READ & POST PLZ:What do you think, in detail, of the following verses and ideas?
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Void is not supported by very old lexicons for Subhan.
I often translate it as being successful by the means of perfection. Subhan means you are without error. But the root has a meaning of accomplishment of affairs which I take could indicate that it is the completion of Being when you say Subhan'Allah.
Be well
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Void is not supported by very old lexicons for Subhan.
I often translate it as being successful by the means of perfection. Subhan means you are without error. But the root has a meaning of accomplishment of affairs which I take could indicate that it is the completion of Being when you say Subhan'Allah.
Be well
What old lexicons are you using? Linguists of today say the root "sabh" means "void" and thus that SubhanAllah means "Allah is Void" which they take to mean "devoid of all they attribute/associate", the idea of "void" in Arabic linguistic thinking (modern) comes from implications of "Nothing" "Emptiness" "Nothing there" "Desolation" and things like that. The idea of a mountain being atomized corresponds well "being made into nothing" "being made void" anyway. It wouldn't matter to me if it meant "Allah is a puppy", I simply wouldn't believe it in that case or promote that (hopefully).
It isn't too hard to look it up, you can look up what they claim sabh means or "sabh means void" and its even on the wiktionary website or something I think.
Yet even if people said God is called a man, or God has some substance or has some "form" even if it is invisible, or metaphysical, or abstract, it doesn't matter to me because God is literally like Nothing and this is because of reasons I've explained before about how information can not create itself and so what has to cause it can not be information itself.
In Buddhism, this is known as Sunyata.
https//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C5%9A%C5%ABnyat%C4%81
"In Shaivism
In Veerashaivism, Shunya or Shoonya (empty, zero, void) is seen as the nature of the Supreme Consciousness or Shiva. Shunya is represented as a point, or Bindu, which is beyond one and many, and beyond human intellect. Another similar term which is used in Veerashaivism to describe Shiva is balayu ? void or nothingness. One of the most important texts in South Indian Veerashaivism is called the Shunyasampadane, which means the "earning of voidness", signifying the spiritual path of merging with Shiva. H.H. Mahatapasvi Shri Kumarswamiji explains Shiva thusIt is the transcendent Reality, the pure Absolute, the supracosmic Infinity. It is itself its own world, its own universe, of any other than itself it can form no concept. It knows not length nor breadth nor height, for it has no experience of them; it has no cognisance even of the number one, for it is itself one and all being is really nothing. How to represent it? Words come out baffled, it defies all definition and description. Yet the humble attempt of human mind to represent it ends in a zero. So it is represented by a zero or Shunya."
https//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bodhi#Buddha-nature
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Salam
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Salam
How is it going? You like what you're seeing? Do you like what I'm writing? Do you agree? If so, may the Peace and Blessings of Allah be upon you, as they already may be, if you are one made to understand!
If not?
https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=cY6SlRK5SIo
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Lex iconic approach is intriguing but serves no purpose. The meanings of a word is not important but what counts is what one means by his 'take' of a word. Let one interpret his meaning; if it is in accordance with the conscience of human nature, 4/82 then it is ok.
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Lex iconic approach is intriguing but serves no purpose. The meanings of a word is not important but what counts is what one means by his 'take' of a word. Let one interpret his meaning; if it is in accordance with the conscience of human nature, 4/82 then it is ok.
Might not be good for them in the end, but I think everyone might automatically do that kind of. Just following whatever they think or want to think.
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What old lexicons are you using? Linguists of today say the root "sabh" means "void" and thus that SubhanAllah means "Allah is Void" which they take to mean "devoid of all they attribute/associate", the idea of "void" in Arabic linguistic thinking (modern) comes from implications of "Nothing" "Emptiness" "Nothing there" "Desolation" and things like that. The idea of a mountain being atomized corresponds well "being made into nothing" "being made void" anyway. It wouldn't matter to me if it meant "Allah is a puppy", I simply wouldn't believe it in that case or promote that (hopefully).
I wonder what kind of linguistics you have heard expressing themselves then. I would suppose they are "Muslim scholars" or heavily influenced by religion.
There is no indication of such from 4 different ancient lexicons with the oldest about 1100 years old. There are many definitions stated for Subh, but void is not mentioned even once.
Linguistically it suits very poorly as well because why would you say Being is Void when allah as a word means that you should be it?
The real meaning would be that one is independent if they are Subhan and not a sheep. Subhan is never mentioned along with the Arabic word 'Rabb', the only object reference to the "GOD", as far as I can recall from reading the texts many times.
It isn't too hard to look it up, you can look up what they claim sabh means or "sabh means void" and its even on the wiktionary website or something I think.
But for GOD sake, you cannot use wiktionary or something. You have to study ancient lexicons yourself. There is a lexicon compiled by Edward Lane in the 1800's which is Arabic English and it uses material from several ancient lexicons. Anyone can come up with some conjecture that the word means "void", but it does not have support from older sources.
Yet even if people said God is called a man, or God has some substance or has some "form" even if it is invisible, or metaphysical, or abstract, it doesn't matter to me because God is literally like Nothing and this is because of reasons I've explained before about how information can not create itself and so what has to cause it can not be information itself.
The Sustainer can be visible and invisible and the whole universe is contained "within the grasp of its "hand"". If the Sustainer is Nothing then it means there is no existence either. You contradict yourself in pursuit of quasi-science. The Sustainer is an infinitum. It has no beginning and it has no end. You cannot see the Sustainer, but if you see can observe atoms then you have seen the Sustainer through the visible traces that can be observed. Yet atoms cannot be destroyed but they simply transform into a different matter. The whole universe is a living platform and every atom out there is the Sustainer. When an embryo grows into a fetus then it is the Sustainer that is causing the movement of atoms to form the baby in the uterus. It is an autonomous chain of events even though the copulation initiated the sequence.
Everything in the world except the copies of the Sustainer on the model after Adam are autonomous and also Adam can be autonomous if they just go after the primate's desires rather than Being (allah).
You are right that the Sustainer is not visible in its raw form, but subh is the wrong word to look for.
Be well
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I wonder what kind of linguistics you have heard expressing themselves then. I would suppose they are "Muslim scholars" or heavily influenced by religion.
There is no indication of such from 4 different ancient lexicons with the oldest about 1100 years old. There are many definitions stated for Subh, but void is not mentioned even once.
Linguistically it suits very poorly as well because why would you say Being is Void when allah as a word means that you should be it?
The real meaning would be that one is independent if they are Subhan and not a sheep. Subhan is never mentioned along with the Arabic word 'Rabb', the only object reference to the "GOD", as far as I can recall from reading the texts many times.
But for GOD sake, you cannot use wiktionary or something. You have to study ancient lexicons yourself. There is a lexicon compiled by Edward Lane in the 1800's which is Arabic English and it uses material from several ancient lexicons. Anyone can come up with some conjecture that the word means "void", but it does not have support from older sources.
The Sustainer can be visible and invisible and the whole universe is contained "within the grasp of its "hand"". If the Sustainer is Nothing then it means there is no existence either. You contradict yourself in pursuit of quasi-science. The Sustainer is an infinitum. It has no beginning and it has no end. You cannot see the Sustainer, but if you see can observe atoms then you have seen the Sustainer through the visible traces that can be observed. Yet atoms cannot be destroyed but they simply transform into a different matter. The whole universe is a living platform and every atom out there is the Sustainer. When an embryo grows into a fetus then it is the Sustainer that is causing the movement of atoms to form the baby in the uterus. It is an autonomous chain of events even though the copulation initiated the sequence.
Everything in the world except the copies of the Sustainer on the model after Adam are autonomous and also Adam can be autonomous if they just go after the primate's desires rather than Being (allah).
You are right that the Sustainer is not visible in its raw form, but subh is the wrong word to look for.
Be well
It is the official academic interpretation of the meaning and origin of the term, its well known among linguists both non-Muslim and Muslim. "Scholar" types might avoid it, since they don't like that it means that, but that is what it means according to linguists. You might be looking up the wrong combination of letters if you can't find it.
It is also easy to find online, just type "what does SubhanAllah mean" or "Sabh means void" and some stuff might come up or "Allah is void" or other things.
Are you claiming that God is made up of "stuff" (information) and thus has even an "invisible form" or "substance" which CAN NOT BE because God is the first, uncreated, made of nothing, there is no "stuff" except as God creates, God is before "stuff", and if God were "stuff" then something had to have made the stuff and determined its laws and what "binds" God to the "stuff", no, God is never "stuff" and never made of "information" of any sort, but makes all information, is UNCONDITIONED.
So it fits well, even if the Qur'an never said it.
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The Sustainer can be visible and invisible and the whole universe is contained "within the grasp of its "hand"". If the Sustainer is Nothing then it means there is no existence either. You contradict yourself in pursuit of quasi-science. The Sustainer is an infinitum. It has no beginning and it has no end. You cannot see the Sustainer, but if you see can observe atoms then you have seen the Sustainer through the visible traces that can be observed. Yet atoms cannot be destroyed but they simply transform into a different matter. The whole universe is a living platform and every atom out there is the Sustainer. When an embryo grows into a fetus then it is the Sustainer that is causing the movement of atoms to form the baby in the uterus. It is an autonomous chain of events even though the copulation initiated the sequence.
You know MOF, after I had the weird dream about Allah I wanted to pm you because it described what you always tell usbecome one with God. I was hesitant only because I didn't understand what I saw. I didn't know how to put it into words. I was confused and dumbfounded. But members on this forum assured me that it wasn't anything crazy. Everything you said here does explain what I believe now. But our reality is so limited that I feel it would take thousands more years to truly explain what Allah is. For most mainstream Muslims, he lives in the sky and watches us from there P
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You know MOF, after I had the weird dream about Allah I wanted to pm you because it described what you always tell usbecome one with God. I was hesitant only because I didn't understand what I saw. I didn't know how to put it into words. I was confused and dumbfounded. But members on this forum assured me that it wasn't anything crazy. Everything you said here does explain what I believe now. But our reality is so limited that I feel it would take thousands more years to truly explain what Allah is. For most mainstream Muslims, he lives in the sky and watches us from there P
Good idea to trust in your dreams huh?
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Are you claiming that God is made up of "stuff" (information) and thus has even an "invisible form" or "substance" which CAN NOT BE because God is the first, uncreated, made of nothing, there is no "stuff" except as God creates, God is before "stuff", and if God were "stuff" then something had to have made the stuff and determined its laws and what "binds" God to the "stuff", no, God is never "stuff" and never made of "information" of any sort, but makes all information, is UNCONDITIONED.
It is a fallacy in itself because nothing cannot create nothing. It is 0 + 0 = 0.
However 1 + 1 = 2, even though since every matter is a share of that singularity it should be 1 + 1 = 1, just like a computer works, i.e. either it is 0 or it is 1. You can imagine the Sustainer by a disk layer of hard-drive where the constancy (singularity) is either 0 or 1 and every bit can be written to and sufficient bits (atoms) then they form a byte (molecule) and sufficient bytes they form a file fragment (substance) and when they are a file then it can be an object of different form, but they still consist of many billion bits.
The Sustainer is a constancy and infinitum. It has no beginning nor an end, but it is there as a singularity. You cannot destroy the surface of that "disk" but only erase the information to become a zero. But the Sustainer can both rewrite a zero or make it write-protected so you cannot erase the 1 or there is certain difficulty to erase the zero (a hard matter such as diamond) that you need a special program (sequence of data = a tool) to erase the data.
If you are smart, then you see the parable from your Sustainer in the above elaboration. If you do not, well then that is up to you and you cannot blame the Sustainer.
But your spirit is not stored on that hard-drive but when the data is projected as a running application then your spirit is there. Refer to the parable that you are a Player that sits and is into a computer game, but the Programmer and Administrator can affect your game very literally and sits interconnected 24/7 and monitors the development and always has the last say in everything, and the Administrator can also go in and unconditionally write to the disk so that information (atoms) are altered.
The hardware that you use (in the parable) is the Sustainer. Due to its overwhelming nature and that the Sustainer is existence itself it is difficult to comprehend this. But your Sustainer is NOT "nothingness", but rather than a constant 1. Refer to that 0 + 0 cannot be 1. Now that human science begins to enter Quantum Physics they have begun to be able to look into the nature of their Sustainer, even though ironically most scientists are still atheists. The universe is when the data is expanded on that disk leaving more data as 0 in between. And the storage space on the disk is infinite, by the way.
constancy / knstnsi / Ac noun formal
1 the quality of staying the same even though other things changeinfinite / nfnt / Ac adjective
2 without limits in space or time ; OPP finite
The universe is infinite.It is the official academic interpretation of the meaning and origin of the term, its well known among linguists both non-Muslim and Muslim. "Scholar" types might avoid it, since they don't like that it means that, but that is what it means according to linguists. You might be looking up the wrong combination of letters if you can't find it.
It is also easy to find online, just type "what does SubhanAllah mean" or "Sabh means void" and some stuff might come up or "Allah is void" or other things.
(Siin-Ba-Ha) does not mean void. There is absolutely no traditional reference that I know of in elder sources that indicate this. It does not make any sense either because Allah is not a word for your Sustainer but it means "Such as is It". The only indication would be that you mean that everyone who decides on Being, we do not exist?
I gave in the previous segment above information to you that your Sustainer needs to be 1 or else it does not work. Nothing originates out of nothingness.
nothingness / nns / noun
1 empty space, or the absence of anything
He stared into nothingness.
2 the state of not existing
Is there only nothingness after death?The problem is that your Sustainer is both empty space and filled space, i.e. if it is 0 and 1. Refer to the disk I was talking about as a parable. Even if there is an empty void there is an inactivated "data sector" (zero) also some think it is called "dark matter". This is why the data technology is very good at forming parables in our contemporary time.
Be well
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You know MOF, after I had the weird dream about Allah I wanted to pm you because it described what you always tell usbecome one with God. I was hesitant only because I didn't understand what I saw. I didn't know how to put it into words. I was confused and dumbfounded. But members on this forum assured me that it wasn't anything crazy. Everything you said here does explain what I believe now. But our reality is so limited that I feel it would take thousands more years to truly explain what Allah is. For most mainstream Muslims, he lives in the sky and watches us from there P
I think that subconsciously people know that what I write makes sense but they consciously suppress the thought since the human consists of two parts while usually the conscious you (which is the primate) has the dominating role. The key is to suppress that primitive Being within you to move forth your true spirit. If you could get forth your subconscious mind into the normal consciousness, not only could you understand that you were actually living for a very long time but in different husks but you also realize your place and who you are. If you trigger the subconscious mind from expressing itself by a strong elicitation such as my words then you can have obscure dreams.
The silly part is that you are much like a god that has been deluded in a deceiving body and world. If you could retrieve forth your subconscious mind then much would be more clear to you.
There is just problems with this and it has to be taken with caution because the raw spirit of your subconscious mind can cause certain interference with your daily living when you no longer can differentiate between your "temporary" husk's life and what you retrieved. Mentally ill people who have psychosis have a dysfunction that they gather at random information from the subconscious mind causing all sorts of interference with normal living. You have to be strong and not let on your whole spirit at once but learn to grow your spirit. The reason why you are here again and again and again is because you previously failed attempts and you may actually have been a bad person and you need to control who you are. It is like you have to "tame" your spirit and learn to Be Being (allah). If it is tamed then you can finally have peace.
I do not encourage drinking alcohol, but if you no longer get affected in any way except bodily imbalance due to the intoxication you have tamed your spirit. The alcohol draws forth elements from the fragmented subconscious mind and the nature of your primate body. I stopped drinking alcohol due to this reason in 2008.
But our reality is so limited that I feel it would take thousands more years to truly explain what Allah is.
Actually it is not so difficult to explain using parables such as what I wrote to FreedomStands. It is just a matter of being crazy or controlled enough to believe in it. When we limit ourselves to what we perceive using our standard senses then it becomes difficult. Modern abstract science has enabled us to study the phenomenon of the Sustainer more easily.
The main difficulty is to understand how a constancy and infinitum could be there in the first place as our normal logic cannot make it work out. No beginning nor end is hard for us. And it is hard to understand how it works dynamically with all zeros (dark matter) and ones (matter). But to further the understanding initially the most important is to realize that the Sustainer is existence itself. No separation. If you exist then it is in symbiosis with It.
My personal question is not what the Sustainer is, but I am still dumbfounded to comprehend how something can exist apparently without a beginning nor end. I understand conjecture like the Matrix, but then one can also think that Matrix was created with influence from the Sustainer. I think one has to simply accept that there is no explanation for the Sustainer, It simply IS. It is too advanced to comprehend down deeper. But it is the more important for us to understand that we are in delusion in a body made to be an illusion to us on purpose, and that WE ARE COPIES OF THE GRAND CONSCIOUSNESS (the Sustainer). If we appear helpless is because we are forcefully attached to bodies on purpose and we cannot sense our divine nature due to the illusion that was placed there on purpose by the Sustainer. Because the Sustainer had in mind to refine and test all the new souls and only keep the best to return to their raw source.
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Be well
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It is a fallacy in itself because nothing cannot create nothing. It is 0 + 0 = 0.
However 1 + 1 = 2, even though since every matter is a share of that singularity it should be 1 + 1 = 1, just like a computer works, i.e. either it is 0 or it is 1. You can imagine the Sustainer by a disk layer of hard-drive where the constancy (singularity) is either 0 or 1 and every bit can be written to and sufficient bits (atoms) then they form a byte (molecule) and sufficient bytes they form a file fragment (substance) and when they are a file then it can be an object of different form, but they still consist of many billion bits.
The Sustainer is a constancy and infinitum. It has no beginning nor an end, but it is there as a singularity. You cannot destroy the surface of that "disk" but only erase the information to become a zero. But the Sustainer can both rewrite a zero or make it write-protected so you cannot erase the 1 or there is certain difficulty to erase the zero (a hard matter such as diamond) that you need a special program (sequence of data = a tool) to erase the data.
If you are smart, then you see the parable from your Sustainer in the above elaboration. If you do not, well then that is up to you and you cannot blame the Sustainer.
But your spirit is not stored on that hard-drive but when the data is projected as a running application then your spirit is there. Refer to the parable that you are a Player that sits and is into a computer game, but the Programmer and Administrator can affect your game very literally and sits interconnected 24/7 and monitors the development and always has the last say in everything, and the Administrator can also go in and unconditionally write to the disk so that information (atoms) are altered.
The hardware that you use (in the parable) is the Sustainer. Due to its overwhelming nature and that the Sustainer is existence itself it is difficult to comprehend this. But your Sustainer is NOT "nothingness", but rather than a constant 1. Refer to that 0 + 0 cannot be 1. Now that human science begins to enter Quantum Physics they have begun to be able to look into the nature of their Sustainer, even though ironically most scientists are still atheists. The universe is when the data is expanded on that disk leaving more data as 0 in between. And the storage space on the disk is infinite, by the way.
constancy / knstnsi / Ac noun formal
1 the quality of staying the same even though other things changeinfinite / nfnt / Ac adjective
2 without limits in space or time ; OPP finite
The universe is infinite.(Siin-Ba-Ha) does not mean void. There is absolutely no traditional reference that I know of in elder sources that indicate this. It does not make any sense either because Allah is not a word for your Sustainer but it means "Such as is It". The only indication would be that you mean that everyone who decides on Being, we do not exist?
I gave in the previous segment above information to you that your Sustainer needs to be 1 or else it does not work. Nothing originates out of nothingness.
nothingness / nns / noun
1 empty space, or the absence of anything
He stared into nothingness.
2 the state of not existing
Is there only nothingness after death?The problem is that your Sustainer is both empty space and filled space, i.e. if it is 0 and 1. Refer to the disk I was talking about as a parable. Even if there is an empty void there is an inactivated "data sector" (zero) also some think it is called "dark matter". This is why the data technology is very good at forming parables in our contemporary time.
Be well
God is LIKE Nothing, that is, not MADE of ANYTHING (and ANYTHING is Information), but God has GENERATIVE POWER and IS the GENERATIVE POWER, which is not made of anything, BUT MAKES EVERYTHING. This has been PROVEN as what we are experiencing, whatever at all it is, visible or invisible, is "information" and whatever at all is animating it and generating it ULTIMATELY is what I call GOD.
There is no fallacy, and I am not saying that God is ABSOLUTE NOTHING which can not DO anything, but God is LIKE ABSOLUTELY NOTHING except that God HAS and IS the POWER which WILLS, DETERMINES, CREATES, commanding BE, and it is in an instant.
If God did not have the generative power, there would be only GOD, which is LIKE NOTHING, literally, no form, no shape, no images, no information, no size, no dimensions, no place, no box, nothing greater, nothing limiting, unconditioned.
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https//books.google.ca/books?id=EBBDD_qB-68C&pg=PA132&lpg=PA132&dq=Sabh+means+void&source=bl&ots=Qbs6Ne3gAP&sig=JsU6w_BP6O2EGMPcDjEYMff0sHM&hl=en&sa=X&ei=vXGfVdDzDI2kyASh0raIDA&ved=0CC0Q6AEwAg#v=onepage&q=Sabh%20means%20void&f=false
https//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tasbih#Etymology
http//www.islamquest.net/en/archive/question/fa12489
https//9dozen.wordpress.com/2008/11/17/subhanallah-and-its-meaning/
http//islamquest.net/en/archive/question/fa9773/tmpl/component/printme/1
http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9607045.msg363265#msg363265
http//www.shiachat.com/forum/topic/235001342-subhan-allah/?p=2387497
"Said Mohammed bin AbeeBakr Abdulqader al-Razee, in his book "Mukhtar al-Sihah" one of the classic Arabic-wordbooks
The meaning of subhanallah is, making God pure, and it is bound to its original word (sabh, meaning void) as if he said, I verily absolve God from all evil.The origin for the word is sabh, voidness, or tasbeeh, making something void. So the direct literal meaning of the phrase is God is devoid... And there is a part that is unpronounced which is "void of all evil". And this is the way that it is used in the Quran. For example it says; "SubhanAllahi ammaa yasifoon 37159 - Void/Free is Allah from that (evil) which they ascribe (to Him)" and "SubhanAllah ammaa yushrikoon" 5243 - Free is God from what they associate with him."
It is also often cited during the Islamic prayer (salat). During the sermon (khutba) in the mosques."
haha this is not an academic one but
https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=ny8PRVHQqSU
Shiva is indeed God.
https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=AJLuhMQjoUc
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https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=k5K5jBqOoy0
https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ODuMh77xGI
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https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwQ76Mw2B9Q
enter the void - together we'll be
diffused in the essence of ether reality
enter the void - together we'll be
the soul of the core of virtualitystar of chaos - black mirrored section
the sun that burns beyond all light
all-seeing eye of transformation
reflections of a frame of mindenter the void - enter with me
we'll breathe the essence of discontinuity
enter the void - enter with me
we'll evoke the desires manifested to beenter the void - together we'll be
the dreams of our own reality
enter the void - together we'll be
lost in divisions of you and mestar of chaos - black mirrored section
the sun that burns beyond all light
all-seeing eye of transformation
reflections of a frame of mindenter the void - together we'll be
lost in divisions of you and me
enter the void - together we'll be
the dreams of our own realityenter the void - enter with me
we'll breathe the essence of discontinuity
enter the void - enter with me
we'll evoke the desires manifested to bestar of chaos - black mirrored section
the sun that burns beyond all light
all-seeing eye of transformation
reflections of a frame of mindstar of chaos - black mirrored section
the sun that burns beyond all light
all seeing eye of transformation
reflections of a frame of mind -
God is LIKE Nothing, that is, not MADE of ANYTHING (and ANYTHING is Information), but God has GENERATIVE POWER and IS the GENERATIVE POWER, which is not made of anything, BUT MAKES EVERYTHING. This has been PROVEN as what we are experiencing, whatever at all it is, visible or invisible, is "information" and whatever at all is animating it and generating it ULTIMATELY is what I call GOD.
There is no fallacy, and I am not saying that God is ABSOLUTE NOTHING which can not DO anything, but God is LIKE ABSOLUTELY NOTHING except that God HAS and IS the POWER which WILLS, DETERMINES, CREATES, commanding BE, and it is in an instant.
If God did not have the generative power, there would be only GOD, which is LIKE NOTHING, literally, no form, no shape, no images, no information, no size, no dimensions, no place, no box, nothing greater, nothing limiting, unconditioned.
"GOD" is both something and nothing because "GOD" is everything. Is is exactly the opposite of what you say. "GOD" is EVERYTHING, both 1 and 0.
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"Said Mohammed bin AbeeBakr Abdulqader al-Razee, in his book "Mukhtar al-Sihah" one of the classic Arabic-wordbooks
The meaning of subhanallah is, making God pure, and it is bound to its original word (sabh, meaning void) as if he said, I verily absolve God from all evil.You have to connect the word to its real usage. It says being pure/successful and if you are pure then you are also void of errors/defects. Something pure has no stains.
But what you argue is just another side of the same coin. You said void of error while I say pure which indicate that nothing has error. Subhan means "perfect/flawless" by other words.
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You have to connect the word to its real usage. It says being pure/successful and if you are pure then you are also void of errors/defects. Something pure has no stains.
But what you argue is just another side of the same coin. You said void of error while I say pure which indicate that nothing has error. Subhan means "perfect/flawless" by other words.
It appears the older meaning was "devoid" and by that the implication in reference to God was taken to be "devoid of flaws" etc.
Like I've said though, if the word meant this or that is irrelevant, because of reasons explained here
http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9607171.msg362129#msg362129
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There is no older etymological source than where I am browsing, son. These are the oldest sources in lexicons. There is a bunch of definitions mentioned but NOT void or devoid. Pure is the best defining word and it refers that someone is no less than perfect. It does however likely refer to that one is free of the taint of the world.
But the Sustainer is not void but it encompasses everything.
It is worth mentioning that the word seems to be present also in Aramaic after searching because you insist so much.