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Are you fasting? if so do you make salat? is salah necessary in ramadan?

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    Man_of_Faith
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    #41

    STOP SAYING SUCH THINGS.

    Do you really know how I learn?

    Do you really know? NO, you don't.

    You don't even see how I do my study.

    And, I don't have to explain the details to you.

    But you should know that I do not learn by the method like what you thought.

    You don't understand what I meant.

    When you treat Allah as a proper noun plus a lot of other errors that means you rely on someone's interpretation. You are not alone though for many are the sheep.

    Unless you personally reinterpret and decipher the whole Quran anew then you rely on someone's interpretation, even if you learn the mainstream Classical Arabic language skill.

    Be well

    ps. I saw you had erased a line. I am me.

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      JavaLatte
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      @ MoF

      So, is it you who have right to define "Allah" for me?

      No.

      In my opinion, you tried to make me forsake the true message of the Qur'an.

      Your "preachings" and how you behave are not even similar like the prophets or messengers.

      How could I let myself to follow someone like you?

      Let my Creator teaches me by Himself. He should be enough for me.

      Stop acting like you're the only one who could "save" people in this world

      from following the wrong interpretation.

      I'm not going to use your Qur'an interpretation, inshaAllah,

      because I'm aware that you're not trustworthy enough for something like that.

      I think you even have a horrible obsession

      and you're even blind from recognizing your own serious error.

      Stop acting like you're "god" or something holy.

      Remember that you're a human,

      you're not a Deity,

      you're not the Creator,

      you will never be like Him.

      You can't.

      Wake up, MoF, you're not God.

      I think you have been overpowered by your obsession.

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        Man_of_Faith
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        #43

        Your "preachings" and how you behave are not even similar like the prophets or messengers.

        How are they not similar? Somewhere you have to deal with all the falsehood in the world. On the matter of behavior I have worked hard on improvement, but somewhere I have to risk hurting someone's feelings/pride to reach through. I have been tinkering on how I can minimize the emotional hurt with people by the choice of words. On a total I have vastly improved my behavior.

        People are not countering me peacefully either, so it is a struggle to maintain the balance, but it is generally better to let go of those who simply are out to argue without listening. It is not like I am forced to convince every fool of the Earth.

        Stop acting like you're the only one who could "save" people in this world

        I am not the only one who can "save the world", but someone has to begin. It is not my fault that I noticed something that no one else did for over thousand years. And that someone has to do something or otherwise that one would not be helpful while knowing the truth.

        However, it is a misconception by you and perhaps others that people are forced to adopt the words, but that is because I work on reaching through and there is a little offensiveness perhaps in the approach. The utterances of those who preach are for those who are receptive to listen to them. It is so that the Rabb are waiting for the perfect fruit, not the defect. I think it is better to have the pride hurt than have to experience the "fire".

        Wake up, MoF, you're not God.

        I am not the Rabb no and I have never claimed it either. I never said I am that and it is only you who could not interpret my words properly. There is only a Oneness in the world and separation of that Oneness is duality and idolatry, meaning one has to exist in that "platform" rather than treating it as separate.

        I think you have been overpowered by your obsession.

        I am not really obsessed, but determined and I know that this reinterpretation and deciphering work is true and the only way to proclaim that to the world is by highlighting the flaws in what others believe while reinforcing the arguments in the sources that I have. You have not yet even hearkened unto the discovery of the nature of the word Allah but continue to treat that as your Rabb. But then you hearken unto a pathetically bad interpretation of a scripture called Quran by people who had no clue of what they read.

        It appears that human bodies always look for something to worship whether it be leaders, scholars, gods or themselves, and this god delusion that you and others are having is only detrimental for you. That means Shaytaan (instincts) have taken the grip over them. Find some self-esteem instead and realize yourself under the "umbrella" of the Rabb (Sustaining Foundation) and delete both your ego and gods altogether and adopt true Oneness instead of the false duality of sectarians.

        I said to you before that you should exist in the Rabb, not that you are the Rabb and I never said you should ever be the Rabb. "Be in the Creator and the Creator in you".

        But I already predict that you have made up your mind, but perchance one day you shall see.

        Echoing in Quran's true interpretation is to act like Allah + desired attribute, but you cannot see it. For one, you do not understand the meaning of 'iman', secondly you do not know or reject what the word Allah means despite every effort.

        Be well

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          JavaLatte
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          I don't want to deal with you any further, MoF.

          I have enough reasons for not following your path.

          May my Rabb continue to save me from your false doctrine.

          The messengers conveyed straightforward message,

          they're not like you.

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            hicham9
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            I don't think your current understanding to be valid either @MOF.

            You speculate too much!
            & you wish to impress rather than learn.

            SLM

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              FreedomStands
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              If there is anything that one can take from the message of Man of Faith so far it is to not be so materialistic or material loving like some people are, which is a message that has pervaded through a great deal of religions.

              In the real experience of things, the material things are fading and their fading and decaying and constant changing leaves it to be unreliable and even painful and the cause of much suffering.

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                Man_of_Faith
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                #47

                Freedomstands,

                Yes. The underlying reason is because it is an instinctive drive.

                Hicham,

                I am not here to impress people. I am after helping people wake up from their slumber. Fame is not my area. I prefer solitude and no recognition.

                And I am learning everyday, probably more than I teach out yet.

                JavaLatte,

                Suit yourself.

                Be well

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