telescope. But can we throw the possibility of a high altitude aircraft or unmanned military craft there,rotating for telecommunication or other purposes? They will go any possible height to make there fiction utterly true(I believe so). If you check some ISS YouTube video you will find so many inconsistencies there.Thank you. )
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I'm still studying the issue as well, but I already have enough reasons to accept it.
The proofs are enough for me, and I can understand for myself about those.
However, I have to admit that I have weakness in English language and I am also not capable to explain to others about certain things in appropriate way, even though I can understand them for myself.
I tried to convey what I know, if you don't want to accept it, then it's fine, inshaAllah.
And I tried to tell this issue to this forum also because I consider the members are my brothers and sisters in faith, so I tried to tell them what I think important for them to know, if I don't consider them as my brothers/sisters, then why should I bother to tell about this (only to get ridiculed).
I highly agree with you,sister. ) But the fact is that we are being ridiculed from the very beginning.Indeed pathetic
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Peace all,
what the conspiracy theorists do to validate their "truths" is similar and a mirror image to what the perpetrators are doing, which is to go to any length to legitimise or de-legitimise a claim.
If you don't have the means of your ambition, then either try to get them, or accept what you cannot change and deal with what you can.
The victors are always right, they own the system.
I care for my salvation, and thank God, it is not dependent on whether Earth is flat or not.
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They will go any possible height to make there fiction utterly true
lol I wonder if that applies to others as well.
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lol I wonder if that applies to others as well.
Well we have many examples among all groups, take the Feds for example and their spiriting money out of thin air, based on Market manipulation trickeries of money as debt and usury...
the MIC weaponising fear and selling it to all governments without exception through false flags and propaganda campaigns...
the Medical and Pharma industries hand in hand with the FDA, creating diseases, malnutrition, hormonal imbalances, deceit to sell drugs which create even more problems, to which they offer further solutions, that create more problems, etc.
and don't get me started with the packaging and marketing of religions and belief systems galore...
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The victors are always right, they own the system.
Peace.
You are probably right. It doesn't matter whether they are on right track or wrong,really? Should we remain calm under their system like a pet knowing that they are ambiguous?but are just flashing about second hand videos and testimonies of people who have no weight within the order that be.
I think globe earthers are no exceptional.They can't even question or don't bother to ask what they are being taught from childhood.
Say, you have a good post on this forum and that I agree with,then whats wrong to share that as my own view with my friend? If my friend is clever enough he may refute whats in the post and won't quarrel whether it is second handed or lousy or where it come from.
Thank you
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Peace.
You're still making the point that you don't mind propagating info just because it sounds right. You are the own and Flat Earthers who are pushing to challenge the current paradigm, well good luck to you, I have more immediate matters to deal with than going on a wild goose chase of something I am not convinced of.
You are the one trying to convince me, I don't care.
Galileo cared, and he died for his belief of a round earth, I am not that committed to an idea to do with topology.
It helped destroy the Church though, whereas Muslims got destroyed by the opposite, clinging to dogma, and refusing to modernise, exhibit the Ottomans and their distrust of Science.