On intuition and false prophets
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Hello FreedomStands,
You deny the existence of jinn, you deny the Earth is round, you do not perform salat, you suggest I am a follower of Iblis, you don't fast and you mock the fasting people (with that funny Ramadan Mubarak joke for example).
I deny the existence of the supernatural jinn, I do not do salat, I do not fast too. Am I a kafar?
I am the follower of Iblis for stating that "All is from God" as the Qur'an says to say? I'm the follower of Iblis for saying that God controls everything, good and evil?
All is from the Rabb or sustained/upheld by the Rabb, but we are responsible for our own thoughts and thinking. But it was the Rabb that created these human bodies so if we do things instinctive and are clouded by our bodies then in a way it was because of the Rabb, but it is our fault giving in to that trap.
You cannot however not follow something that does not exist. Neither Ebless nor Shaytaan are any animate beings. Ebless is just used as an ordinary word in the text. Shaytaan refers to one's instinctive drive.
Be well
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Peace brother,
If you understand alQuraan/alKitaab in translations/interpretations you will end up with such understandings as quoted above.
Where is the power mentioned in that aayat? Does izzat means power? Please check Arabic and multiple translations before saying any lie on Allah.May Allah increase our knowledge and guide us on His path pr
mmKhanSo its a lie that we operate by Allah's power and that "All is from God"?
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Hello FreedomStands,
I deny the existence of the supernatural jinn, I do not do salat, I do not fast too. Am I a kafar?
All is from the Rabb or sustained/upheld by the Rabb, but we are responsible for our own thoughts and thinking. But it was the Rabb that created these human bodies so if we do things instinctive and are clouded by our bodies then in a way it was because of the Rabb, but it is our fault giving in to that trap.
You cannot however not follow something that does not exist. Neither Ebless nor Shaytaan are any animate beings. Ebless is just used as an ordinary word in the text. Shaytaan refers to one's instinctive drive.
Be well
By the mainstream Muslim standards you are not meeting the qualifications of a Muslim which are generally those 5 pillars they usually talk about at the very least, according to them.
Besides the Hadith, generally the mainstream Muslims believe the following
- The Qur'an is the word of God, sent in Arabic, inspired in Muhammed through Gabriel.
- That there are angels, generally believed to be winged beings who can take human forms and are the servants of God.
- That there are the jinn, who are some kind of creature that are not angels or humans.
- That there is paradise and hellfire, that the paradise is a place of Earthy pleasures and the hellfire is a place of physical torment through fire and other tortures.
- That the prophets were good people who said and did good things and were sincere and kindly.
- That there were many prophets sent to a variety of civilizations throughout time and that Islam was the only religion promoted by them (and generally imagined to be something similar to the Islam practiced today by the mainstream Muslims which included worship and monotheism).
- That there is only one God, who is not a human.
- Standard worship 5 times a day.
- Fasting every day for a whole month (Ramadan).
- Going to Hajj and performing many of the usual rituals.
- That Iblis was a Jinn who is now called Shaitan but that there are other evil adversaries among the humans and the jinn.
and stuff like that. People who don't believe in or follow most of those practices are not considered Muslims by the mainstream or maybe by others who consider themselves Muslims.
I'm mainly only disqualified by extremist kinds of Muslims and maybe some others by thinking many parts of the Hadith are blasphemous but generally I get around too much trouble by stating what the Hadiths are historically.
I don't follow many of the Hadith rulings like keeping a beard or whatever, but for centuries this was not common in the Muslim world anyway since Turks for example traditionally kept mustaches without beards sometimes and a variety of fashions.
I do qualify as a mainstream Muslim though pretty much by most standards besides those who think Islam requires a beard or whatever.
I think you're on a spiritual journey of discovery as you continue to learn and translate the Qur'an with your method and things like that.
The physical exercises or expression (practiced by the Jesuit Order even) is one of the main things that "feels" if anything like it might be a missing component that differentiates a philosophy from a religious practice maybe.
Did you see those videos I showed somewhere that had the Buddhist, Sikh, and Mormon talk about the way they pray?
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I rather disqualify as a muslim than live a life in lies. Peer pressure is one's downfall.
Be well
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I rather disqualify as a muslim than live a life in lies. Peer pressure is one's downfall.
Be well
True no matter what, since if one is good merely because others around them are good it doesn't mean they are actually a good person (placed in different conditions they might freely do evil if there are others around them who are supporters), and if its peer pressure to do bad that wins out, then that is obviously bad too.
I disqualify in the eyes of many people as many things, and maybe qualify as many things too, but the eyes of people are crossed worse than a Siamese cat or Barbara Streisand, so it doesn't matter much anyway.
At the end of the day, I want to be safe, secure, healthy, happy, powerful, protected, free, untroubled, humorous, beautiful, serene, and satisfied.
I try to achieve that in the immediate, and in all experiences, and so my mind thinks of how that isn't being achieved perhaps and how to achieve it; what I call "Strategies".
What are the causes of suffering, how can they be alleviated without the elimination of experience.
What makes me happy truly and lastingly, how shall I go about achieving that sensation.
What really satisfies me, how to achieve longer lasting satisfaction.
If a person's mind starts operating and problem solving about these greater issues in life, perhaps they will accomplish something for their own pleasure and benefit while they have time.
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Salute @M0F.
... Ebless is just used as an ordinary word in the text. Shaytaan refers to one's instinctive drive.
The above is your personal understanding (not mine).
That said, I've got a question for you.
Who's to blame for the degrading "fruit" between your legs?
Is it
G-D?
Adem & his mate?
Something else? (identify)SLM
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It is my understanding yes.
What is the point with your question? Rhetoric?
Be well
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It is my understanding yes.
Good.
You're entitled to your own view/opinion/understanding, as I am.
What is the point with your question? Rhetoric?
You're dodging!
To figure out the motive behind my question, you'll have to actually answer it first.
Or is my question just too stupid to be answered?Be well
Be well as well.
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Honestly I did not understand your elusive question.
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Unfortunately it needs clarification before I can choose an alternative.
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If you meant the seeds of the individual which are used to initiate life then it is themselves who grow out of those seeds that are responsible for becoming bad fruit.
Number 3.
Be well
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Honestly I did not understand your elusive question.
Unfortunately it needs clarification before I can choose an alternative.
The question is crystal clear, short and straightforward!
What's elusive is your answer @M0F.If you meant the seeds of the individual which are used to initiate life then it is themselves who grow out of those seeds that are responsible for becoming bad fruit. Number 3.
Actually, by "fruit" I meant the subversive "organ" between your legs.
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Sorry. The question is not crystal clear. What is "degrading fruit" between your legs in the first place as a term which is the elusive about it.
If it refers to the aging of the private parts then it is the Rabb who put the contradiction that way.
Be well
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I give two answers this time and perchance one is right.
If you meant the creation of that organ then it is on the Rabb.
If you meant what one does with it then it is the person in possession of it.
I think I know what your hidden purpose was with the question however. That is why create the human body with a procreation functionality if it was not meant to be used.
The Rabb put this scenario in motion and made it so that the people procreate through copulation. The Rabb also made the sensation pleasant that many people forget themselves that they may indulge and take pleasure in living. Unless no one procreated anymore the species would end their cycles.
The instinct of copulation is one of the hardest to control because it has the strongest drive since it is involuntary. No wonder why it is on the list of 'Ten Commandments ' about illicit sex.
Taking care of children is a great responsibility.
One can reproduce children however without it being triggered by fleshly desire by simply decide to have children through the spirit. Anyway, the point is not to think too much using the body's animalistic nature. The body's animalistic nature is the beast generally called 666.
Our greatest enemy is ourselves or the one part of us that is the "outer layer". The body and the world was created in order to deceive.
Be well
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I give two answers this time and perchance one is right.
If you meant the creation of that organ then it is on the Rabb.
If you meant what one does with it then it is the person in possession of it.
I meant Luxuria.
Nevermind the question tho!
I think I know what your hidden purpose was with the question however ...
No, you don't @M0F.
But, thanks for the input.
That is why create the human body with a procreation functionality if it was not meant to be used.
The Rabb put this scenario in motion and made it so that the people procreate through copulation. The Rabb also made the sensation pleasant that many people forget themselves that they may indulge and take pleasure in living. Unless no one procreated anymore the species would end their cycles.
The instinct of copulation is one of the hardest to control because it has the strongest drive since it is involuntary. No wonder why it is on the list of 'Ten Commandments ' about illicit sex.
Taking care of children is a great responsibility.
One can reproduce children however without it being triggered by fleshly desire by simply decide to have children through the spirit. Anyway, the point is not to think too much using the body's animalistic nature. The body's animalistic nature is the beast generally called 666.
Our greatest enemy is ourselves or the one part of us that is the "outer layer". The body and the world was created in order to deceive.
If it refers to the aging of the private parts then it is the Rabb who put the contradiction that way.
If you meant the seeds of the individual which are used to initiate life then it is themselves who grow out of those seeds that are responsible for becoming bad fruit. Number 3.
SLM
Yet you're the good friend of "G-D" apparently,
that you have some private lessons from such which tell you that I'm a follower of Iblis?Yep.
G-D's faction shall triumph.
I worship the Lord of Devils, the Ruler of Evil, the Greatest and Mightiest Satan (Adversary) that can be, the one that can not be defeated, IT IS n't IBLIS.
Of course you do!
"Satan" ain't no Excellent Attribute of G-D! Exalted is The Transcendent ONE above your mooing.
Correct me in my religion if there is a problem and you have any compassion.
G-D has no "religion"!
You, however, do.
See!
I do have compassion.
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No, you don't @M0F.
But, thanks for the input.
Ok. I did not.
But I do also not agree with your cooked story in http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9607082.msg366109#msg366109
It was not particularly clear as you claimed regarding your question. But since neither Shaytaan nor Ebless exist as persons it is none other than the Rabb who is responsible for the organ in the lower parts.
Be well
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But I do also not agree with your cooked story in http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9607082.msg366109#msg366109
I don't expect you to agree with my old input @M0F!
Never asked you to!Still, you can't deny Luxuria !
Nor the degrading "fruit" between your legs, for that matter.Adamites are born debased. In a debased world ... Welcome to the Lower Life.
since neither Shaytaan nor Ebless exist as persons it is none other than the Rabb who is responsible for the organ in the lower parts.
So, you blame G-D for having Lust?
Ps. you keep parroting "Rabb" this "Rabb" that!
What does Quranic RB mean in English @M0F!? -
I don't expect you to agree with my old input @M0F!
Never asked you to!Still, you can't deny Luxuria !
Nor the degrading "fruit" between your legs, for that matter.Adamites are born debased. In a debased world ... Welcome to the Lower Life.
"Adamites" are born to participate in a test being deceived by the body they have been attached to. The body does not belong to them and they are to become a mirror soul of the Sustainer under the harshest of environments. The Sustainer will harvest the good fruit. Satan does not exist as a person and there was never any temptation exposed on Adam. The temptation is ongoing and that is the world which is part of some test environment.
So, you blame G-D for having Lust!?
No, not really, I understand that some environmental measures had to be taken to produce the very best harvest since only the really good seeds grow into something worth reaping.
The body is a trap, Mr. Hicham. It was meant to deceive. It is only that people need to understand this fact to save themselves out of Gehennom.
Ps. you keep parroting "Rabb" this "Rabb" that!
What does Quranic "RB" mean in English @M0F!?Please excuse me. It was corrected in this post. I wrote the English equivalent.
Be well
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Salute @M0F!
"Adamites" are born to participate in a test ...
Of course our (finite) existence on earth is a test!
What the people wish to know is why are we being tested in the first place.
... there was never any temptation exposed on Adam.
Quran (720 and/or 20120) says otherwise!
... The body is a trap, Mr. Hicham.
It was meant to deceive. It is only that people need to understand this fact to save themselves out of Gehennom.I beg to differ.
To me, the body is not a "trap," nor the "enemy"!
My body is a vehicle/apparatus (assigned to me, a "spermatozoid," to use) ...
Please excuse me. It was corrected in this post. I wrote the English equivalent.
To my knowledge, Quranic RB () doesn't mean "sustainer" ,
but Master, Chief, or simply Superior .SLM