READ & POST PLZ:What do you think, in detail, of the following verses and ideas?

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Biblical version for those interested

Please read all of the following, from the bottom up if you will. It clearly shows that God is the one doing it all, all of it is from God, nothing at all is not God's doing, nothing at all is not caused by God, God is doing every single bit of it, even if a person imagines it is themselves it is really God doing it. These verses demonstrate that. You will see it is God who makes people believe, God who makes people disbelieve, God who deforms people, God who burns them, God is responsible for all bad things, God is responsible for all good things, God is the one doing every single aspect, everything that happens is what God is doing, if a person believes and does good it is by God alone making them do it, and if God hardens a person they can never believe, God sends all our thoughts, all delusions, everything is from God alone. Everything means everything (it does not mean some things, or exclude some things like your thoughts or your will or your decisions or your actions, it means everything absolutely), even your so-called will, even your thoughts are manipulated and at the mercy of God, your life, your death, your conduct, every single thing and I have shown you here many verses confirming this from just this Scripture, all the other scriptures also say this. Please read the following completely and with an open mind to make sure your theology falls into place with the scripture, it will give you a scarier and greater realization of what is happening and make you a better devotee of God I think if you are allowed to understand it

2 Corinthians 121
Now it is God who makes both us and you stand firm in Christ. He anointed us,
1 Corinthians 18
He will also keep you firm to the end, so that you will be blameless on the day of our Lord Jesus Christ.
Matthew 44
Jesus answered, "It is written 'Man shall not live on bread alone, but on every word that comes from the mouth of God.'"
Exodus 411
The LORD said to him, "Who gave human beings their mouths? Who makes them deaf or mute? Who gives them sight or makes them blind? Is it not I, the LORD?
Romans 919
Well then, you might say, "Why does God blame people for not responding? Haven't they simply done what he makes them do?"
Job 912
If he snatches away, who can stop him? Who can say to him, 'What are you doing?'
Daniel 435
All the peoples of the earth are regarded as nothing. He does as he pleases with the powers of heaven and the peoples of the earth. No one can hold back his hand or say to him "What have you done?"
2 Thessalonians 211
For this reason God sends them a powerful delusion so that they will believe the lie
Judges 923
God stirred up animosity between Abimelek and the citizens of Shechem so that they acted treacherously against Abimelek.
Ezekiel 149
"'And if a prophet is deceived into giving a message, it is because I, the LORD, have deceived that prophet. I will lift my fist against such prophets and cut them off from the community of Israel.
1 Kings 2223
"So now the LORD has put a deceiving spirit
2 Chronicles 1822
"So now the LORD has put a deceiving spirit in the mouths of these prophets of yours. The LORD has decreed disaster for you."
Isaiah 4513
I will raise up Cyrus in my righteousness I will make all his ways straight. He will rebuild my city and set my exiles free, but not for a price or reward, says the LORD Almighty."
Isaiah 4611
From the east I summon a bird of prey; from a far-off land, a man to fulfill my purpose. What I have said, that I will bring about; what I have planned, that I will do.
Isaiah 4815
I, even I, have spoken; yes, I have called him. I will bring him, and he will succeed in his mission.
Lamentations 115
"The Lord has rejected all the warriors in my midst; he has summoned an army against me to crush my young men. In his winepress the Lord has trampled Virgin Daughter Judah.
Romans 124
For this reason, God delivered them to sexual impurity as they followed the lusts of their hearts and dishonored their bodies with one another.
Romans 126
This is why God delivered them over to degrading passions. For even their females exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones.
Romans 128
And because they did not think it worthwhile to acknowledge God, God delivered them over to a worthless mind to do what is morally wrong.
Job 2316
"It is God who has made my heart faint, And the Almighty who has dismayed me,
Isaiah 457
The One forming light and creating darkness, Causing well-being/good/benefit/prosperity and creating calamity/evil/harm/disaster; I am the LORD who does all these.
2 Kings 1925
"'Have you not heard? Long ago I ordained it. In days of old I planned it; now I have brought it to pass, that you have turned fortified cities into piles of stone.
Isaiah 4711
Disaster will come upon you, and you will not know how to conjure it away. A calamity will fall upon you that you cannot ward off with a ransom; a catastrophe you cannot foresee will suddenly come upon you.
Lamentations 338
Is it not from the mouth of the Most High that both calamities and good things come?
Nehemiah 75
So my God put it into my heart to assemble the nobles, the officials and the common people for registration by families. I found the genealogical record of those who had been the first to return. This is what I found written there
Proverbs 26
For the LORD gives wisdom; from his mouth come knowledge and understanding.
2 Corinthians 816
Thanks be to God, who put into the heart of Titus the same concern I have for you.
2 Corinthians 214
But thanks be to God, who always leads us as captives in Christ's triumphal procession and uses us to spread the aroma of the knowledge of him everywhere.
Revelation 1717
For God has put it into their hearts to accomplish his purpose by agreeing to hand over to the beast their royal authority, until God's words are fulfilled.
Proverbs 164
The LORD works out everything to its proper end-- even the wicked for a day of disaster.
Ecclesiastes 713
Consider what God has done Who can straighten what he has made crooked?
Ezra 727
Blessed be the LORD, the God of our fathers, who put such a thing as this into the heart of the king, to beautify the house of the LORD that is in Jerusalem,
Exodus 362
And Moses called Bezaleel and Aholiab, and every wise hearted man, in whose heart the LORD had put wisdom, even every one whose heart stirred him up to come unto the work to do it
Isaiah 498
This is what the LORD says "In the time of my favor I will answer you, and in the day of salvation I will help you; I will keep you and will make you to be a covenant for the people, to restore the land and to reassign its desolate inheritances,
Isaiah 659
I will bring forth descendants from Jacob, and from Judah those who will possess my mountains; my chosen people will inherit them, and there will my servants live.
Ezekiel 3626
I will give you a new heart and put a new spirit in you; I will remove from you your heart of stone and give you a heart of flesh.
Job 210
He replied, "You are talking like a foolish woman. Shall we accept good from God, and not trouble?" In all this, Job did not sin in what he said.
Jeremiah 3242
"This is what the LORD says As I have brought all this great calamity on this people, so I will give them all the prosperity I have promised them.
Psalm 399
I was silent; I would not open my mouth, for you are the one who has done this.
Ecclesiastes 714
When times are good, be happy; but when times are bad, consider this God has made the one as well as the other. Therefore, no one can discover anything about their future.
(God can do whatever God wills to do and is bound by nothing, not time, nor promises, nor justice, nor love, totally the only Free-Mind and Will to Power)
1 Kings 1114
Then the LORD raised up against Solomon an adversary, Hadad the Edomite, from the royal line of Edom.
1 Kings 1123
And God raised up against Solomon another adversary, Rezon son of Eliada, who had fled from his master, Hadadezer king of Zobah.
Ezra 15
Then God stirred the hearts of the priests and Levites and the leaders of the tribes of Judah and Benjamin to go to Jerusalem to rebuild the Temple of the LORD.
Haggai 114
So the LORD stirred up the spirit of Zerubbabel son of Shealtiel, governor of Judah, and the spirit of Joshua son of Jozadak, the high priest, and the spirit of the whole remnant of the people. They came and began to work on the house of the LORD Almighty, their God,
Isaiah 412
"Who has stirred up one from the east, calling him in righteousness to his service? He hands nations over to him and subdues kings before him. He turns them to dust with his sword, to windblown chaff with his bow.
Romans 920
But who are you, a human being, to talk back to God? "Shall what is formed say to the one who formed it, 'Why did you make me like this?'"
Isaiah 459
"Woe to those who quarrel with their Maker, those who are nothing but potsherds among the potsherds on the ground. Does the clay say to the potter, 'What are you making?' Does your work say, 'The potter has no hands'?
Isaiah 648
Yet you, LORD, are our Father. We are the clay, you are the potter; we are all the work of your hand.
Jeremiah 186
He said, "Can I not do with you, Israel, as this potter does?" declares the LORD. "Like clay in the hand of the potter, so are you in my hand, Israel.
Romans 921
Does not the potter have the right to make out of the same lump of clay some pottery for special purposes and some for common use?
Romans 144
Who are you to judge someone else's servant? To their own master, servants stand or fall. And they will stand, for the Lord is able to make them stand.
Romans 918
Therefore God has mercy on whom he wants to have mercy, and he hardens whom he wants to harden.
Exodus 421
The LORD said to Moses, "When you return to Egypt, see that you perform before Pharaoh all the wonders I have given you the power to do. But I will harden his heart so that he will not let the people go.
Exodus 73
But I will harden Pharaoh's heart, and though I multiply my signs and wonders in Egypt,
Exodus 912
But the LORD hardened Pharaoh's heart and he would not listen to Moses and Aaron, just as the LORD had said to Moses.
Exodus 101
Then the LORD said to Moses, "Go to Pharaoh, for I have hardened his heart and the hearts of his officials so that I may perform these signs of mine among them
Exodus 1020
But the LORD hardened Pharaoh's heart, and he would not let the Israelites go.
Exodus 1027
But the LORD hardened Pharaoh's heart, and he was not willing to let them go.
Exodus 1110
Moses and Aaron performed all these wonders before Pharaoh, but the LORD hardened Pharaoh's heart, and he would not let the Israelites go out of his country.
Exodus 144
And I will harden Pharaoh's heart, and he will pursue them. But I will gain glory for myself through Pharaoh and all his army, and the Egyptians will know that I am the LORD." So the Israelites did this.
Exodus 1417
I will harden the hearts of the Egyptians so that they will go in after them. And I will gain glory through Pharaoh and all his army, through his chariots and his horsemen.
Deuteronomy 230
But Sihon king of Heshbon refused to let us pass through. For the LORD your God had made his spirit stubborn and his heart obstinate in order to give him into your hands, as he has now done.
Joshua 1120
For it was the LORD himself who hardened their hearts to wage war against Israel, so that he might destroy them totally, exterminating them without mercy, as the LORD had commanded Moses.
John 1240
"He has blinded their eyes and hardened their hearts, so they can neither see with their eyes, nor understand with their hearts, nor turn--and I would heal them."
Romans 916
It does not, therefore, depend on human will or effort, but on God's mercy.
Ephesians 28
For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith-and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God-
Romans 915
For he says to Moses, "I will have mercy on whom I have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I have compassion."
Romans 917
For Scripture says to Pharaoh "I raised you up for this very purpose, that I might display my power in you and that my name might be proclaimed in all the earth."
Exodus 916
But I have raised you up for this very purpose, that I might show my power and that my name might be proclaimed in all the earth.
Jeremiah 1016
But the God of Israel is no idol! He is the Creator of everything that exists, including Israel, his own special possession. The LORD of Heaven's Armies is his name!
Jeremiah 5119
But the God of Israel is no idol! He is the Creator of everything that exists, including his people, his own special possession. The LORD of Heaven's Armies is his name!
Acts 424
When they heard this, they raised their voices together in prayer to God. "Sovereign Lord," they said, "you made the heavens and the earth and the sea, and everything in them.
Nehemiah 96
You alone are the LORD. You made the heavens, even the highest heavens, and all their starry host, the earth and all that is on it, the seas and all that is in them. You give life to everything, and the multitudes of heaven worship you.
Acts 1415
"Friends, why are you doing this? We too are only human, like you. We are bringing you good news, telling you to turn from these worthless things to the living God, who made the heavens and the earth and the sea and everything in them. (Everything, means Everything, even your thoughts whenever you have them, there is nothing that anyone creates, only God creates and everything whatsoever is the creation of God Only, you are not a partner in creation, nor do you choose anything, you do nothing, God does everything, even whatever you do is only God's creation, will, and power)
Revelation 106
And he swore by him who lives for ever and ever, who created the heavens and all that is in them, the earth and all that is in it, and the sea and all that is in it, and said, "There will be no more delay!
Isaiah 4424
"This is what the LORD says-- your Redeemer, who formed you in the womb I am the LORD, the Maker of all things, who stretches out the heavens, who spreads out the earth by myself,
Isaiah 4314
This is what the LORD says-- your Redeemer, the Holy One of Israel "For your sake I will send to Babylon and bring down as fugitives all the Babylonians, in the ships in which they took pride.
Zechariah 121
A prophecy The word of the LORD concerning Israel. The LORD, who stretches out the heavens, who lays the foundation of the earth, and who forms the human spirit within a person, declares
Isaiah 4424
This is what the LORD says--your Redeemer and Creator "I am the LORD, who made all things. I alone stretched out the heavens. Who was helping me when I made the earth?
Isaiah 4518
For this is what the LORD says-- he who created the heavens, he is God; he who fashioned and made the earth, he founded it; he did not create it to be empty, but formed it to be inhabited-- he says "I am the LORD, and there is no other.
Proverbs 305
Every word of God proves (makes manifest) true. He is a shield to all who come to him for protection
Deuteronomy 83
Yes, he humbled you by making you go hungry and then feeding you with manna, a food previously unknown to you and your ancestors. He did it to teach you that people do not live by bread alone; rather, we live by every word that comes from the mouth of the LORD.
Romans 830
And those he predestined, he also called; those he called, he also justified; those he justified, he also glorified.
1 Corinthians 27
but we speak God's wisdom in a mystery, the hidden wisdom which God predestined before the ages to our glory;
Isaiah 2612
LORD, you establish peace for us; all that we have accomplished you have done for us.
Isaiah 251
O LORD, you are my God! I will exalt you in praise, I will extol your fame. For you have done extraordinary things, and executed plans made long ago exactly as you decreed.
Psalm 405
Many, LORD my God, are the wonders you have done, the things you planned for us. Nothing can compare with you; were I to speak and tell of your deeds, they would be too many to declare.
Ephesians 111
In him we were also chosen, having been predestined according to the plan of him who works out everything in conformity with the purpose of his will,
Ephesians 15
he predestined us for adoption to sonship through Jesus Christ, in accordance with his pleasure and will--
Philippians 213
for it is God who works in you to will and to act in order to fulfill his good purpose.
Romans 814
For those who are led by the Spirit of God are the children of God.
Jeremiah 152
And if they ask you, 'Where shall we go?' tell them, 'This is what the LORD says "'Those destined for death, to death; those for the sword, to the sword; those for starvation, to starvation; those for captivity, to captivity.'
Jeremiah 164
"They will die of deadly diseases. They will not be mourned or buried but will be like dung lying on the ground. They will perish by sword and famine, and their dead bodies will become food for the birds and the wild animals."
Jeremiah 2410
I will send the sword, famine and plague against them until they are destroyed from the land I gave to them and their ancestors.'"
Jeremiah 4311
He will come and attack Egypt, bringing death to those destined for death, captivity to those destined for captivity, and the sword to those destined for the sword.
Ezekiel 512
A third of your people will die of the plague or perish by famine inside you; a third will fall by the sword outside your walls; and a third I will scatter to the winds and pursue with drawn sword.
Ezekiel 1211
Say to them, 'I am a sign to you.' "As I have done, so it will be done to them. They will go into exile as captives.
Ezekiel 3327
"Say this to them 'This is what the Sovereign LORD says As surely as I live, those who are left in the ruins will fall by the sword, those out in the country I will give to the wild animals to be devoured, and those in strongholds and caves will die of a plague.
Zechariah 119
So I said, ?I will not be your shepherd. What is to die, let it die. What is to be destroyed, let it be destroyed. And let those who are left devour the flesh of one another.?
Revelation 1310
Anyone who is destined for prison will be taken to prison. Anyone destined to die by the sword will die by the sword. This means that God's holy people must endure persecution patiently and remain faithful.
Isaiah 485
Therefore I told you these things long ago; before they happened I announced them to you so that you could not say, 'My images brought them about; my wooden image and metal god ordained them.'
Isaiah 448
Do not tremble, do not be afraid. Did I not proclaim this and foretell it long ago? You are my witnesses. Is there any God besides me? No, there is no other Rock/Stable Thing; I know not one."
Job 122
In all this, Job did not sin by charging God with wrongdoing.
Job 1910
He tears me down on every side till I am gone; he uproots my hope like a tree.
Job 1214
What he tears down cannot be rebuilt; those he imprisons cannot be released.
Job 377
So that everyone he has made may know his work, he stops all people from their labor.
Job 1215
If he holds back the waters, there is drought; if he lets them loose, they devastate the land.
Job 1216
To him belong strength and insight; both deceived and deceiver are his.
Job 1217
He leads rulers away stripped and makes fools of judges.
Job 1219
He leads priests away stripped and overthrows officials long established.
Job 1220
He silences the lips of trusted advisers and takes away the discernment of elders.
Job 174
You have closed their minds to understanding; therefore you will not let them triumph.
Job 1222
He reveals the deep things of darkness and brings utter darkness into the light.
Job 1223
He makes nations great, and destroys them; he enlarges nations, and disperses them.
Job 1224
He deprives the leaders of the earth of their reason; he makes them wander in a trackless waste.
Job 1225
They grope in darkness with no light; he makes them stagger like drunkards.
Job 3836
Who gives the ibis wisdom or gives the rooster understanding?
Job 3839
"Do you hunt the prey for the lioness and satisfy the hunger of the lions
Job 3841
Who provides food for the raven when its young cry out to God and wander about for lack of food?
Job 3917
for God did not endow her with wisdom or give her a share of good sense.
Job 3926
"Does the hawk take flight by your wisdom and spread its wings toward the south?
Job 3927
Does the eagle soar at your command and build its nest on high?
Job 4014
Then I myself will admit to you that your own right hand can save you.
Job 4111
Who has a claim against me that I must pay? Everything under heaven belongs to me.
Romans 1135
"Who has ever given to God, that God should repay them?"
1 Corinthians 1026
for, "The earth is the Lord's, and everything in it."
Deuteronomy 1014
To the LORD your God belong the heavens, even the highest heavens, the earth and everything in it.
Job 95
He moves mountains without their knowing it and overturns them in his anger.
Job 422
"I know that you can do all things; no purpose of yours can be thwarted.
Job 423
You asked, 'Who is this that obscures my plans without knowledge?' Surely I spoke of things I did not understand, things too wonderful for me to know.
Job 427
After the LORD had said these things to Job, he said to Eliphaz the Temanite, "I am angry with you and your two friends, because you have not spoken the truth about me, as my servant Job has.
Job 428
So now take seven bulls and seven rams and go to my servant Job and sacrifice a burnt offering for yourselves. My servant Job will pray for you, and I will accept his prayer and not deal with you according to your folly. You have not spoken the truth about me, as my servant Job has."

God does everything, and if you read Job you will understand that as well. God is the tormentor, the cause of disease, the deceived and the deceiver are his doing, he is the cause of all delusion, we are at the mercy of God, God can in an instant turn us away and destroy us, and God answers to no authority, God does whatever God wants to do. So please don't ignore the scripture, please understand that there is nothing but God's will in action, you can not do anything, it is God doing it all ultimately.

Job 932
"God is not a mortal like me, so I cannot argue with him or take him to trial.

Job 934
The mediator could make God stop beating me, and I would no longer live in terror of his punishment.

Job 935
Then I could speak to him without fear, but I cannot do that in my own strength.

Job 107
though you know that I am not guilty and that no one can rescue me from your hand?

Job 108
"'You formed me with your hands; you made me, yet now you completely destroy me.

Job 922
It is all the same; that is why I say, 'He destroys both the blameless and the wicked.'?

Some letters do have meanings attached to them based on how they were used as symbols, for example in Greek, Alpha and Omega had meanings associated with them, which were not necessarily "First and Last" exactly, since Alpha was the letter which meant total negation and Omega had its own different meaning

1 A ? alpha, the first letter of the Greek alphabet. 1/a (alpha) is used as a prefix (called its "privative use&quot and typically means "no" or "not" (= "un-," "without&quot.

Its the same as "Subhan" really, meaning The Nothing, the Unlike Anything, Non-Information.

(Its the letter "a" in Greek by the way, so not "Alpha" if you were feeling any urge to start adding A+L+P+H+A and whatever meanings you have associated to each of those letters, it is just "a&quot

Omega, which is just "o" in Greek (not O+M+E+G+A which is just an English transliteration for word referring to the single letter) seems to mean "Unbounded" and "Limitless" and "Infinite" or "Ongoing" or "Endless" or "Continuing Forever" and so "The Not That Is Forever" or "The Nothing that is Everlasting".

"5598 (long , originally formed by pronouncing two short o's/omikrons together, cf. Zodhiates, Dictionary) ? the final letter of the Greek alphabet; (figuratively) God's infinity (endlessness), in contrast to alpha ? the first letter of the Greek alphabet which represents the Lord as the unoriginated originator of all life and all that is eternal.

In the NT, 5598 ("mega&quot is always used of the glorified Christ (Rev 18, 21;6, 2213), referring to His absolute limitlessness to meet all the needs of finite (limited) people."

Thank you for the question!

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Allah is the light of the heavens and the earth; a likeness of His light is as a niche in which is a lamp, the lamp is in a glass, (and) the glass is as it were a brightly shining star, lit from a blessed olive-tree, neither eastern nor western, the oil whereof almost gives light though fire touch it not-- light upon light-- Allah guides to His light whom He pleases, and Allah sets forth parables for men, and Allah is Cognizant of all things.
(Lit is such a Light) in houses, which God hath permitted to be raised to honour; for the celebration, in them, of His name In them is He glorified in the mornings and in the evenings, (again and again),-

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And thus did We reveal to you an inspired book by Our command. You did not know what the Book was, nor (what) the faith (was), but We made it a light, guiding thereby whom We please of Our servants; and most surely you show the way to the right path

Allah is the Light of the Heavens and the Earth. The Qur'an is also called a light. Light is a reference to "that which makes seen" and "that which illuminates" "knowledge" "to make manifest" "to manifest, make seen, make known".

When people think of "light" they think of an object which emits light, like the Sun for example. Even though this is a parable being mentioned and not talking about literal light like that from the sun, which makes things visible, I will point to something in the nature of the similitude

Consider the light. Do you see the light? The light is unseen, it is invisible, it makes things seen though. You are sitting in your room right now, and objects are visible because the light is making them seen, but can you see the light that is filling the room? Light can not be seen, you can only see what it shines upon. Thus too, is Allah like light, unseen but makes his creations visible and "brings them to light" "makes them known" "makes them seen", that is information which Allah makes manifest, yet the light itself, that which makes these things seen, is not visible, just as in your room, the space seems empty between the objects, but the light as it reflects on the surfaces makes them seen.

Light also refers to knowledge, and the term is used in reference to the Qur'an, which is used also to "make things manifest" or "make things known". It is Allah who is the "guidance" and the "light" who "makes things manifest" and "makes things known.

Allah is not made of information, but makes all information, and is the Unseen, just as literal light, which Allah has created, is unseen but can only be known by what it shines upon and the reflection of surfaces. Thus Allah is known through information, as Allah makes it known, but can not be seen directly, and is not an object like the sun that emits physical light and has a location, the sun is a lamp a light emitter, the light itself is not the sun, it is what is not visible directly but only known through how it makes information visible. If the light was given an image, like a solid color, it would blind people entirely and nothing but it could be seen, since it fills the room but is not visible, it is known by its reflection on surfaces.

So in the homes of those who believe, Allah has filled their lives with guidance and help.

So I think the parable was a really good one, though Allah may have misguided many people by it, and made them imagine the Sun or some object, and sent them astray. Yet they don't consider, that even the physical light, it can not be seen, the room looks empty, all that is seen is the surfaces reflecting it. Allah creates all information, Allah manifests all information, Allah makes whatever is visible to us, visible to us, from our thoughts to our deeds, and it is Allah who tells people "what they did" and "were" and "are" and "will Be" as it is Allah who manifests everything.

Amun-Ra (The Unseen, The One Who Makes Manifest)

"If I blasphemed it was God who blasphemed against him/her/itself. What a nice logic.
Salaam"

Yes, if you blasphemed, it was God who created that information and event, and it may be that God wishes by that to also prove your destruction, all these are God's will or not.

2 Chronicles 1822
"So now the LORD has put a deceiving spirit in the mouths of these prophets of yours. The LORD has decreed disaster for you."

Ezekiel 149
"'And if the prophet is enticed to utter a prophecy, I the LORD have enticed that prophet, and I will stretch out my hand against him and destroy him from among my people Israel.

1 Kings 2223
"So now the LORD has put a deceiving spirit in the mouths of all these prophets of yours. The LORD has decreed disaster for you."

Jeremiah 410
Then I said, "Alas, Sovereign LORD! How completely you have deceived this people and Jerusalem by saying, 'You will have peace,' when the sword is at our throats!"

Isaiah 457
I form light and create darkness, I make well-being and create calamity, I am the LORD, who does all these things.
or
Isaiah 457
I form the light, and create darkness I make peace, and create evil I the LORD do all these things.

Deuteronomy 3239
Look now; I myself am he! There is no other god but me! I am the one who kills and gives life; I am the one who wounds and heals; no one can be rescued from my powerful grasp!

Lamentations 338
Is it not from the mouth of the Most High that both calamities and good things come?

Ephesians 15
he predestined us for adoption to sonship through Jesus Christ, in accordance with his pleasure and will--

Deuteronomy 230
But Sihon the king of Heshbon would not let us pass by him, for the LORD your God hardened his spirit and made his heart obstinate, that he might give him into your hand, as he is this day.

Also, all the examples I left here
http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9607120.msg361407#msg361407

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Thy Lord bringeth to pass what He willeth and chooseth. They have never any choice. Glorified be Allah and Exalted above all that they associate!

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But you cannot will it unless God wills for, behold, God is indeed all-seeing, wise.

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But ye shall not will it except as God wills,- the Cherisher of the Worlds.

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Is not Allah sufficient for His servant? And they seek to frighten you with those besides Him; and whomsoever Allah makes err, there is no guide for him. (Not your "logic" not your "reason" Allah can completely fool you, and is fooling you even now, and me too)
And whomever God guides, there is not for him anyone who leads astray. Is not God Almighty, The Possessor of Requital?
(Do you think that someone can come and lead you astray besides Allah alone? Nor can any guide you, save Allah alone)

You have no power, is this what you find hard to accept? You have no power. How can you Surrender if you deem yourself a little god who makes decisions and Allah follows after your decisions and you make Allah do things, you make Allah send you to hell, you make Allah send you to paradise, you make Allah by the deeds you will yourself to do, this or that? You decide where you want to walk? You decide where you want to sleep? If you want to kill someone, it is in your power to kill them?

Man_of_Faith

Why everything is from the Sustainer is because the universe is actually the Sustainer and therefore nothing cannot be from the Sustainer. But it is a living platform and which runs like a game world where the Sustainer lets it be like a simulation without too much interference. Consider it like a video game. You cannot choose everything in a game because the game engine will make certain limitations, but you can still execute game commands like you click the left mouse button in a first-person shooter and then you fire your rifle and kill a man. And it was you who willed to kill the man even though since the Sustainer is sustaining the game world it was the Sustainer's simulation that let you kill the man. But if the Sustainer would write a script that said "IF 'Character X fire weapon, THEN make weapon click" which means the weapon will fail to fire. This is the kind of involvement that the Sustainer has in this world. Anything the Sustainer likes to do against us.

For example, the Administrator (Sustainer) can execute the command "drop dead 'Character X' "heart attack"" and you will get a heart attack and you die.

Since this is a test, the apparent visual involvement of the Sustainer is very subtle even if the Sustainer could just execute the command "Make sky flash intensity 255";"Play sound file volume 60 "I AM YOUR SUSTAINER, BELIEVE ME".

Normally the Sustainer will just let us believe that we are on our own with no involvement of a Great Sustainer and is is like a simulation where we make our choices.

Be well

FreedomStands

Why everything is from the Sustainer is because the universe is actually the Sustainer and therefore nothing cannot be from the Sustainer. But it is a living platform and which runs like a game world where the Sustainer lets it be like a simulation without too much interference. Consider it like a video game. You cannot choose everything in a game because the game engine will make certain limitations, but you can still execute game commands like you click the left mouse button in a first-person shooter and then you fire your rifle and kill a man. And it was you who willed to kill the man even though since the Sustainer is sustaining the game world it was the Sustainer's simulation that let you kill the man. But if the Sustainer would write a script that said "IF 'Character X fire weapon, THEN make weapon click" which means the weapon will fail to fire. This is the kind of involvement that the Sustainer has in this world. Anything the Sustainer likes to do against us.

For example, the Administrator (Sustainer) can execute the command "drop dead 'Character X' "heart attack"" and you will get a heart attack and you die.

Since this is a test, the apparent visual involvement of the Sustainer is very subtle even if the Sustainer could just execute the command "Make sky flash intensity 255";"Play sound file volume 60 "I AM YOUR SUSTAINER, BELIEVE ME".

Normally the Sustainer will just let us believe that we are on our own with no involvement of a Great Sustainer and is is like a simulation where we make our choices.

Be well

Who are we? Who is the player of the game? Who holds the game controller? By what power are the controls pressed?

Man_of_Faith

One player is you who sit in front of your device submitting forum posts.

You are in a virtual world and things happen and occur as according to the programming and narration and story of the game. And on top of that there is an Administrator that can issue commands (will) that you would drop dead instantly if liked. Or inspire you to do something. But the most interesting thing is that the manuscript is written during the simulation so it is never predestined totally although if the manuscript being written simultaneously writes out "Freedomstands dies in a heart attack in violent pain" then it occurs no matter what. However, the manuscript is affected by our actions too and written as a reaction to the events and decisions made, but the Author can "take up the pen" (do not take literally) and intervene with text as a consequence of the action.

The movie "The Frame" gives good insight into how the Sustainer works despite it is a bit fictionized and humorous. I recommend it. It is a psychological thriller with a disturbed depiction of reality. Yet it almost perfectly shows how the Sustainer works and what I explained about the manuscript is being written while it happens, but the Sustainer can type just about anything.

How it works is actually very advanced but nothing is predestined. We think we have control, but we have not above a certain limit. Yet your actions and "triggering" thought was from you and NOT the Sustainer.

Be well

FreedomStands

One player is you who sit in front of your device submitting forum posts.

You are in a virtual world and things happen and occur as according to the programming and narration and story of the game. And on top of that there is an Administrator that can issue commands (will) that you would drop dead instantly if liked. Or inspire you to do something. But the most interesting thing is that the manuscript is written during the simulation so it is never predestined totally although if the manuscript being written simultaneously writes out "Freedomstands dies in a heart attack in violent pain" then it occurs no matter what. However, the manuscript is affected by our actions too and written as a reaction to the events and decisions made, but the Author can "take up the pen" (do not take literally) and intervene with text as a consequence of the action.

The movie "The Frame" gives good insight into how the Sustainer works despite it is a bit fictionized and humorous. I recommend it. It is a psychological thriller with a disturbed depiction of reality. Yet it almost perfectly shows how the Sustainer works and what I explained about the manuscript is being written while it happens, but the Sustainer can type just about anything.

How it works is actually very advanced but nothing is predestined. We think we have control, but we have not above a certain limit. Yet your actions and "triggering" thought was from you and NOT the Sustainer.

Be well

What about the food we eat though, and the chemicals, and the whole apparent chain of events? The scientific determinism angle?

drfazl

You have no power, is this what you find hard to accept? You have no power. How can you Surrender if you deem yourself a little god who makes decisions and Allah follows after your decisions and you make Allah do things, you make Allah send you to hell, you make Allah send you to paradise, you make Allah by the deeds you will yourself to do, this or that? You decide where you want to walk? You decide where you want to sleep? If you want to kill someone, it is in your power to kill them?

This summary of your entire article should have been the starting paragraph and there the matter would have been wound up as complete. The presentation is a bit compound and complex; and waxing and waning.

Then Musa wakes up and says "Subhanaka", the word Subhan means "Nothing" and "Void", You are Nothing!

Musa says to Allah when he came around, "Subhanaka!" which means, "Thoust art not anything of whatever I did imagine of Thee!" 112/4 And there is nothing like unto Him. It is not He who is Void; rather it is we who are devoid, imagining Allah. Musa understood that.

FreedomStands

This summary of your entire article should have been the starting paragraph and there the matter would have been wound up as complete. The presentation is a bit compound and complex; and waxing and waning.

Musa says to Allah when he came around, "Subhanaka!" which means, "Thoust art not anything of whatever I did imagine of Thee!" 112/4 And there is nothing like unto Him. It is not He who is Void; rather it is we who are devoid, imagining Allah. Musa understood that.

I was just saying that Subhan means "void" or "nothing". That is what they say, anyway, if you look and see what is said about the meaning of that word.

What is you said is fine though, as "not anything (I might imagine)" because that is true too, because God can not be imagined, because imagining anything would be imagining information, information is never God, God is not information but that which generates it, God is before it and not dependent on it, but it depends on God.

If one says "God is Information, Has some "form" even if it is invisible" or anything like that, then I'd say they are wrong, and if the Qur'an said it, I'd say the Qur'an is wrong.

Why? Because anything which has any form is thus limited by it and is "information" and "information" of any sort can not "just exist" but has to be generated, and has to be sustained in order to continue to exist and what is generated had no existence before it was generated and so can not generate itself as it is not there to generate in the first place. Its simply illogical and impossible. It is simply stupid when people think like that (I am not accusing you of thinking like that, I am just giving general examples).

The only option is that "which is not information" thus "is void" "is like nothing" "is not made of anything" "so is unlike anything, literally nothing is the only thing which is unlike anything, otherwise "anything" is like "anything" because it is all "information", has to be responsible for the generation of information, its continuation as it can not generate from itself, etc etc. I have explained these technical details here

http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9607171.msg362129#msg362129

Did you find a long list of quotes from the Qur'an to be displeasing, that I should have summarized instead as you suggested, so that those quotes make no appearance and people don't see them and aren't encouraged to read them?

Man_of_Faith

Freedomstands,

The substances are made of something called naar in Arabic which has several meanings and the least accurate is "fire" whereof the jinn made of fire delusion. It is hard to say what it really is, but you can describe it that if you break its integrity you will visually have light and there will be an energy discharge and there will be generated heat. It is usually called an atom in English. It is not visible in itself although because you can see the energy radiation it is still empirically observable. In the light of quantum physics we have also been enabled to empirically study within their nature. Scientists stand and stare right into the foundation of the visible existence and yet many are atheists funny enough.

That is the real 'naar'. Quran is very scientifically correct. Naar simply means morphologically "Integrity Be Solid" implying it is what makes everything solid. That is what renders the "outer layer" (jinn) of the Earth. It is usually used in Quran to refer to force or energy (when you apply force or give a fate to someone). The root is Nun-Waw-Ra.

May the Force be with you

Be well

Man_of_Faith

Void is not supported by very old lexicons for Subhan.

I often translate it as being successful by the means of perfection. Subhan means you are without error. But the root has a meaning of accomplishment of affairs which I take could indicate that it is the completion of Being when you say Subhan'Allah.

Be well

FreedomStands

Void is not supported by very old lexicons for Subhan.

I often translate it as being successful by the means of perfection. Subhan means you are without error. But the root has a meaning of accomplishment of affairs which I take could indicate that it is the completion of Being when you say Subhan'Allah.

Be well

What old lexicons are you using? Linguists of today say the root "sabh" means "void" and thus that SubhanAllah means "Allah is Void" which they take to mean "devoid of all they attribute/associate", the idea of "void" in Arabic linguistic thinking (modern) comes from implications of "Nothing" "Emptiness" "Nothing there" "Desolation" and things like that. The idea of a mountain being atomized corresponds well "being made into nothing" "being made void" anyway. It wouldn't matter to me if it meant "Allah is a puppy", I simply wouldn't believe it in that case or promote that (hopefully).

It isn't too hard to look it up, you can look up what they claim sabh means or "sabh means void" and its even on the wiktionary website or something I think.

Yet even if people said God is called a man, or God has some substance or has some "form" even if it is invisible, or metaphysical, or abstract, it doesn't matter to me because God is literally like Nothing and this is because of reasons I've explained before about how information can not create itself and so what has to cause it can not be information itself.

In Buddhism, this is known as Sunyata.

https//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C5%9A%C5%ABnyat%C4%81

"In Shaivism
In Veerashaivism, Shunya or Shoonya (empty, zero, void) is seen as the nature of the Supreme Consciousness or Shiva. Shunya is represented as a point, or Bindu, which is beyond one and many, and beyond human intellect. Another similar term which is used in Veerashaivism to describe Shiva is balayu ? void or nothingness. One of the most important texts in South Indian Veerashaivism is called the Shunyasampadane, which means the "earning of voidness", signifying the spiritual path of merging with Shiva. H.H. Mahatapasvi Shri Kumarswamiji explains Shiva thus

It is the transcendent Reality, the pure Absolute, the supracosmic Infinity. It is itself its own world, its own universe, of any other than itself it can form no concept. It knows not length nor breadth nor height, for it has no experience of them; it has no cognisance even of the number one, for it is itself one and all being is really nothing. How to represent it? Words come out baffled, it defies all definition and description. Yet the humble attempt of human mind to represent it ends in a zero. So it is represented by a zero or Shunya."

https//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bodhi#Buddha-nature

CorrectQibla

Salam

FreedomStands

Salam

How is it going? You like what you're seeing? Do you like what I'm writing? Do you agree? If so, may the Peace and Blessings of Allah be upon you, as they already may be, if you are one made to understand!

If not?

https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=cY6SlRK5SIo

drfazl

Lex iconic approach is intriguing but serves no purpose. The meanings of a word is not important but what counts is what one means by his 'take' of a word. Let one interpret his meaning; if it is in accordance with the conscience of human nature, 4/82 then it is ok.

FreedomStands

Lex iconic approach is intriguing but serves no purpose. The meanings of a word is not important but what counts is what one means by his 'take' of a word. Let one interpret his meaning; if it is in accordance with the conscience of human nature, 4/82 then it is ok.

Might not be good for them in the end, but I think everyone might automatically do that kind of. Just following whatever they think or want to think.

Man_of_Faith

What old lexicons are you using? Linguists of today say the root "sabh" means "void" and thus that SubhanAllah means "Allah is Void" which they take to mean "devoid of all they attribute/associate", the idea of "void" in Arabic linguistic thinking (modern) comes from implications of "Nothing" "Emptiness" "Nothing there" "Desolation" and things like that. The idea of a mountain being atomized corresponds well "being made into nothing" "being made void" anyway. It wouldn't matter to me if it meant "Allah is a puppy", I simply wouldn't believe it in that case or promote that (hopefully).

I wonder what kind of linguistics you have heard expressing themselves then. I would suppose they are "Muslim scholars" or heavily influenced by religion.

There is no indication of such from 4 different ancient lexicons with the oldest about 1100 years old. There are many definitions stated for Subh, but void is not mentioned even once.

Linguistically it suits very poorly as well because why would you say Being is Void when allah as a word means that you should be it?

The real meaning would be that one is independent if they are Subhan and not a sheep. Subhan is never mentioned along with the Arabic word 'Rabb', the only object reference to the "GOD", as far as I can recall from reading the texts many times.

It isn't too hard to look it up, you can look up what they claim sabh means or "sabh means void" and its even on the wiktionary website or something I think.

But for GOD sake, you cannot use wiktionary or something. You have to study ancient lexicons yourself. There is a lexicon compiled by Edward Lane in the 1800's which is Arabic English and it uses material from several ancient lexicons. Anyone can come up with some conjecture that the word means "void", but it does not have support from older sources.

Yet even if people said God is called a man, or God has some substance or has some "form" even if it is invisible, or metaphysical, or abstract, it doesn't matter to me because God is literally like Nothing and this is because of reasons I've explained before about how information can not create itself and so what has to cause it can not be information itself.

The Sustainer can be visible and invisible and the whole universe is contained "within the grasp of its "hand"". If the Sustainer is Nothing then it means there is no existence either. You contradict yourself in pursuit of quasi-science. The Sustainer is an infinitum. It has no beginning and it has no end. You cannot see the Sustainer, but if you see can observe atoms then you have seen the Sustainer through the visible traces that can be observed. Yet atoms cannot be destroyed but they simply transform into a different matter. The whole universe is a living platform and every atom out there is the Sustainer. When an embryo grows into a fetus then it is the Sustainer that is causing the movement of atoms to form the baby in the uterus. It is an autonomous chain of events even though the copulation initiated the sequence.

Everything in the world except the copies of the Sustainer on the model after Adam are autonomous and also Adam can be autonomous if they just go after the primate's desires rather than Being (allah).

You are right that the Sustainer is not visible in its raw form, but subh is the wrong word to look for.

Be well

FreedomStands