The proof of 3 Salat in Quran

HP_TECH

Yes i kneel first and then prostration, but i do not stay on my knees. Yes i will search more about this.

As I read it is not only for back, every point is for something else, my head behind my ears gets swollen and i have pimples on my head where hair is, and doctor said it is dangerous, but they do not say what is is. They give me antibiotic for 2 months and after that it comes back, sometimes i have pain and my head is swollen. The pimples have some fluid in them, but it is not fat, more like water. So I pray to Allah to cure me and i take garlic as antibiotic, that helps too. Maybe ruqya will help, you never know, i have read such thinks can come from jinn.

Aww man that's unfortunate to hear. Seek help with Allah He is All-Healer.
I think that if it is pimples you should avoid the ruqya, you need a treatment that specifically targets the root cause of your reoccurring break outs. I doubt ruqya treatment/procedure will have any lasting impactful effect on treating your scalp pimples.

You should research natural or herbal treatments for scalp pimples. Google EFFECTIVE treatments for scalp pimples or treatments for pimples on the head.
Here are some interesting links

http//noskinproblems.com/pimples-on-scalp-or-scalp-acne/
http//www.healscalp.com

PS please do not fall into superstition and blame Jinn

Wakas

As I read it is not only for back, every point is for something else, my head behind my ears gets swollen and i have pimples on my head where hair is, and doctor said it is dangerous, but they do not say what is is. They give me antibiotic for 2 months and after that it comes back, sometimes i have pain and my head is swollen. The pimples have some fluid in them, but it is not fat, more like water. So I pray to Allah to cure me and i take garlic as antibiotic, that helps too.

You may be referring to your lymph nodes being swollen, possible sign of body trying to fight off an infection.

I recommend doing your own research, e.g. the links above.

Getting plenty of different fruits/veg in your diet is important. They are full of natural pathogen fighters.

If it was me, I'd consider using oral probiotic supplement, which are nature's antibiotics, and topical applications iodine based shampoo/rinse, and/or colloidal silver gel/ointment.

The_Guided_One

You may be referring to your lymph nodes being swollen, possible sign of body trying to fight off an infection.

I recommend doing your own research, e.g. the links above.

Getting plenty of different fruits/veg in your diet is important. They are full of natural pathogen fighters.

If it was me, I'd consider using oral probiotic supplement, which are nature's antibiotics, and topical applications iodine based shampoo/rinse, and/or colloidal silver gel/ointment.

Aww man that's unfortunate to hear. Seek help with Allah He is All-Healer.
I think that if it is pimples you should avoid the ruqya, you need a treatment that specifically targets the root cause of your reoccurring break outs. I doubt ruqya treatment/procedure will have any lasting impactful effect on treating your scalp pimples.

You should research natural or herbal treatments for scalp pimples. Google EFFECTIVE treatments for scalp pimples or treatments for pimples on the head.
Here are some interesting links

http//noskinproblems.com/pimples-on-scalp-or-scalp-acne/
http//www.healscalp.com

PS please do not fall into superstition and blame Jinn

Thank you for advice wakas and hp tech, I do think i have to tell you a story about jinn, because they are real and as Muslims we should protect our self and believe that only Allah can protect you from evil, i know this is off topic, but because you mention superstition i have to tell you this story

lymph nodes swollen up i have read can be by jinn,that is what i read and i am not superstition, i woke up 7 years ago at night and i was looking at myself and had no control of my body. I was looking at myself from the corner of the room. I did feel my body walk and i felt very strong, not human strong, something like i could separate somebody arms from his body. So i walked to the window and opened the window, so i heard a voice saying to me, jump, someway i still had some control of my body and i said no. Then that thing what was in me started screaming. It was very angry that i had my own will and did not wanted to listen. At that time i was sleeping in a house full of relatives and nobody was brave enough to come to me except my mother and when she hugged me, i came back in my body. I was scared of sleeping alone and as a 25 year old man i went and slept between my parents. So my mother went to a women with my shirt, to help me and to not be scared, because i was very scared and did not even wanted to sleep, being scared that i could wake up and not be me. Now i read such people who need stuff from you to cure you can do a lot of harm to you. Because of this and what i have done the following years with my life, i became Muslim, so i believe such things happen and Allah lets it happen. You can believe it or not, but i am not a liar and such things are present. I come from a land where many blood is spilled and where people do magic and talk with jinns. That is why i think i will go to ruqya, because they pray from Quran and i have seen strange things, you can see that on youtube. Several years after that i became a very bad man, most men would get scared if i told them what i have done, but one and half year ago i got 3 dreams in a row and i changed my life. I even located to the country where i was born and i started with reading Quran and put my faith in Allahs hands. I stopped seeing women and for more that one year i did not do any haram, i do not drink, party and all the stuff i did before. I became Muslim.
3 weeks ago i wanted to go to sleep and i almost fell a sleep, when my mother came in my room at 3 o'clock at night, so i said wassup mother, she said, this bread really works on my nerves and went out of my room. I thought this can not be my mother, this is bad, then i felt paralyzed and could not move, i felt hands at my neck and something was chocking me, i could not see anyone, and i was at the point of dying. I was not scared, the only what i am scared of is Allah, i know most people say, i am not scared, but they are in some kind of way scared. I really was not scared of dying, and i said Allahu Ekber, i was ready to die, and i said it twice and that thing was gone. One of the dreams i had one and half year ago, i felt a presence next to me, something like a father, better than my father, he said to me search keys and showed me keys, the keys are not keys for opening a door, no it was for changing car tires, i think 7 car wrenches. It was a command and i did not even looked who was next to me, it was not necessary. And believe me i am not the type that follows orders, even my father when he says something i may or may not listen to him, but this was different. I said yes i will search the keys and from that day i search keys and when this jinn wanted to kill me was just a test from Allah, to see if i get it. And i only said Allahu Ekber and it was gone and i went to sleep as if it did not happen, i was not scared and i felt 2 minutes later in a deep sleep. You do not have to believe me, but there are things that happen and sometimes, you must learn and live life in a haram way to get real guidance. It happened to me. Feeling this presence beside me and giving me a command, it is the best thing what happened to me and i know Allah is looking at me and he sees me how i work to get a better man and a real Muslim. And I know some people did not had much experience in life, but i did, from a young age i have seen things that most people only see in movies. And most people can never understand such things, they grew up protected by their fathers and mothers, so the real truth and horrors in life they only can see in a movie, but for some people it is reality. I pray to Allah to protect me and he protects me. Also the commandment i got and why i already knew who that was,is because I think as a child i was in a coma for 3 months and i came back.I might have a connection that i do not remember. I tested my iq and it is above 120. That is in most cases not so high with people who were so long in coma. I do think that we can not see Allah, but we can feel Him and i believe i have felt that and I think i knew Him from the day when i was a child and in coma. It might sound crazy, but such presence not many people have felt, so i really do not care, i feel guided.

I am not sure about what kind of problem i have with my health, but i ask Allah to cure me, and the swollen parts are not so swollen anymore, still i am thinking of going to ruqya, it is healing with Quran. About vitamins you are probably right wakas, for the last month i did not eat many fruits and when i ate fruit a lot, i had no problems. These scalp bumps i am not sure about, because it is not itchy and i think it is more likely what wakas says some kind of infection. I will research what it might be, still i think it can be from jinn, because this woman who has my t shirt might have done something and maybe the jinn are attacking my health. One of the things described as health issue done by by jinns to humans is this what i have, and doctors say it is dangerous, but will not tell me what it is. I appreciate you have taken time to send me links, thanks. And i will look into it. Peace

Comrox

I am not sure about what kind of problem i have with my health, but i ask Allah to cure me, and the swollen parts are not so swollen anymore, still i am thinking of going to ruqya, it is healing with Quran. About vitamins you are probably right wakas, for the last month i did not eat many fruits and when i ate fruit a lot, i had no problems. These scalp bumps i am not sure about, because it is not itchy and i think it is more likely what wakas says some kind of infection. I will research what it might be, still i think it can be from jinn, because this woman who has my t shirt might have done something and maybe the jinn are attacking my health. One of the things described as health issue done by by jinns to humans is this what i have, and doctors say it is dangerous, but will not tell me what it is. I appreciate you have taken time to send me links, thanks. And i will look into it. Peace

Has your doctor given you no treatment options? ??? -\

lostINtheWORLD

I am not sure about what kind of problem i have with my health, but i ask Allah to cure me, and the swollen parts are not so swollen anymore, still i am thinking of going to ruqya, it is healing with Quran. About vitamins you are probably right wakas, for the last month i did not eat many fruits and when i ate fruit a lot, i had no problems. These scalp bumps i am not sure about, because it is not itchy and i think it is more likely what wakas says some kind of infection. I will research what it might be, still i think it can be from jinn, because this woman who has my t shirt might have done something and maybe the jinn are attacking my health. One of the things described as health issue done by by jinns to humans is this what i have, and doctors say it is dangerous, but will not tell me what it is. I appreciate you have taken time to send me links, thanks. And i will look into it. Peace

My Bosnian friend, I think you should visit a pychiatrist.

The_Guided_One

My Bosnian friend, I think you should visit a pychiatrist.

We are no friends, and i would like you to stop commenting to my posts, as i said some people just sit at their pc and think they know it all, trying to act wise, but i clearly showed you many times in these few days that you are not a match to me. I expected a comment from you, because you wait for a story like this to say stupid things. But when you have to answer questions in hadith section, you do not answer them. Also i noticed that you do not have much knowledge about Quran, so i do not think you are a Muslim, i think you come to this forum to spread nonsense. Not one post from you is something i would say what a smart person, all non sense. As Hp tech said in this post to you, stop talking to me, i will ignore you from now.

Has your doctor given you no treatment options? ??? -\

Yes antibiotics, and i had to take them 2 months long and that has happened 2 times, i am trying to use a lot of garlic and i will eat more fruit and honey.

lostINtheWORLD

But when you have to answer questions in hadith section, you do not answer them.

Of course I answered them. Look in your thread before accuse me.

hanslan

we have a time range for fajr and Isha prayer,

Salam brother. The time range for fajr and isha is wusta. A short period where we need to be mindful of, hence 'leave everything behind when we encounter this time period to do the solat' (this is stated in surah jumaat). Maghrib is direction, Zuhr is a time to rest during noon especially under a hot sun, asr is time mentioned in surah al-Asr - where time waits for no man and we are losing time if we procastinate. Peace.

The_Guided_One

Of course I answered them. Look in your thread before accuse me.

you still have 4more questions and i already replied to you on the 6 you answered

The_Guided_One

Salam brother. The time range for fajr and isha is wusta. A short period where we need to be mindful of, hence 'leave everything behind when we encounter this time period to do the solat' (this is stated in surah jumaat). Maghrib is direction, Zuhr is a time to rest during noon especially under a hot sun, asr is time mentioned in surah al-Asr - where time waits for no man and we are losing time if we procastinate. Peace.

Selam brother, i have to read surah jumaa and surah al asr again and think about this what you say, it is still not clear to me. About Maghrib you say it is a direction, how did you come to this conclusion? I have seen explanations from arabs who claim it means the setting of the sun. Peace

The_Guided_One

Salam brother. The time range for fajr and isha is wusta. A short period where we need to be mindful of, hence 'leave everything behind when we encounter this time period to do the solat' (this is stated in surah jumaat). Maghrib is direction, Zuhr is a time to rest during noon especially under a hot sun, asr is time mentioned in surah al-Asr - where time waits for no man and we are losing time if we procastinate. Peace.

Surah 2>238

Pickthall Be guardians of your prayers, and of the midmost prayer, and stand up with devotion to Allah.
Asad BE EVER mindful of prayers, and of praying in the most excellent way; 227 and stand before God in devout obedience.
Malik Guard your Salah (obligatory regular prayers) especially the middle Salah and stand up with true devotion to Allah.
Yusuf Ali Guard strictly your (habit of) prayers especially the middle prayer and stand before Allah in a devout (frame of mind). 271
Transliteration Hafithoo AAala alssalawati waalssalati alwusta waqoomoo lillahi qaniteena

227 Lit., "the midmost prayer". It is generally assumed that this refers to the mid-afternoon ('asr) prayer, although some authorities believe that it denotes the prayer at dawn (fajr). Muhammad 'Abduh, however, advances the view that it may mean "the noblest kind of prayer - that is, a prayer from the fullness of the heart, with the whole mind turned towards God, inspired by awe of Him, and reflecting upon His word" (Manar II, 43. - In accordance with the system prevailing throughout the Qur'an, any lengthy section dealing with social laws is almost invariably followed by a call to God-consciousness and since God-consciousness comes most fully to its own in prayer, this and the next verse are interpolated here between injunctions relating to marital life and divorce.

271 The Middle Prayer Salutul-wusta may be translated "the best or the most excellent prayer." Authorities differ as to the exact meaning of this phrase. The weight of authorities seems to be in favour of interpreting this as the 'Asr prayer in the middle of the afternoon. This is apt to be most neglected, and yet this is the most necessary, to remind us of God in the midst of our worldly affairs. There is special Sura, entitled 'Asr, of which the mystic meaning is appropriately dealt with under that Sura.

Is wusta best or middle, that is the question. I think it means both. So best is when you get up at night and pray as in surah 17>79 and that is also the middle prayer.

hanslan

We may differ in opinion but Im not saying you are wrong or Im right.

Because Arabic is not my language, I rely on translation. After reading your post, another enlightenedment came but it does not change my position only it widens my understanding.

Sahih International17-78
Establish prayer at the decline of the sun until the darkness of the night and the Qur'an of dawn. Indeed, the recitation of dawn is ever witnessed.
Sahih International17-79
And from the night, pray with it as additional (nfilatan) for you; it is expected that your Lord will resurrect you to a praised station.

My understanding, the tahajjud/night prayer is additional.
Wusta is a reference to a solat that occurs in the period within (1) sunrise and (2) sunset. Due to short period, one needs discipline to abide by it.

There are other solat that people do (sectarians, people of the book other than quran but not obligatory as per Quran's instruction).

I summarise

Obligatory solat specifically mentioned in the Quran Fajar and Isyak the timing is wusta between sunrise and sunset.
Additional solat to raise oneself higher - tahajjud - recommended practice but not obligatory.
Other solat (could be practised by people of the book other than quran) not obligatory.

Other meaning of solat apart from praying - not discuss here.

Peace.

The_Guided_One

We may differ in opinion but Im not saying you are wrong or Im right.

Because Arabic is not my language, I rely on translation. After reading your post, another enlightenedment came but it does not change my position only it widens my understanding.

Sahih International17-78
Establish prayer at the decline of the sun until the darkness of the night and the Qur'an of dawn. Indeed, the recitation of dawn is ever witnessed.
Sahih International17-79
And from the night, pray with it as additional (nfilatan) for you; it is expected that your Lord will resurrect you to a praised station.

My understanding, the tahajjud/night prayer is additional.
Wusta is a reference to a solat that occurs in the period within (1) sunrise and (2) sunset. Due to short period, one needs discipline to abide by it.

There are other solat that people do (sectarians, people of the book other than quran but not obligatory as per Quran's instruction).

I summarise

Obligatory solat specifically mentioned in the Quran Fajar and Isyak the timing is wusta between sunrise and sunset.
Additional solat to raise oneself higher - tahajjud - recommended practice but not obligatory.
Other solat (could be practised by people of the book other than quran) not obligatory.

Other meaning of solat apart from praying - not discuss here.

Peace.

Selam,

We have 3 names, and in Quran there are 3 salat described, surah 11>114 and surah 17>78, both tell us about 2 prayers, the question is where is the third prayer? I believe the third prayer is described in surah 1779. That is the only logical thing i can come up. The question is can we call it tahajjud prayer, the translation is
(17793)
fatahajjad
arise from sleep for prayer

Also the decline of the sun can be the setting of the sun
About Maghrib you say it is a direction, how did you come to this conclusion? I have seen explanations from arabs who claim it means the setting of the sun.

Peace

hanslan

Selam brother, i have to read surah jumaa and surah al asr again and think about this what you say, it is still not clear to me. About Maghrib you say it is a direction, how did you come to this conclusion? I have seen explanations from arabs who claim it means the setting of the sun. Peace

Salam brother

Maghreb, meaning ?West? (a reference to the Arabic-speaking countries in the west of North Africa). Maghreb is an Arabic term literally meaning ?place of setting (of the sun)?, and hence ?West.? It derives from the root ghuroob, meaning ?to set? or ?to be hidden?

fatahajjad - arise from sleep for prayer
I can see your point. But I cannot agree at this time given that Quran states elsewhere there are 2x solat being 2 ends of the day (fajr and isha) with specific times requiring discipline to comply (ie consistent with wusta requirements) and as referred in surah jumaat where one leaves eveything to perform the solat (629).

My current understanding is

it is obligatory for me to comply with 2x daily solat at the prescribed times with only excuse of not complying being unconscious or dead.
And if I want something extra (that additional point) from Allah I will perform the night prayer with no specific time constraints.
Referring to 7320, there is an obligation to perform nightly which is reading the Quran. Given that solat can be translated to commitment/obligation then you are right, tahajjud is an obligation to perform nightly by reading the Quran.
If I were to join point 2 and 3, my understanding of the word 'additional' is revised as additional obligation to read the Quran nightly instead of 'optional solat'.

In summary, item 1 is constraint by time, item 3 is not constraint by time, wusta can apply to both (due to characteristics of 1 and 3) and both 1 and 3 are commitments to Allah.

Although points 1 and 3 are not new to me, but point 4 was a 'just now' event, maybe i should fast and wait.

Anyway, the above is my understanding only. Peace.

The_Guided_One

Salam brother,

Maghreb, meaning ?West? (a reference to the Arabic-speaking countries in the west of North Africa). Maghreb is an Arabic term literally meaning ?place of setting (of the sun)?, and hence ?West.? It derives from the root ghuroob, meaning ?to set? or ?to be hidden?

fatahajjad - arise from sleep for prayer
I can see your point. But I cannot agree at this time given that Quran states elsewhere there are 2x solat being 2 ends of the day (fajr and isha) with specific times requiring discipline to comply (ie consistent with wusta requirements) and as referred in surah jumaat where one leaves eveything to perform the solat (629).

My current understanding is

it is obligatory for me to comply with 2x daily solat at the prescribed times with only excuse of not complying being unconscious or dead.
And if I want something extra (that additional point) from Allah I will perform the night prayer with no specific time constraints.
Referring to 7320, there is an obligation to perform nightly which is reading the Quran. Given that solat can be translated to commitment/obligation then you are right, tahajjud is an obligation to perform nightly by reading the Quran.
If I were to join point 2 and 3, my understanding of the word 'additional' is revised as additional obligation to read the Quran nightly instead of 'optional solat'.

In summary, item 1 is constraint by time, item 3 is not constraint by time, wusta can apply to both (due to characteristics of 1 and 3) and both 1 and 3 are commitments to Allah.

Although points 1 and 3 are not new to me, but point 4 was a 'just now' event, maybe i should fast and wait.

Anyway, the above is my understanding only. Peace.

Selam brother,

First i want to say that i am also researching and i am seeking the truth, i can make mistakes and i am not sure about many things that is why i investigate. I believe i will find the truth and other Muslim will also help to find the truth. That is the reason i became member on this forum.

Thank you for the explanation of maghrib, I think you are right. So li duluk can only mean the setting of the sun.

I am trying to understand many things in Quran, like the mention of sabbath. Jumah is translated as friday, but i have seen a translation for friday and it was not jumah it was El gom3a on this page https//www.rocketlanguages.com/arabic/learn/days-of-the-week-in-arabic/

And when we see the translation in Quran it is day of gathering, it does not say friday
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The_Guided_One

Why can it not not be leave everything what you do and go pray Isha? Like i understand the Jews have a prayer like Isha on Friday and then they have a day of rest on Saturday. If the jumah prayer is on a friday and at noon, and if it means the wusta prayer, why is there not any mention about wusta in this verse 629. If there are 2 prayers mentioned, then the prayer at dawn you do not have any work, but at night you might have work, some people work also at night.

It can also be that the jumah prayer is at noon on a friday, but i can not read anything about friday or noon.

I have some questions about the sabbath, because in Quran we do not read that this commandment from Allah has changed and also the zakat and salat has not changed, only the direction of prayer is changed. Does this mean that we should take Saturday as a free day?

hanslan

Salam brother

I clarify myself. I don't believe in Jummat prayers - it does not exist.

I believe Jumaat signifies an event where people gather, it could mean an everyday event like going to work, shopping, morning or evening market, sports event, parties etc. Thus during those event when the time for the 2 solat comes - either isya or fajr only, then those who believe will abandon everything for awhile to perform salat due to the short time available.

As for the 3rd solat/tahajjud/commitment given its time period is lengthy, there is no requirement to leave anything, you can choose the appropriate time.

As for your references to other faith's prayers, aside from the 2 solat at fajr and isya and the 3rd during the night, i don't find them in the Quran.

I also believe due to the short period for the 2 prayers, it is meant to communicate personal issues and short verses (like al fatehah, ikhlas, falaq, etc) of the Quran like specific request or praises to Allah in nature, not those verses telling stories or rules.

Reading and studying the quran is a commitment at night (3rd solat) and the period at dawn (as it is witnessed at dawn), and of course we can add personal requests (In the Q, there's a specific doa for the 3rd solat).

Whether you sit, stand or make any movements, I personally understand that it is up to us, whatever that feels good when one communicates with Allah. But if I am in a mosque, then I will not act weird (when in rome do like the roman's do) but instead perform prayers like everybody else (although I may be saying/reciting different things in my prayers not following the crowd).

I avoid being made to lead prayers, I don't believe in imams leading prayers. The verse stating that the rasul led prayers - I take it as praying alongside them - not specifically leading them into a synchronize prayer like currently practised - because prayers are individualistic in nature, we meet Allah as individual and we are also judged as individual - the current practice of imam led prayers place a heavy burden on the imam and the followers given mistakes by participants everyone gets a share, clearly not consistent with Q. The worse part is, we don't even know whether the imam is going to heaven or hell but we have surrendered our rights and follow blindly.

Peace.

The_Guided_One