SHIA CHALLENGING QUESTIONS
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That is why criticizers of Islam are right in a way to be wary of Islam. (Sectarian) Muslims are a growing global threat when such that you referred to begin to be radicalized and think that they have to mobilize and become activists. The thinking is there already in their mind with their treatment of you and it only takes that they realize it physically even if they have already killed you spiritually with their minds. To think a wish to kill someone with your mind is equal to actually killing a person in God's opinion when it comes to the instinctive activation in your mind and which is very detrimental for your Spiritual well-being.
Sectarianism is the worst kind of delusion that you can have. It is more about group identity than to actually reflect upon what it is that they believe, they put peer pressure upon themselves, spurring and rallying each other. It is this arousal that is dangerous.
It works the same also in non-religious contexts such as radical right- or left-wing political groups. Yet I think Islam is worse than those groups because the systematic spread of that kind of sectarian Islam and because the leader "god" is strong and powerful and people respect him so much that they die for him, even if it is a god out of their fantasies and does not represent the Rabb/Sustainer. Rather they rely on some madmen and their crazy interpretation of a scripture and compilation of written hearsay that is ascribed to a person portrayed like a loony (Muhammad).
After detachment from it I wonder how one single person can believe in that nonsense. But sheep follow their shepherds. Humans are incredibly gullible, and their radicalization becomes very hazardous for the communities, just behold Daesh (ISIS) which contains a bunch of brainwashed fools who are gullible enough to believe in their delusion that they fight for the right cause. In their deluded mind, they do think that they do the right thing, that they serve their god, because they follow the scriptures to the point and they have aroused themselves Bodily so much that this has made them blind to reason. The only way to change them is exposure to something else, very psychological penetration of the thick shell covering their mind.
One cannot fight fire with fire, so communities need to change the approach.
In general, those who are Shiites are more relaxed and controlled. It can have to do with that Shiite hadith contains much propaganda about intelligence. I have studied Shia Islam to some extent. It is more foul to lose your control in behavior in Shia Islam overall. They are usually arrogant and proud, but at least way friendlier.
Well in many cases Yesua would have called them hypocrites. But it is often unfair to call them hypocrites because they do not even have a solid foundation beneath them. I would simply call it plain delusion. That is what the word "kafar" means in Quran too, i.e. delusion. It means you are lost in your mind and just choose something irrational and illogical to believe in.
Be safe
AmenuelI suspect you are creating your own little sect on your forum.
As for the sectarians nothing can be more lethal and destructive like statism (https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=rgAAdadSb4I , https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=FcumJNNX0qc) but you wouldn't believe that would you? Isis would be nothing if they did not fight for the "Islamic state" - it has nothing to do with religion... -
Hello mmmm,
No I am not creating my own little sect on the other forum. It is continuing what faith Abraham was the founding father for. The data on the forum follows the discoveries I made on Quran and it does hence not fit the definition of sect which implies a diversion like a branch on a tree, but this is proclaiming to be 'Who Is' just the same as Abraham, Ishmael, Isaac, Jacob and their offspring.
I say the same on this forum and that is what all is about, i.e. the Body's instincts is your worst problem you have. And the "God phenomenon" is symbiotic, you have to be 'Who Is' in unity. It is not my idea but that is what 'allahu ahad' means.
Be safe
Amenuel -
As Salaamu Alaykum
Its been a long time since I've been in this forum, people know me when I debated the 3 Salaat Theory
http//www.freewebs.com/tawhiyd/3salaattheoryexposed.htm
I came here to share a document that I wrote, that I'm sure a lot of people will benefit from or enjoy. The document is entitled SHIA CHALLENGING QUESTIONS, that exposes the Shi'ite sectarian school of thought. You have the choice to download the document in English or Arabic. You can use this as a combat tool kit to refute, intellectually destroy the Shia school of thought. To download either click on the link or copy and paste the link in a browser.
SHIA CHALLENGING QUESTIONS (English)
https//app.box.com/s/ycavzcgbbwvp4ke7xrqzrlxsb6e543yiSHIA CHALLENGING QUESTIONS (Arabic)
https//app.box.com/s/b42mddiog507syphrrm30jf3015fm5rxSalaam,
Al Khidr
Perhaps this article could help too, brother?
It's about the Shia concept of Imamate and how it contradicts the Qur'an.
http//quransmessage.com/articles/imammat%20FM3.htm
Peace.
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Perhaps this article could help too, brother?
It's about the Shia concept of Imamate and how it contradicts the Qur'an.
http//quransmessage.com/articles/imammat%20FM3.htm
Peace.
Shukran for the article that you gave me and I will definitely read it.
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Hello mmmm,
Amenuel,
Would you agree with the following statement "Mind is responsible for the behaviour of the body within it which it resides."?The mind is your "window" towards the World; it can be fed either by the Body or Spirit. Due to satan (the instinct) the tendency is that you follow the Body's influence unless you focus on Spiritual awareness. You have a perfect Spirit in the image of Rabb to your disposal only that it is diminished depending on the Body's affection on your mind. The Body is meant to be all elusive and to fool mankind into believing it is the reality.
There are a variety of instincts; the most relevant have been addressed in the 'Ten Commandments' (ten "stumbling blocks"
• Be attached to who is your Rabb in unity - Tendency to hierarchy and idolatry
• Make no image from either Heaven* (abstract) or Earth* (physical) and worship it - Tendency to materialism, idolatry and hierarchy
• No vain talk - Human tendency towards imagination leading to invented beliefs
• Contemplate - Human tendency to just "go with the flow", so-called "sheephood"
• Be as attached to your neighbor as yourself - Human tendency to favor your own kin
• Do not kill - Human tendency towards emotional behavior and derailed hormone emitting
• Do not commit adultery - The desire to mate because the hormone release is addicting and desirable
• Do not steal - The desire to possess
• Do not give false testimony (do not lie) - The desire to distort the timeline to avoid difficulty or due to greed, may feed or be fed by other detrimental behavior above
• Do not covet your neighbor's things - Human tendency towards jealousy, may feed other detrimental behavior above
All the parameters of the often so-called Mosaic Law are to combat the instinctive drive. They may be interrelated with each other, i.e. they may affect the other, especially the further down the list they appear. Given the age of revelation of these parameters they are quite advanced actually (3500+ years ago) which would not be surprising since they stem from the Rabb as a recommendation to get through with what you are up to. Ironically the ancient decree speaks against materializing God yet people have done so, even made so-called "focal points". Those are remnants from Pagan ignorance which is when you let the Body perception control you.
- The words 'asema' (Heaven) and 'ardh' (Earth) are words not always properly understood because Asema refers to something without mass, a hollow area, void or empty space while ardh means "what is visible". Understanding that one would comprehend that you cannot give God a separate image even if not a mere physical idol. The line above it shows that you should exist in God's affinity.
People have worshiped God(s) in all ages in vain while this is not the Rabb's expectation. And what is only to be considered "worship" is by managing to imitate God successfully, and then they have to separate themselves from the Body's impulses and its vain ideas.
But, it does not imply that a person has to live like a robot. The Rabb had imagination when the many animals were created and so can humans have artistic ideas too. It is a misconception about this perception of faith. It does also not imply that a person is supposed to live in misery, mistreating their Bodies in pursuit of abstention, because these people have not understood the true purpose and are usually obsessed with a religious doctrine.
I hope you see the answer to your question in all that I have written. Your person/soul (nafs) is responsible for your behavior, but your real you is not within that Body but the real you is a Spirit from a very perfect blueprint. If you are not self-aware then you are considered lifeless (al-mowt) and your life's aim goes as according to preset patterns, much like your everyday fellow human in the World who is not awake. You should let your person be a Spiritual being as detached from the Flesh as possible, more specifically it should avoid its primate instincts since Homo Sapiens is a primate with an attached superior Spirit. Yet it is possible to live like an animal, but surely you are better than that?
The best is to utilize the full potential of your superior Spirit, being as good as your Rabb, because you have the potential indeed and only people without knowledge would say otherwise.
Since the advent of the computer and its software it is easy to make a parable; you should avoid the virus called Satan (the instinct) which constantly entices you to disobey your Spirit and exhaust it so you cannot control your Body. Therefore always focus hard on Spiritual depth and control so that your Spirit can control the Body much like a Master controls his dog, for the Master will become tired if he is too mindless to tame the dog before he is exhausted owning the dog and the dog is unmanageable. This may sound crude, but you can think the same about your Body. You have to keep a strong discipline yet you can be lively and not like a sectarian. In fact you will be perceived as more lively than a person who gives in to the Flesh.
You see for whose benefit the "Ten Commandments" are. Not is it for the Rabb but for yourself although obviously the Rabb would love to see people passing the test or otherwise it would be an incredibly small "family", the Children of the Chief (the Children of Israel). Crudely it can be said that the Rabb is breeding "superhuman" Spirits under heavy delusion and deception.
Be safe
Amenuel -
Thanks, Amenuel. I see the answer but I do not agree with you. I think the body is programmed in the best way in order to sustain itself. That's why when we feel hunger we should eat, when we are tired we should sleep etc. - this is how you would maintain health.
The real problem in my opinion is the mind - it controls - body is just a primitive, well programmed piece of hardware. When you identify yourself completely with your mind and forget about the spirit, that's where the problems arise. Many people can control their body's instincs very well - just look at those who diet or excersise regularly. And what about the overweight people - their body is probably telling them to stop eating when the're full but the mind is telling to go on for some reason (not trying to insult people there are also medical conditions etc.) mind is stronger than body, but the spirit should be in charge of both.
I read this a long, long time ago and I think you might like parts of it, since it has many similarities with your "teaching" of what I managed to read on your forum (http//www.truthcontest.com/entries/the-present-with-religion/). There is also this same text without religion.
Thank you for your answer.Wassalam.
Again off the topic "Do not steal - The desire to possess" I cannot agree with you more on this. How do you reconcile your socialist views with this "block"? By definition every government is living off by stealing(tax) and borrowing in the name of unborn people? Unless you think in terms of creating voluntary community that's different then I can inderstand...(Sorry if I bother you with this topic but I consider this to be very important for the spiritual development of a person). Thanks again. -
Thanks, Amenuel. I see the answer but I do not agree with you. I think the body is programmed in the best way in order to sustain itself. That's why when we feel hunger we should eat, when we are tired we should sleep etc. - this is how you would maintain health.
You are welcome, mmmm, although then you will continue to be susceptible to its sharp inclination to delude you since the Body is all but perfect but it is a primate and Quran even says it is a primate "out loud". It can function better as a "tamed animal" by the Spirit but it still has to be constantly watched since it may entice you to something.
But you speak of sleep and hunger but those you have to play along with because otherwise the Body dies. You have to care for the Body like a pet and make sure it is healthy, but there goes the limits and you have to control what it eats and what it does. The human Body is a well-rounded primate species, but never revere the design of it and desire to be it. That is a good piece of advice for you. If you do desire to be it then you have missed a point. You must get familiar with the fact that you are a pristine Spirit clone and you are attached to your Body which is not the real you but it would be like; instead of a Master and his dog, you are both the Master and the dog simultaneously, but you still need to have a strict discipline with it. That may be crudely speaking, but the principle is still correct even though the Homo Sapiens species may be more advanced than the dog, however that only makes it harder because it is harder to control a primate than a dog.
The real problem in my opinion is the mind - it controls - body is just a primitive, well programmed piece of hardware. When you identify yourself completely with your mind and forget about the spirit, that's where the problems arise. Many people can control their body's instincs very well - just look at those who diet or excersise regularly. And what about the overweight people - their body is probably telling them to stop eating when the're full but the mind is telling to go on for some reason (not trying to insult people there are also medical conditions etc.) mind is stronger than body, but the spirit should be in charge of both.
The instincts of the Body are not just to eat or sleep. I thought you read what I pasted from the Ten "Commandments" which is the primary focus. Instinct = Satan in Arabic, and Quran tells you to beware of Satan. You have a deceptive functionality of your Body that is dangerous for you and may make you into a mainstream person who just lives as according to preset conditions. This is why I am implying with all my posting to you that you seem to miss the point with. Eat and sleep you cannot do without while attached to the Body so those you obviously have to continue with.
The Body is not the real you and this is nothing you keep with you if you pass the test of this World, and then you have to make a clear separation with your mind from it since your self is not the Body, even if you are made to believe so based on how you perceive the World being attached to it.
their body is probably telling them to stop eating when the're full but the mind is telling to go on for some reason
No this is wrong. It is the Body that tells them to keep eating while the Spirit may tell them to stop. If an animal has plenty of foods it will simply continue to eat until it is problematic for it to eat more. It eats beyond its optimal level. It does usually however live a life with much movement that it does not matter.
An animal will much like humans also choose a sugary diet without control. There humans have the advantage of their Spirit that can intervene.
Your mind is just your person's/soul's (nafs) perception outwards and your "system interface" towards the World. It can be influenced by either Spirit or Body. Here the wise person makes so that the Spirit has ultimate control over the Body.
Be safe
Amenuel -
OK. I guess we cannot agree on this altough we are saying similar things I think. At least the conclusion is the same that Spirit should have ultimate control over the Body/Mind/both, we just can't agree on the enemy...)
I have read all the stumbling blocks you mentioned but it seems you haven't read my question after selam off the topic?Be well,
Wassalam.