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    mmkhan
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    Salute @mmkhan.

    Here's my current understanding (of the Quranic passage in question)

    1. Those who are ill or on a journey and thus can't afford to fast, are instructed/allowed to fast during another time.
    2. Those who are ill or on a journey and can't afford to fast, are encouraged to feed a homeless person (by paying a ransom) if they can afford it.

    SLM

    Salaam brother,

    Thank you for sharing your understanding.
    I think at the moment I will be with my understanding, inshaAllah. )

    May Allah increase our knowledge and guide us on His path pr
    mmKhan

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      hicham9
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      Salaam brother,

      Thank you for sharing your understanding.
      I think at the moment I will be with my understanding, inshaAllah. )

      Of course, my brother! )

      Though, at the end, what matters is what the Author intended.

      Be sound.

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        mmkhan
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        Of course, my brother!

        Though, at the end, what matters is what the Author intended.

        Be sound.

        Salaam brother,

        Saah! I agree handshake

        May Allah shower His blessing upon you and your family pr
        mmKhan

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          FreedomStands
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          Salaam brother,

          Saah! I agree handshake

          May Allah shower His blessing upon you and your family pr
          mmKhan

          In what way(s) are you two brothers?

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            hicham9
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            In what way(s) are you two brothers?

            1st we share a common Ancestor. Both of us are Adamites .

            2nd we share a common Guide, the Quran, according to which we are brethren .

            3rd
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              FreedomStands
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              1st ? we share a common Ancestor. Both of us are Adamites .

              2nd ? we share a common Guide, the Quran, according to which we are brethren .

              3rd ?
              .

              Good answers. Yet if two people differ in their religion, are they really brothers? They may share the same ancestor, but they might be worlds apart.

              I think that you and mm probably share a relatively similar religion though.

              I would dread being a brother to one in deep error though, except for the genetic ties of course.

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                FreedomStands
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                Incredible boldness and a doting God seem to go hand in hand.

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                  hicham9
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                  How come you don't want us to address each other as brethren!?

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                    FreedomStands
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                    How come you don't want us to address each other as brethren!?

                    Well it is in the same nature as my being slightly annoyed by all the insincere seeming "peace, peace" and well wishing followed by insults. You guys didn't do that to each other maybe as far as I've read but I mean in other cases. I just noticed "brother" being thrown about lots suddenly, and I wonder about the sincerity in such statements.

                    Many of you I consider defilers and corrupt, like promoting to each other the abandonment of formal worship and other things, or lying to each other, sometimes with "plausible discourse" or "fancy words" as the Qur'an mentions some people doing. The intentions may be good, but nevertheless, an enemy to me is someone who knowingly or unknowingly is set about in a harmful manner, spreading harmful things.

                    In that respect, I find that I have no well wishes for evildoers, nor do I really consider them my brethren, as they seem more akin to Satan and of his ilk instead (who they often don't even believe in).

                    Even so, I would likely offer kindness and things to them, as I do to possibly worse disbelievers and corrupt people in my daily life (just the general availability of whoever is around).

                    Though, overtly evil people are perhaps not even as evil as the "hypocrites" according to the mainstream interpretations of the Qur'an, who receive the worst penalty of them all. I define "hypocrite" in the Qur'anic usage as those who claim to be Muslim but actually are not (and this may include people who still think they are, but spread lies and corruption or try to turn people away from prayers in a genuine effort). For them is deemed the worst punishment of all.

                    In my case, wishing people peace would simply be a lie. I do wish that people would listen to me, but like some of the Prophets seemed to have, there is quite a bit of malice I have towards rude and evil people and I don't really wish anything good for them, in fact I hate them quite a bit and wish for their utter demise if they don't repent (kind of like how God might intend perhaps?).

                    So I don't mind you two calling each other brothers or wishing peace on each other, though I often find it rather insincere and mechanical on this website in many cases, and it may be that you two really are brothers in more ways than one, and may be sharing a similar home in the afterlife, be it good or bad.

                    The real estate options are generally limited though, Hellfire or Paradise.

                    I don't do much that anyone could really claim that hellfire is my destiny, though I have no guarantee of paradise either really and God is all powerful and I may be deeply astray in all my actions and demonstrations of compassion and charity and worship.

                    Yet in the case of you guys, like I mentioned, you've left off the prayers and many other things, and even go so far as promoting the leaving off of such things, then to top it off are often quite rude, even to people like myself, and its possible the list of crimes continue, and then to top it off may be adding with insincere calls of peace and brotherhood while making mischief, even inadvertently.

                    So of course, I don't know if hell is your destiny or mine, and we're all working for what we are working for, but I think you would be better off following me than where your own thinking has taken you so far.

                    Of course, that will likely be a request denied, and may or may not to be denied to your own detriment.

                    Perhaps a better greeting may be, "May hell be the home of all evilness" or something.

                    "Hi"

                    "May hell be the home of all evilness, how are you?"

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                      mmkhan
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                      In what way(s) are you two brothers?

                      Peace brother,

                      Does not even need that to become brothers.

                      Please take a look at 765, 773, 785 and also 3103 .

                      May Allah increase our knowledge and guide us on His path pr
                      mmKhan

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                        Well it is in the same nature as my being slightly annoyed by all the insincere seeming "peace, peace" and well wishing followed by insults. You guys didn't do that to each other maybe as far as I've read but I mean in other cases. I just noticed "brother" being thrown about lots suddenly, and I wonder about the sincerity in such statements.

                        Many of you I consider defilers and corrupt, like promoting to each other the abandonment of formal worship and other things, or lying to each other, sometimes with "plausible discourse" or "fancy words" as the Qur'an mentions some people doing. The intentions may be good, but nevertheless, an enemy to me is someone who knowingly or unknowingly is set about in a harmful manner, spreading harmful things.

                        In that respect, I find that I have no well wishes for evildoers, nor do I really consider them my brethren, as they seem more akin to Satan and of his ilk instead (who they often don't even believe in).

                        Even so, I would likely offer kindness and things to them, as I do to possibly worse disbelievers and corrupt people in my daily life (just the general availability of whoever is around).

                        Though, overtly evil people are perhaps not even as evil as the "hypocrites" according to the mainstream interpretations of the Qur'an, who receive the worst penalty of them all. I define "hypocrite" in the Qur'anic usage as those who claim to be Muslim but actually are not (and this may include people who still think they are, but spread lies and corruption or try to turn people away from prayers in a genuine effort). For them is deemed the worst punishment of all.

                        In my case, wishing people peace would simply be a lie. I do wish that people would listen to me, but like some of the Prophets seemed to have, there is quite a bit of malice I have towards rude and evil people and I don't really wish anything good for them, in fact I hate them quite a bit and wish for their utter demise if they don't repent (kind of like how God might intend perhaps?).

                        So I don't mind you two calling each other brothers or wishing peace on each other, though I often find it rather insincere and mechanical on this website in many cases, and it may be that you two really are brothers in more ways than one, and may be sharing a similar home in the afterlife, be it good or bad.

                        The real estate options are generally limited though, Hellfire or Paradise.

                        I don't do much that anyone could really claim that hellfire is my destiny, though I have no guarantee of paradise either really and God is all powerful and I may be deeply astray in all my actions and demonstrations of compassion and charity and worship.

                        Yet in the case of you guys, like I mentioned, you've left off the prayers and many other things, and even go so far as promoting the leaving off of such things, then to top it off are often quite rude, even to people like myself, and its possible the list of crimes continue, and then to top it off may be adding with insincere calls of peace and brotherhood while making mischief, even inadvertently.

                        So of course, I don't know if hell is your destiny or mine, and we're all working for what we are working for, but I think you would be better off following me than where your own thinking has taken you so far.

                        Of course, that will likely be a request denied, and may or may not to be denied to your own detriment.

                        Perhaps a better greeting may be, "May hell be the home of all evilness" or something.

                        "Hi"

                        "May hell be the home of all evilness, how are you?"

                        Peace brother,

                        It is better for you to look for yourself instead of looking others. You have to answer for your deeds and others have to answer for their. Only Allah is the Knowledgeable of all, seen or unseen and what is in our hearts. We cannot be a judge for others. So, better to look for ourselves instead.

                        BTW to just let you know I still do prayer and I feel that it is a burden on me because of my not 100% clean account with Allah. And I think at least I have crossed the way long back where you are now, so better just follow whatever Allah has guided you to. And I did the same and still doing, alhamduliAllah. I can't say about others, my Lord, Allah knows better about them.

                        About saying brother, please check my post earlier to this and regarding peace, salaam or salute, please check 654. For me you are a still believer until you believe in Allah.

                        May Allah increase our knowledge and guide us on His path pr
                        mmKhan

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                          FreedomStands
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                          Peace brother,

                          It is better for you to look for yourself instead of looking others. You have to answer for your deeds and others have to answer for their. Only Allah is the Knowledgeable of all, seen or unseen and what is in our hearts. We cannot be a judge for others. So, better to look for ourselves instead.

                          BTW to just let you know I still do prayer and I feel that it is a burden on me because of my not 100% clean account with Allah. And I think at least I have crossed the way long back where you are now, so better just follow whatever Allah has guided you to. And I did the same and still doing, alhamduliAllah. I can't say about others, my Lord, Allah knows better about them.

                          About saying brother, please check my post earlier to this and regarding peace, salaam or salute, please check 654. For me you are a still believer until you believe in Allah.

                          May Allah increase our knowledge and guide us on His path pr
                          mmKhan

                          Thank you. Here is something about "judging" I just linked to a moment ago somewhere else, maybe it has something interesting in it

                          http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9607188.msg362968#msg362968

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                            Man_of_Faith
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                            Fasting from this world one should do all the time. This is better for them.

                            Be well

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