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Is Jesus announced by Mohammed in the Quran?

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    good_logic
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    Peace runninglikezebras.

    A more logical question will be

    Where did Qoran come from?

    Is it from GOD?

    Then you can proceed to ask

    Who came after Jesus to deliver Qoran?

    The name Ahmed ,Mohammeed. Mustafa....All become irrelevant .A human prophet will suffice.

    GOD bless you.
    Peace.

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      hawk99
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      Following the Islamic logic of ? successive revelations ?, according to which the Christian religion came to supplant the Hebrew one, and Islam came to replace both, it would seem appropriate that Jesus announced the Messenger of the third and ultimate religion, whose name is Muhammad. There is only one problem in the Gospel, except for the false prophets who are expected to rise after him, Jesus does not announce anyone resembling Muhammad.

      There is no problem, the Quran is sufficient for those who believe In Allah and the last day.
      They have their book we have ours.

      God bless

      peace

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        runninglikezebras
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        Peace runninglikezebras.

        A more logical question will be

        Where did Qoran come from?

        I think you must have not been reading my posts. I have posted a map showing the origins of Islam in detail, even twice. Proto-islam started when judeo-nazarenes started indoctrating their Arab neighbours. More specifically those in the Syrian desert eventually fleeing to Medina.

        http//rootsofislamtruehistory.com/subpages/Genealogy-Islam.PNG

        Is it from GOD?

        It is. The original message is from God. The Uthmanic Quran you dispose of today however contains many human adaptations.

        Then you can proceed to ask

        Who came after Jesus to deliver Qoran?

        We don't know. All we know is Muhammad seems to have been influenced by a "waraqa" of Nazarene origin (making it probable Khadidja was Nazarene as well as she was related to "waraqa&quot. Soon after these events Muhammad became the commander of the Arabo-Nazarenes making attacks on the Holy Land.

        The name Ahmed ,Mohammeed. Mustafa....All become irrelevant .A human prophet will suffice.

        GOD bless you.
        Peace.

        I agree the names are irrelevant. Quran hardly mentions those. All I was proving here is that one of the few occurrences of it in Quran has been tampered with to make Muhammad the paraclete Jesus was talking about.

        Peace

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          runninglikezebras
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          There is no problem, the Quran is sufficient for those who believe In Allah and the last day.
          They have their book we have ours.

          God bless

          peace

          Well the ones facing Mecca will be easy to distinct once that day breaks and we get resurrected. One would better be certain that is the right direction before that day breaks.

          Peace

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            good_logic
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            Peace runninglikezebras.

            I have read your map. Not sure what to make of it. same as any other map.Does not tell you much. Needs study.

            I do not agree with your views here. Qoran tells me a different story.

            You say

            All I was proving here is that one of the few occurrences of it in Quran has been tampered with to make Muhammad the paraclete Jesus was talking about.

            I am afraid I have not seen you prove anything. You pasted a point of view and someone s analysis and opinion.

            GOD bless you.
            Peace

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              runninglikezebras
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              Peace runninglikezebras.

              I have read your map. Not sure what to make of it. same as any other map.Does not tell you much. Needs study.

              I do not agree with your views here. Qoran tells me a different story.

              You say

              All I was proving here is that one of the few occurrences of it in Quran has been tampered with to make Muhammad the paraclete Jesus was talking about.

              I am afraid I have not seen you prove anything. You pasted a point of view and someone s analysis and opinion.

              GOD bless you.
              Peace

              Well I happen to think that point of view and academical research is correct. As you said, you have some research to do it seems. Maybe with some more study you will find out what the meaning is of "having all the traits of being an interpolation".

              Peace

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                good_logic
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                Peace runninglikezebras.

                I have done my research of Qoran. I am certain , the mushaf I have, does not contain any contradictions or interpolations.

                But your map ,I said ,it needs more study.

                Also thinking something is correct and being certain something is correct are two different things.

                I am also certain Jesus came after Moses and Muhammed came after Jesus. Each one of them bringing a scripture.

                Qoran is the last of these scriptures.
                GOD bless you.
                Peace.

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                  runninglikezebras
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                  Well I am certain it has been changed. More and more contradictions are coming to light every day as the result of academic research of the Quran and historical events of that time.

                  Why on earth are you worshipping a book? The Uthmanic Quran was written by human hands that were not always free from corruption. Realizing the Uthmanic codex contains changes compared to the original message should be no danger to your faith, unless you are deifying a book of course.

                  I guess worshipping a book and a stone goes hand in hand these days.

                  Peace

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                    good_logic
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                    Peace runninglikezebras.

                    For someone who is certain,you seem to be making assumptions about me?

                    I am looking at what you are bringing, but so far it amounts to opinions,misunderstanding of Qoran and no concrete evidence.

                    Look at how many times you have asked for proper evidence from others!!!

                    Surely you can see for yourself that you have not provided proper evidence?

                    Do you expect people to just believe "Educated opinions " without proofs?

                    I am open to all views, but that s all they are at the moment ,until hard evidence is provided.

                    It does not mean you give up. Keep trying,you never know.

                    GOD bless you.
                    Peace.

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                      huruf
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                      Deifying a book? Would you rather we would deify runninglikezebras?

                      I think I am starting to distinguish your lines.

                      Salaam

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                        Scribbler
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                        Peace.

                        Runninglikezebras, you say that the Uthmanic Quran was written by human hands that were not always free from corruption.

                        And your history books are free from corruption?

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                          FreedomStands
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                          Peace runninglikezebras.

                          For someone who is certain,you seem to be making assumptions about me?

                          I am looking at what you are bringing, but so far it amounts to opinions,misunderstanding of Qoran and no concrete evidence.

                          Look at how many times you have asked for proper evidence from others!!!

                          Surely you can see for yourself that you have not provided proper evidence?

                          Do you expect people to just believe "Educated opinions " without proofs?

                          I am open to all views, but that s all they are at the moment ,until hard evidence is provided.

                          It does not mean you give up. Keep trying,you never know.

                          GOD bless you.
                          Peace.

                          I am so certain about so many things, and about the things of which I am certain, I am so pleased with myself regarding them. Ah! That was a joyful sigh, for certain!

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                            fye
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                            I think you must have not been reading my posts. I have posted a map showing the origins of Islam in detail, even twice. Proto-islam started when judeo-nazarenes started indoctrating their Arab neighbours. More specifically those in the Syrian desert eventually fleeing to Medina.

                            http//rootsofislamtruehistory.com/subpages/Genealogy-Islam.PNG

                            It is. The original message is from God. The Uthmanic Quran you dispose of today however contains many human adaptations.

                            We don't know. All we know is Muhammad seems to have been influenced by a "waraqa" of Nazarene origin (making it probable Khadidja was Nazarene as well as she was related to "waraqa&quot. Soon after these events Muhammad became the commander of the Arabo-Nazarenes making attacks on the Holy Land.

                            I agree the names are irrelevant. Quran hardly mentions those. All I was proving here is that one of the few occurrences of it in Quran has been tampered with to make Muhammad the paraclete Jesus was talking about.

                            Peace

                            yo this is backward

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