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God or Allah. Wich is correct in English

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    FreedomStands
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    Allah (Worshiped Ultimate Power)
    Odin (Furious/Inspiration/Inspirer)
    Vishnu (Pervading)
    Shiva (Auspicious/SubhanAllah)
    Subhan (Nothing/Void/Non-Information)
    Dharmakaya (The Reality Body, having no image or form)
    Satan (Enemy)
    Lucifer (Light Bearer)
    Amun (Hidden/Unseen)
    Ra (Manifest/Who makes Manifest)
    Gitche Manitou (Great Spirit)
    Teotl (Ultimate Power)
    Shangdi (Sh?ng ? means "high", "highest", "first", "primordial" The name Shangdi is thus generally translated as "Highest Emperor", but also "Primordial Emperor", "Ancestral God", "First God". The deity preceded the title and the emperors of China were named after him in their role as Tianzi, the sons of Heaven.)

    tiw mihtig r ("very mighty&quot
    Ylijumala (Overgod/Ultimate God)

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      hawk99
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      Couldn't disagree more.

      al ilh

      what is that al you think?

      This is pretty fundamental stuff, no? It is not some God, any God. It is the God.

      Peace

      Not in English! in English we say "God," not "the God."

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        runninglikezebras
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        Allah (Worshiped Ultimate Power)
        Odin (Furious/Inspiration/Inspirer)
        Vishnu (Pervading)
        Shiva (Auspicious/SubhanAllah)
        Subhan (Nothing/Void/Non-Information)
        Dharmakaya (The Reality Body, having no image or form)
        Satan (Enemy)
        Lucifer (Light Bearer)
        Amun (Hidden/Unseen)
        Ra (Manifest/Who makes Manifest)
        Gitche Manitou (Great Spirit)
        Teotl (Ultimate Power)
        Shangdi (Sh?ng ? means "high", "highest", "first", "primordial" The name Shangdi is thus generally translated as "Highest Emperor", but also "Primordial Emperor", "Ancestral God", "First God". The deity preceded the title and the emperors of China were named after him in their role as Tianzi, the sons of Heaven.)

        tiw mihtig r ("very mighty&quot
        Ylijumala (Overgod/Ultimate God)

        Not one of those is the God I submit to except the first. I submit to "The one God". al-ilhah, Ilh meaning God. There is no ilh but al-Lh. Read There is no God but The God.

        Peace

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          runninglikezebras
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          Not in English! in English we say "God," not "the God."

          ilh translates to God
          al-Lh translates to the God.

          Peace

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            FreedomStands
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            Not one of those is the God I submit to except the first. I submit to "The one God". al-ilhah, Ilh meaning God. There is no ilh but al-Lh. Read There is no God but The God.

            Peace

            Ah, I worship all those Gods, because to me they are just words in other languages that can refer to the One of which there is no other.

            God means "invoked" in the English etymology, it is related to the word Khudah.

            The Semitic word Ilah refers to "power", and many of the "gods" in the Semitic languages were just concepts and natural powers. They were "invoked" but the word did not mean "invoked" the way the English word God does etymologically.

            The root tends to mean "worshiped" but has other meanings in it.

            A slight variation on the word ilah was used in reference to the Ultimate, before Islam, and the word can be found at the top of all lists of powers like Allalu, and other varieties which differed slightly from the ordinary or common term for any "ilah" which just meant any power and was used of various powers such as "death, sea, sky, sun, moon, righteousness, wisdom" and whatever else

            https//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alalu

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              hawk99
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              ilh translates to God
              al-Lh translates to the God.

              Peace

              Peace runninglikezebras, what is your first language?

              peace

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                Ah, I worship all those Gods, because to me they are just words in other languages that can refer to the One of which there is no other.

                God means "invoked" in the English etymology, it is related to the word Khudah.

                The Semitic word Ilah refers to "power", and many of the "gods" in the Semitic languages were just concepts and natural powers. They were "invoked" but the word did not mean "invoked" the way the English word God does etymologically.

                The root tends to mean "worshiped" but has other meanings in it.

                A slight variation on the word ilah was used in reference to the Ultimate, before Islam, and the word can be found at the top of all lists of powers like Allalu, and other varieties which differed slightly from the ordinary or common term for any "ilah" which just meant any power and was used of various powers such as "death, sea, sky, sun, moon, righteousness, wisdom" and whatever else

                https//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alalu

                Regardless of this, I consider many of the Gods you name to be strongly associated with pagan traditions that are incompatible with Quran. Just because their pantheons of many gods had a concept of supreme God does not make them anymore Quranically sound.

                Peace

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                  runninglikezebras
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                  Peace runninglikezebras, what is your first language?

                  peace

                  If you have a point to make please do so.

                  Peace

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                    hawk99
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                    If you have a point to make please do so.

                    Peace

                    Oh I have a point good brother, that's why I asked the question i.e.,
                    what is your first language?

                    peace

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                      FreedomStands
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                      Peace runninglikezebras, what is your first language?

                      peace

                      Lion!

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                        FreedomStands
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                        Regardless of this, I consider many of the Gods you name to be strongly associated with pagan traditions that are incompatible with Quran. Just because their pantheons of many gods had a concept of supreme God does not make them anymore Quranically sound.

                        Peace

                        To me, they are just words. Allah was also worshiped or mentioned by the pagans, that doesn't make Allah false or the word unusable.

                        To say "Unseen" in another language, doesn't invalidate the quality of Allah as "Unseen" for example, even if pagans say or do something stupid in using the word.

                        That is just simple logic and avoiding fallacies in thinking.

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                          FreedomStands
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                          Oh I have a point good brother, that's why I asked the question i.e.,
                          what is your first language?

                          peace

                          I have a point, but it isn't very sharp!

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                            runninglikezebras
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                            Oh I have a point good brother, that's why I asked the question i.e.,
                            what is your first language?

                            peace

                            My native language is irrelevant to this discussion. If you have a Quranic or linguistic point to make, make it and skip the dramatic build up.

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                              FreedomStands
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                              My native language is irrelevant to this discussion. If you have a Quranic or linguistic point to make, make it and skip the dramatic build up.

                              lol I'm curious for the sake of curiosity too, just to know.

                              I grew up with English mainly, but when I was little there was an urdu speaking caretaker so I spoke full urdu and can still understand it mostly today.

                              I don't know any other languages really, but I love the study of linguistics and etymology and have been at that for a long time, spanning a great deal of languages.

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                                To me, they are just words. Allah was also worshiped or mentioned by the pagans, that doesn't make Allah false or the word unusable.

                                To say "Unseen" in another language, doesn't invalidate the quality of Allah as "Unseen" for example, even if pagans say or do something stupid in using the word.

                                That is just simple logic and avoiding fallacies in thinking.

                                So true.

                                My native language is irrelevant to this discussion. If you have a Quranic or linguistic point to make, make it and skip the dramatic build up.

                                Are you running like a zebra? )

                                God bless

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                                  runninglikezebras
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                                  I guess you have no point to make without me giving you the assist to go ad hominem.

                                  Peace

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                                    hawk99
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                                    I guess you have no point to make without me giving you the assist to go ad hominem.

                                    Peace

                                    You seem like an intelligent person, so why is the question
                                    "What is your first language" so difficult for you?

                                    P.S. It has to do with the discussion

                                    peace

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                                      runninglikezebras
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                                      You seem like an intelligent person, so why is the question
                                      "What is your first language" so difficult for you?

                                      P.S. It has to do with the discussion

                                      peace

                                      I don't see how it's relevant. I'm sure if you have linguistic proof to bring, my personal background is unnecessary.

                                      Peace

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                                        hawk99
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                                        I don't see how it's relevant. I'm sure if you have linguistic proof to bring, my personal background is unnecessary.

                                        Peace

                                        No problem handshake

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                                          FreedomStands
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                                          So true.

                                          Are you running like a zebra? )

                                          God bless

                                          Thank you very much!

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