THE TEMPLE OF GOD IN THE QURAN
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I was banned for a month now. May God humble down this people, and then we will be brothers in Islam.God loves those who are 554? humble towards the believers, proud towards all who deny the truth who strive hard in God's cause, and do not fear to be censured by anyone who might censure them such is God's favour, which He grants unto whom He wills. And God is infinite, all-knowing.
1784 Say "Everyone acts in a manner peculiar to himself - and your Sustainer is fully aware as to who has chosen the best path."
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All your answers are in the verses of Quran. Reread the original post and the additional posted verses, because you did not see anything, and it is not I who is putting a veil over your eyes. Focus in the Quran verses not in my words. Do not look for the truth in my words, that will be associating (shirk); look for it in the verses of Quran. What is there and in the additional posted verses is all that has been shown to me from the Quran regarding the temple?s location by my lord, and that is enough for me. Read the verses from your Quran, at night when there is less distraction, as God advises, and after praying to your lord to show you the truth, and wait, and be patient. If God wills, HE will give you what you want, if you are truthful.
4144?Say "Unto all who have attained to faith, this is a guidance and a source of health; but as for those who will not believe in their ears is deafness, and so it remains obscure to them they are , the while it only adds to the ruin of evildoers.
My posts are not to make the blind see; they are just an invitation to read Quran. Then, God will open the book to whomever He wills of His humble slaves, and show them the truth. And, as for those that the Quran does not suffice you/meets your requirements, ask your Lord to came and point the location of the temple to you, and if He does, please share it with me.
The temple is an essential part of the Covenant of obedience for those who truly believe; As It was for the Children of Israel their temple. The one that after years of moving around in the lands of Israel, ended up being built of stone in Jerusalem, then demolished, then rebuilt, and then destroyed again and its foundation given to another people. The word fulfilled, and the temple was taken from them until they say; blessed be the one that comes in the name of the lord, which includes P. Mohamed. Therefore, if the Jews were to obey the word of God, then they will have a temple. However, it will be the House chosen by The Wise, God, for this generation. Because, the location of the temple is whatever God ordains it to be, and He can change it at will. Therefore, for those who lost it, you should hurry in finding it, because you are at fault in many of what you are commanded.
Read your Quran, Torah, Bible, and Gospel, God will show you the light among the darkness of man corruption. I am not responsible for you.
May God increase our knowledge and give us wisdom.
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(427) Thus have We revealed to you an Arabic Qur?an that you may warn the Mother of the Towns and those around it, and warn of the Day of Gathering, in which there is no doubt, a part will be in paradise and a part will be in the Blaze.
The Israelites did not speak Arabic , neither the Egyptians, nor the Assyrians, the Babylonians, the Romans, or the Persians. According to ancient maps, the only place left is the desert of the Araba, known nowadays as the Arabian Desert. So, for those who have lost what has been ordained for this generation of souls, search there for what you have lost.
May God increase our knowledge and give us wisdom.
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as for those who say that Hj is argument
hj(as root word) pilgrimage, visit, head fracture, proof, argue, year(hjj).
hj(noun)pilgrimage
haj (verb) to visit, to argue.
hjh/t (noun) visitation , argument.However, this does not mean that alhj, hj, hj albayt (pilgrimage), shall be translated as argument. Take the English word ?race,? it has two total different meanings. 1 swift movement run, compete, competition, etc. 2 related to people lineage, clan, subspecies, variety, etc. Then, the meaning of the word in a verse totally depends on the discourse surrounding it (context) to determine the exact meaning. Therefore, the word HJ is no different, except that the discourse surrounding it, it is the Quran as a whole, and the meaning is clarified by Allah.
Use your reason brothers. People do not take provisions to an argument, argue in special months, has sex during arguments, hunt animals, or do fishing. Do not let the shaitans delude your mind.
May God increase our knowledge and give us wisdom.
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@Wakas, don't know that you like to debate a brickwall and a hardcore sunni takfiri to boot bravo To claim that some brother who has been doing his best to facilitate the study of the Qur'an easier with all the tools and other resources, as someone inspired by shaitan, is just mindbogling.
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" O ye who believe! Enter into Islam whole-heartedly; and follow not the footsteps of the evil one; for he is to you an avowed enemy".(220. Does "Udkhulu" in this verse means enter into a physical islam?Re Maqam Ibrahim- does it mean status, standing or stance of Ibrahim ( regarding The One-ness of Allah)? And how can one enter a holy foot print in a large bird-cage be entered into and be safe?
What makes you so certain that Ibrahim and his wife and son was ever in Makkah or near it? Have you a quranic evidence regarding this? Please check out this verse and reflect on it.
" [bBut We had not given them Books which they could study, nor sent messengers to them before thee as Warners. (3444). So, if you think the messenger of Allah Muhammad resided in Makkah, you would know from this verse that there were never any other messenger/warner sent to the area prior to him.
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" [bBut We had not given them Books which they could study, nor sent messengers to them before thee as Warners. (3444). So, if you think the messenger of Allah Muhammad resided in Makkah, you would know from this verse that there were never any other messenger/warner sent to the area prior to him.
First none of the books previous to quran is addressed to the Arabs and world.
Second the prophets that walked in the arab lands before muhamad did not have as their mission to be warners to the arabs or world, if you but know their story.
Third The temple was not ordained to be built for the Arabs, but it was built by Abraham's own initiative.not because Jesus walked in the cities of the Samaritans means that he was a messenger sent unto them as warner.
May God increase our knowledge and give us wisdom.
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First none of the books previous to quran is addressed to the Arabs and world.
Second the prophets that walked in the arab lands before muhamad did not have as their mission to be warners to the arabs or world, if you but know their story.
Third The temple was not ordained to be built for the Arabs, but it was built by Abraham's own initiative.not because Jesus walked in the cities of the Samaritans means that he was a messenger sent unto them as warner.
May God increase our knowledge and give us wisdom.
Firstly, I would like to remind you that all of Allah's messages/books are addressed to all man-kind in their respective languages and by messengers from their own people. Secondly, every messenger is obliged to convey the message of Allah to anyone who is in contact with them. Please remember that messengers were/are sent as mercy to mankind. For you to claim that Ibrahim the messenger of Allah was living in Makkah with his family and yet ignored the local inhabitants when it comes to conveying Allah's message, is borne of sheer ignorance. Are the local Arab inhabitants Neanderthals or sub-human? Not deserving or worthy of being told the truth from their creator? Here is a clear verse informing us that RasulAllah Ibrahim was appointed an Imam for man-kind.
" Waithi ibtala ibraheema rabbuhu bikalimatin faatammahunna qala innee jaAAiluka lilnnasi imaman qala wamin thurriyyatee qala la yanalu AAahdee alththalimeena".
"And (remember) when his Lord tried Abraham with (His) commands, and he fulfilled them, He said Lo! I have appointed thee a leader for mankind. (Abraham) said And of my offspring (will there be leaders)? He said My covenant includeth not wrong-doers". ( 2124).
Now, according to your reasoning, would an Imam for mankind appointed by Allah failed to do what he was sent for? Even those of us mere mortals who consider himself/herself muslim and mukmin would find it their duty to remind people about Allah's message where-ever they are living when they are asked. For people can see others from their deeds and actions not what they labelled themselves. Don't you think that the Meccans would be curious about Ibrahim and his family residing among themselves and no social interactions between them.
In respect of your second point, you seem to be singling out prophet Muhammad to be put on a pedestal to be adored over and above other prophets/messengers, even though Ibrahim and Musa were called Imam (Leader) for mankind.
In respect of your 3rd point, it is possible that prophet Ibrahim and his son built The Kaaba or Cube building on his own initiative but it is highly unlikely that a properly guided messenger would erect such Idol to mislead people, considering that he believed in idol-free way of life.
Concerning your other point regarding the Arabs and Arabic language, Rasul-Allah Muhammad may not be the first to received revelation in Arabic, as the word Arabic may means other thing such as "clear language". It is worth considering as we can see in this verse
"Wamin qablihi kitabu moosa imaman warahmatan wahatha kitabun musaddiqun lisanan AAarabiyyan liyunthira allatheena thalamoo wabushra lilmuhsineena'.
" When before it there was the Scripture of Moses, an example and a mercy; and this is a confirming Scripture in the Arabic language, that it may warn those who do wrong and bring good tidings for the righteous.
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As for your assertion that Isa al Masih is Jesus, is highly questionable, whereas Isa of the Qur'an is a real historical figure, Jesus on the other hand is a mythical being copied from other older religions and christianized him.
By the way, regarding verses disputing presence of prophets/messengers in Makkah or its surrounding prior to Muhammad can be found in these 3444 (already cited), 32/3, 362-6 and 2846.
Didn't you say that you have read seven translations of The Qur'an? There is a saying that , "it is not how much you have read, but how much you have grasped". As muslims, Allah and his messengers encourage us to seek knowledge, to observe, to listen and to read and take the best or the truth from what we have heard and seen for the truth is from Allah. Being quranists we have to use our minds and hearts, which means to use our senses and faculty of reasoning in order to received guidance as well as being sincere in our words and actions.
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Firstly, I would like to remind you that all of Allah's messages/books are addressed to all man-kind in their respective languages and by messengers from their own people.
Show me evidence from torah, psalms, gospel, quran, if you are truthful.
to claim that Ibrahim the messenger of Allah was living in Makkah with his family and yet ignored the local inhabitants when it comes to conveying Allah's message, is borne of sheer ignorance.
Show your evidence that the temple was built for the makans, or if even maka existed as a city at the time. Maybe Abraham chose that place because it was so barren that very few would be interested about bothering it there, only God Knows. Who said Abraham lived in maka, first read the Holy Books, then come with your claims, so who is the ignorant here.
I have appointed thee a leader for mankind. said And of my offspring? He said My covenant includeth not wrong-doers".
If it does not includes the wrongdoers from his offspring, what makes you think that includes the people of maka, if such people existed at the time.
Matthew 39-10 9 and do not think to say to yourselves, ?We have Abraham as our father.? 10 For I say to you that God is able to raise up children to Abraham from these stones.
Show your evidence, where it says that he was going to be a, leader/example to follow, exclusive for his generation of souls.Now, according to your reasoning
I do not judge according to my desires like you, but according to what I have between my hands, Torah-bible-Quran.
In respect of your second point, you seem to be singling out prophet Muhammad to be put on a pedestal to be adored over and above other prophets/messengers, even though Ibrahim and Musa were called Imam (Leader) for mankind.
You are the one doing what you accuse me of. I do not make difference between prophets. to me they are no more than humans graced by our Lord, and their reward is with Allah, I do not owe them anything.
it is possible that prophet Ibrahim and his son built The Kaaba or Cube building on his own initiative but it is highly unlikely that a properly guided messenger would erect such Idol to mislead people, considering that he believed in idol-free way of life.
temples dedicated to the worship of Allah are not an Idols you ignorant folk. If people Idolizes them, it is not the fault of the builders.
Being quranists we have to use our minds and hearts,
I am not a disbeliever quranist. Quranist have no basis in the quran. I am a servant of Allah, a Muslim.
Concerning your other point regarding the Arabs and Arabic language, Rasul-Allah Muhammad may not be the first to received revelation in Arabic, as the word Arabic may means other thing such as "clear language".
If we twist the words to fit our desires, then we can get whatever we want.
and this is a confirming Scripture in the Arabic language
This does not means that the previous scripture was in the same Arabic language. Go ask the Ch. of Israel, they will lough of you.
As for your assertion that Isa al Masih is Jesus, is highly questionable, whereas Isa of the Qur'an is a real historical figure, Jesus on the other hand is a mythical being copied from other older religions and christianized him.
This are your own inventions, which contradict the main Idea/purpose in the word of God. Beginning in the torah and ending with the Quran. The first confirms the second, and the second confirms the first, one is evidence of the other, if you but knew it. I only exclude shaitan Paul's writings in the bible, and letters attributed to P. Jesus disciples.
hich means to use our senses and faculty of reasoning in order to received guidance as well as being sincere in our words and actions.
You use to much poetry, but little evidence.
May God increase our knowledge and give us wisdom.
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Show me evidence from torah, psalms, gospel, quran, if you are truthful.Show your evidence that the temple was built for the makans, or if even maka existed as a city at the time. Maybe Abraham chose that place because it was so barren that very few would be interested about bothering it there, only God Knows. Who said Abraham lived in maka, first read the Holy Books, then come with your claims, so who is the ignorant here.
If it does not includes the wrongdoers from his offspring, what makes you think that includes the people of maka, if such people existed at the time.
Matthew 39-10 9 and do not think to say to yourselves, ?We have Abraham as our father.? 10 For I say to you that God is able to raise up children to Abraham from these stones.
Show your evidence, where it says that he was going to be a, leader/example to follow, exclusive for his generation of souls.I do not judge according to my desires like you, but according to what I have between my hands, Torah-bible-Quran. You are the one doing what you accuse me of. I do not make difference between prophets. to me they are no more than humans graced by our Lord, and their reward is with Allah, I do not owe them anything. temples dedicated to the worship of Allah are not an Idols you ignorant folk. If people Idolizes them, it is not the fault of the builders.
I am not a disbeliever quranist. Quranist have no basis in the quran. I am a servant of Allah, a Muslim.If we twist the words to fit our desires, then we can get whatever we want.
This does not means that the previous scripture was in the same Arabic language. Go ask the Ch. of Israel, they will lough of you.This are your own inventions, which contradict the main Idea/purpose in the word of God. Beginning in the torah and ending with the Quran. The first confirms the second, and the second confirms the first, one is evidence of the other, if you but knew it. I only exclude shaitan Paul's writings in the bible, and letters attributed to P. Jesus disciples.You use to much poetry, but little evidence.May God increase our knowledge and give us wisdom.
Why would I give you evidence from Torah, Psalm and Gospel when you know none of the genuine Quranist believe in the Bible whether it is The New or The Old Testament? We are discussing evidence from the Qur'an which you totally ignored. For your information The Old Testament is not The Taurat nor is The New Testament = The Injil.
Since you totally ignored all the evidence from The Qur'an, I shall not engage in any thread that you post in, I don't enjoy wasting my time talking to a brickwall. But before I leave you to your Bible, I would just like to remind you to learn 1. What is the duty of a messenger. 2. Has Allah's message over the millennia changed in substance at all ( you have quoted some verses regarding this) and finally, please read 6114-115 and think.
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Like people here know what Torateh and Injeel are.
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please read 6114-115 and think.
I will recommend you to read too, but the whole Quran, and to ask God to give you the truth. Because the truth is something we cannot get unless it is given.
6112 And thus We have made for every prophet an enemy - devils from mankind and jinn, inspiring to one another decorative speech in delusion. But if your Lord had willed, they would not have done it, so leave them and that which they invent.
May God increase our knowledge and give us wisdom.
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MAQAM, the word that in 2125 is translated as ?position,station, standing?, translates in 1071 as staying, in 2739 as seat/seating place, in 37164 as rank-position-status, in 5107 as place (occupied by somebody), in 3313 as place ( that could be occupied by somebody), etc.More verses
2225 BEHOLD, as for those who are bent on denying the truth and bar/deviate from the path of God and from the Inviolable House of Worship which We have set up for all people alike - those who dwell there and those who come from abroad - and all who seek to profane it by evildoing such shall We cause to taste grievous suffering
There are some corrupters that claim that the inviolable house could be any place that meet certain monotheistic criteria. However, according to the previous verse, the inviolable house can only be the one set up by God for all people, and not one set up by any avaricious corrupter.
As for those who claim that HaJ is argument
Nobody shaves his head during arguments, and though maybe those claiming such nonsense are pulling their hair in frustration during this argument, I guess they still have plenty left as to call it shaved. Also, I have not heard of people taking animal for sacrifice during arguments.May God increase our knowledge and give us wisdom.
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2127 And when Abraham and Ishmael were raising the foundations of the Temple, "O our Sustainer! Accept Thou this from us for, verily, Thou alone art all-hearing, all-knowing! 2128 "O our Sustainer! Make us surrender ourselves unto Thee, and make out of our offspring a community that shall surrender itself unto Thee, and show us our ways of worship, and accept our repentance for, verily, Thou alone art the Acceptor of Repentance, the Dispenser of Grace!
2129 "O our Sustainer! Raise up from the midst of our offspring an apostle from among themselves, who shall convey unto them Thy messages, and impart unto them revelation as well as wisdom, and cause them to grow in purity for, verily, Thou alone art almighty, truly wise!"2127 clearly states that the foundation and temple was built by Abraham and Ishmael. Therefore, the corrupter reformist claim, that the temple is the one in Jerusalem, has no basis. The temple of Jerusalem was going to be built by P. David, but because of his sin it was not accepted from him, and it was his son P. Salomon who finally built the foundation, and the first temple. Today, only the foundation of the first Jerusalem temple remains, because the Romans did not leave a stone over a stone of the second temple, and on top of it a Muslim Mosque.
According to 2129 the apostle/prophet was to preach to the people around the temple. There is no evidence that proves that prophet Muhamad preached around Jerusalem. In fact, the only claim that he went to Jerusalem is in a story of a vision, in which he was raised to heaven from the foundation of the temple in Jerusalem. And, it is said that it is the reason why Muslims built the Mosque over the Jerusalem foundation.
May God increase our knowledge and give us wisdom.
