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Are you fasting? if so do you make salat? is salah necessary in ramadan?

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    hicham9
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    The majority calls the sky blue,

    Then, they're wrong.

    they say that humans generally have 4 limbs (2 arms and 2 legs), and other odd things like that.

    What does the minority say!?

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      FreedomStands
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      Then, they're wrong.

      What does the minority say!?

      Say something and then I'll tell you what the minority says on the matter.

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        JavaLatte
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        Then, they're wrong.

        Hicham, you got me to think about it.

        You're probably right, perhaps they're even wrong about the sky's color.

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          hicham9
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          Say something and then I'll tell you what the minority says on the matter.

          I don't owe you a thing, sir!

          Why would you care to hear the opinion of a deluded "flat-earther" in the first place!?

          Hicham, you got me to think about it.

          Glad you do, my sister.
          Nowhere in the Qurn does G-D attribute "color" to the sky.

          Be sound.

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            JavaLatte
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            Nowhere in the Qurn does G-D attribute "color" to the sky.

            As I recall, I never read any verse about that, yes.

            Edit

            Ooh, I think I started to get the point!! Thanks, my brother.

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              hicham9
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              Ooh, I think I started to get the point!! Thanks, my brother.

              You're most welcome, my sister.

              All praise be to The Superior Master/Owner of us (tellurians), our Omniscient Teacher, The Absolute One.

              SLM

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                FreedomStands
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                I don't owe you a thing, sir!

                Why would you care to hear the opinion of a deluded "flat-earther" in the first place!?

                Glad you do, my sister.
                Nowhere in the Qurn does G-D attribute "color" to the sky.

                Be sound.

                Did I call you deluded? I don't have much of a strong opinion on you, I'm too full of general hatred to consider you particularly deluded haha.

                I don't care what the Qur'an says about the "color" the sky. If the Qur'an said to jump off a bridge, would you do it?

                The Qur'an is only useful because it confirms the truth, not the other way around.

                If the Qur'an says something wrong then it is to be rejected, we were never asked to behave like blind people when it comes to religion, we follow logic, observation, and whatever else, if something is in accordance with what we comprehend to be true then it is good, and if it isn't then we don't follow it.

                That is the difference between senseless people and those who think. If the Qur'an said Jesus is God would you go worshiping Jesus suddenly?

                I don't believe in the Qur'an for the sake of the Qur'an, it says true things that are confirmed by all kinds of factors, if it didn't, I wouldn't follow it.

                So who cares if "G-d" (why do you do that Jewish thing again?), didn't mention the color of the sky, it is known as blue to the majority.

                God didn't mention many things, like the Postal Service or Ipads, they exist though, we make reference to them, Allah even invented them.

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                  hicham9
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                  ... we were never asked to behave like blind people when it comes to religion ...

                  G-D doesn't recruit the deaf/dumb/blind (sheeple).

                  To you be your judgment, and to me mine.

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                    FreedomStands
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                    Neither does G-D recruit the deaf/dumb/blind (sheeple).

                    To you be your judgment, and to me mine.

                    What is my judgment? I asked you particular questions in that post, it would be kind of you to answer them if possible.

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                      hicham9
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                      What is my judgment?

                      Your dyn!
                      Aka. your opinion, or view ...

                      I asked you particular questions in that post, it would be kind of you to answer them if possible.

                      I'm afraid it's not possible.
                      You've been given enough hints already!
                      The rest is up to your own mind to discern,
                      or is it, by any chance, sealed? (625, 26-7, &c.)

                      Goodbye.

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                        FreedomStands
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                        Your dyn!
                        Aka. your opinion, or view ...

                        I'm afraid it's not possible.
                        You've been given enough hints already!
                        The rest is up to your own mind to discern,
                        or is it, by any chance, sealed? (625, 26-7, &c.)

                        Goodbye.

                        You're kind of rude. I was asking what you thought my judgment is, not what judgment is. I was asking if you would believe the Qur'an no matter what it said, you didn't answer that. Then you try to say my mind is sealed for some reason? I hope not, but it seemed rude, your whole interaction with me from pretty early on has seemed kind of rude, not sure what your problem might be.

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                          hicham9
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                          You're kind of rude.

                          Candour doesn't = rudeness!

                          Nonetheless, I can be stern ... or mild.
                          Depends on whom I'm dealing with.

                          I was asking what you thought my judgment is, not what judgment is.

                          Ok, my bad!

                          To you be your judgment, and to me mine.

                          I was asking if you would believe the Qur'an no matter what it said, you didn't answer that.

                          Yes! (hopefully)
                          What G-D's messenger says.
                          Not what others erroneously think it says!

                          SLM

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                            FreedomStands
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                            Candour doesn't = rudeness!

                            Nonetheless, I can be stern ... or mild.
                            Depends on whom I'm dealing with.

                            Ok, my bad!

                            To you be your judgment, and to me mine.

                            Yes! (hopefully)
                            What G-D's messenger says.
                            Not what others erroneously think it says!

                            SLM

                            See, that is interesting to me. To me it works the other way around, that we figure out of a person is telling the truth based on what they are saying, if it matches up with our experience of reality or is logically true, and if they are lying then we can figure it out because it doesn't make sense.

                            You made a statement which appeared to indicate you believed I had some particular judgment, which is why I was asking what you thought it might be, since I wanted to know what I had appeared to give off as my belief or idea or whatever, that is fine though if you don't want to answer that one or don't have an answer for that one. Thank you for answering the Qur'an question though.

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                              hicham9
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                              See, that is interesting to me. To me it works the other way around, that we figure out of a person is telling the truth based on what they are saying, if it matches up with our experience of reality or is logically true, and if they are lying then we can figure it out because it doesn't make sense.

                              Like the earth being flat and stable!?

                              You made a statement which appeared to indicate you believed I had some particular judgment, which is why I was asking what you thought it might be, since I wanted to know what I had appeared to give off as my belief or idea or whatever, that is fine though if you don't want to answer that one or don't have an answer for that one.

                              Your (unsound) judgment was

                              ... The Qur'an is only useful because it confirms the truth, not the other way around ...

                              I can import some previous statements of yours (from other threads) if you wish.

                              Thank you for answering the Qur'an question though.

                              You're welcome, sir.

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                                es
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                                Salaam Hicham,

                                Salute @Sajda,

                                You, my dear friend, deserve a hint.

                                To me, the ?hr in question is a constellation ...
                                There are twelve (936).

                                Enough said.

                                SLM

                                Yet more stuff to research- thank you.. I'll add it to the list!

                                Peace.

                                Sajda.

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                                  Man_of_Faith
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                                  Freedomstands,

                                  Some people are like that. Do not get yourself changed. Discuss with other people.

                                  I know it may be hard to stop writing people though.

                                  I have myself been a bit hard with people regarding the new discovery I made with Quran and how the faith really looks like. I will calm down and wait if they understand eventually instead and focus on people who want to hear.

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                                    JavaLatte
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                                    Yes! (hopefully)

                                    I agree, hicham.

                                    It's better to believe in the Qur'an rather than to believe in human's teaching.

                                    I found that the information/lessons from the Qur'an are more reliable and more trustworthy than any other books/writings (even if those come from so called "experts&quot.

                                    For me, the Qur'an is like a replacement of the messenger,

                                    and I feel that the Original Sender of this scripture wants me to follow it and to trust all of the messages in it without any doubt.

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                                      Man_of_Faith
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                                      I agree, hicham.

                                      It's better to believe in the Qur'an rather than to believe in human's teaching.

                                      I found that the information/lessons from the Qur'an are more reliable and more trustworthy than any other books/writings (even if those come from so called "experts&quot.

                                      For me, the Qur'an is like a replacement of the messenger,

                                      and I feel that the Original Sender of this scripture wants me to follow it and to trust all of the messages in it without any doubt.

                                      Yet you normally depend on someone's interpretation. They become your teacher anyway. So you have to study what that interpretation said carefully despite that "even if those come from so called "experts""

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                                        JavaLatte
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                                        Yet you normally depend on someone's interpretation.

                                        STOP SAYING SUCH THINGS.

                                        Do you really know how I learn?

                                        Do you really know? NO, you don't.

                                        You don't even see how I do my study.

                                        And, I don't have to explain the details to you.

                                        But you should know that I do not learn by the method like what you thought.

                                        You don't understand what I meant.

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                                          FreedomStands
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                                          STOP SAYING SUCH THINGS.

                                          Who are you to say that?

                                          Do you really know how I learn?

                                          Do you really know? NO, you don't.

                                          You don't even see how I do my study.

                                          And, I don't have to explain the details to you.

                                          But you should know that I do not learn by the method like what you thought.

                                          You don't understand what I meant.

                                          I'm curious about your method if it isn't too much trouble, and I won't make fun of you or anything.

                                          Is it that you read and then a thought comes to your mind or heart that explains it to you?

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