I have sinned big time :(
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My point had been to say, ask for forgiveness but don't just deem yourself forgiven so that you don't strive to amend and correct. So quickly trying to comfort oneself rather than harnessing the God-given guilt towards motivation to do better was my point. A point which perhaps you are not allowed to understand, and instead, despite looking at my amount of work regarding God, used to attack and accuse me of mockery towards God when I was not mocking the revelations at all.
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Lo! ye are those who love them though they love you not, and ye believe in all the Scripture. When they fall in with you they say We believe; but when they go apart they bite their finger-tips at you, for rage. Say Perish in your rage! Lo! Allah is Aware of what is hidden in (your) breasts.Have you interpreted 3953?
Or 3119 is the interpretation to 3953?
Or are you dodging?I tell you, if you interpret the ayat with your own mouth you will know your guilt of misleading those who hear you. Seek forgiveness; seek wisdom in your prayers. And then interpret the ayat 3953
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Have you interpreted 3953?
Or 3119 is the interpretation to 3953?
Or are you dodging?I tell you, if you interpret the ayat with your own mouth you will know your guilt of misleading those who hear you. Seek forgiveness; seek wisdom in your prayers. And then interpret the ayat 3953
I am not "misleading" anyone. You're the one who is guilty of accusing me falsely. Take it with you, where you go.
I never mocked at that verse, I said that one can take the opportunity to use their regret or feelings of guilt to work harder to do good, that is not misleading or guilt. So let it come, what is coming to either of us for what we say. Understood?
I was saying that it is wasteful for a person to just think themselves forgiven so as not to use their feeling of guilt to work harder. Nothing I am saying is wrong. No one is dodging you, but you won't be able to dodge, so prepare yourself, I won't be able to dodge either.
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The fornicatress and the fornicator, flog each one of them (with) hundred lash(es). And (let) not withhold you pity for them concerning (the) religion of Allah, if you believe in Allah and the Day the Last. And let witness their punishment a group of the believers. -
I am not "misleading" anyone. You're the one who is guilty of accusing me falsely. Take it with you, where you go.
Is asking you to interpret 39.53 is accusing you? Is it not making you to understand? But you do not, why?
I was saying that it is wasteful for a person to just think themselves forgiven
Wasteful? Look here! 4106 And seek forgiveness of Allah; Indeed, Allah is ever Forgiving and Merciful. Will you at least interpret this ayat? And see if this is in accordance with 39.53?
so as not to use their feeling of guilt to work harder. Nothing I am saying is wrong. No one is dodging you, but you won't be able to dodge, so prepare yourself, I won't be able to dodge either.
Without Allah forgiving you in the first place and reminding you of the godly senses you had lost, it is improbable that you will have the feeling of guilt; will you not then be grateful to Allah and seek His forgiveness for all your weaknesses?
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The fornicatress and the fornicator, flog each one of them (with) hundred lash(es). And (let) not withhold you pity for them concerning (the) religion of Allah, if you believe in Allah and the Day the Last. And let witness their punishment a group of the believers.In what way this ayat fits into 39.53? Why except this ayat, you are speaking about all the other ayats?
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Is asking you to interpret 39.53 is accusing you? Is it not making you to understand? But you do not, why?
Yes, you made multiple accusations, go and look for yourself. I also explained to you I was not mocking or even talking about the verse with my comment, I explained myself clearly, now go to your home where you belong or you'll receive even more.
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Yes, you made multiple accusations, go and look for yourself. I also explained to you I was not mocking or even talking about the verse with my comment, I explained myself clearly, now go to your home where you belong or you'll receive even more.
Seek forgiveness from Allah, before your guilt burns in the fuel you are fanning and inflaming.
3953 Say "O my Servants who have transgressed against their souls! Despair not of the Mercy of Allah for Allah forgives all sins for He is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.
lol, how wasteful.lol, how wasteful.
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Seek forgiveness from Allah, before your guilt burns in the fuel you are fanning and inflaming.
I will. Thank you.
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Seek forgiveness from Allah, before your guilt burns in the fuel you are fanning and inflaming.
You are also deliberately misquoting, I never said "lol how wasteful" twice like in your post. Nor was I talking about that verse. Yet, I still will seek forgiveness from Allah, and have. I do not ask the same of you though, ever. Please continue on your tirade if you wish, listening to no answers or reasoning given clearly and repeatedly.
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You are also deliberately misquoting, I never said "lol how wasteful" twice like in your post. Nor was I talking about that verse. Yet, I still will seek forgiveness from Allah, and have. I do not ask the same of you though, ever. Please continue on your tirade if you wish, listening to no answers or reasoning given clearly and repeatedly.
I am sorry, it was not deliberate that I quoted you twice; it was a mistake; my apologies. May Allah guide us as brethren. In future when I post from a different angle to your position, please do not think I am targeting you; that will never be my intention - and I say of myself, I am not at all envying you and I will never envy one, by Allah. If I envy one, I will invite the wrath upon the wrath of Allah 2/90 and I will suffer disgracing torment. Now you say, will I envy you, if Allah has placed you in an enviable position as only a test unto me? We are brothers and slaves unto Him.
Salam
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I am sorry, it was not deliberate that I quoted you twice; it was a mistake; my apologies. May Allah guide us as brethren. In future when I post from a different angle to your position, please do not think I am targeting you; that will never be my intention - and I say of myself, I am not at all envying you and I will never envy one, by Allah. If I envy one, I will invite the wrath upon the wrath of Allah 2/90 and I will suffer disgracing torment. Now you say, will I envy you, if Allah has placed you in an enviable position as only a test unto me? We are brothers and slaves unto Him.
Salam
drfazlAlright, then trust me please when I am saying that I was not mocking the revelations or even talking about the revelations when I made that comment at all. I was talking about something else. I have no problem with those revelations and they don't need interpretation or anything they are pretty clear, we need not despair of Allah's mercy and Allah can easily forgive anything, I agree with that, I was just saying that people should work hard to do good and not just feel its ok to sin and just forgive themselves and not use an opportunity of feeling bad to turn it towards motivation to work hard to do good, my message was supposed to be nice, but I wasn't mocking or laughing at the revelations at all. It was the idea of how sometimes people like Christian speakers and stuff are caught in big crimes and then say "God has forgiven me" and stuff, and don't actually work hard to turn themselves around. I have no problem with the revelations, nor do I disbelieve in them or that it is easy for Allah to forgive, that can be done for anything easily within the normal lifespan of a person if they truly turn around. I was not going "lol" to the revelations or calling them wasteful, just finding it humorous that people want to so quickly rush to that without utilizing the natural bad feeling they are getting to turn it into motivation for hard work in good deeds, and "wasteful" was to ignore the feelings and not use them advantageously, but one should certainly ask for forgiveness and know that Allah can easily forgive anything, no problem. If you read what I wrote I've tried to explain this clearly a few times. Thanks anyway.
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3953 Say "O my Servants who have transgressed against their souls! Despair not of the Mercy of Allah for Allah forgives all sins for He is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.
I think you probably have to just repent, and from experience just accept it, and dont let you feeling sorry for yourself stop you from turning to God, i find when i have been in situations where i have felt the same, It was my ego that stopped me turning to God, dont let satan avert you from repentance. God is Most forgiving Most merciful