The Problem of Evil
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Try opening your mind, before your mouth.
bravo
if you carefully read what i said then you was not replying like this ,
your eyes your mind and your tonge is responsible for your actions ,,, so use them in nice mannner ..
peace.
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Evil is ignorance or darkness. Zalam in Arabic. Evil as a word in English is different from that word in Arabic and evil is always as a matter of perspective. When you do something which is in vain, illogical, and nonproductive, then it is ignorant or zalam.
And in order not to wander in ignorance one needs wisdom and to think on a larger scale and not just in front of their eyes.
Be well
Amenuel -
In the first place we should answer What is evil?
Salaam
for this you need to understand what is everything...
everything is in pair...
a magnet
humanbeing
plants
vegetables
animals
even subatomic particlesso thats how things exist...
one sid of controllers willingly accept to serve the humanity For God
on other side there was a negetive side of these controller who suppose to be graded from one level to another due to the free will but again demoted due to the arrogance .. point to be noted here.. his claim was why do i serve someone who you created by dust, whether i m from energy,, did he forget rather than he was of energy God promote his level to controller(light) and he was in one of them..so do controllers ask why you create something even we are here for you priase, and then God said i now what you dont know,, and then God proved to angels look at this... didnt i told you , i know what you dnt know... fromm there the history of creation started i which a self inside a flesh of earthy material got a level of thinking and understanding at exteme level, that our real self an intelligent and senstive being that know how to distingusih .. God taught us what we dnt know... and then all angels prostrate. except iblees. i think thats why evil exist , and evil side is also inside every self/character , if there is no evil side there is no purpose of this life and test.. everybody looks very calm and peaceful.. but thats not the case.. yeh everything has its end as well beginning in hereafter there will be no evil or evil side, that part will be reprogrammed in our selves..
everything have a history thats what i try to tell ...at first place..
so when Good exist there is an evil side must follow it , when positive side of magnet exist there must be a negetive side to make that metal magnet otherwise its not magnet at all...
i just highlight main points again when we clearly read and ponder over all of it we get to know...and then other new topics will also arrise ,
like if God know already that it will gona happen, yeh obviosuly he was aware. and it was his plan.... he know every hidden thing of this universe... and evil does have forms and kinds as well... look in to these words
chapter 113
Say "I seek refuge with the Lord of the rising dawn,"
"From the evil among His creation or From the evil aspects of created things.
And from the evils of the darkness of Ignorance whenever and wherever it is encountered.
"And from the evil of those who blow on knots,"
And from the evil of the envious when he envies (and tries to harm)." -
Peace imrankhawaja
We agree to an extent, the key word is balance, the creation at this level is
composed of opposites or complimentary aspects which in turn produces the
reality that we experience. Outside of this life there is Jannah which is positive
or all good/bliss and jahanam which is negative and the absent of good.
In this life the two co-exist. To answer the question "why does evil exist?"
It exists because we live in a in a reality composed of the two extremes! -
Evil is what we do in ignorance and delusion. It is quite interesting actually that the most commonly used word for evil basically means darkness, i.e. zalam and it is because this is what you do when you actually stumble around not knowing what you are doing, no light; in ignorance.
Evilness is ignorance and it is anything which is not constructive and beneficial. It is mere imperception.
I can steal and hoard money, but for what use is it? Will my person grow?
I can murder a man because he murdered my brother, but what does it change? My brother will still be dead and the man cannot be more dead who was already dead (spiritually).
I can have sex with many women, but what benefit does it have for me? It pleases the flesh, but will I grow as a person?
I can worship a god, but what benefit is it to the god? Why will the god like it, does the god have primitive desires (like humanly kings)?
I can brag about my possessions and personal skill, but will that make me or anyone a better person? Will it not feed the instinctive call?
I can long for and be envious of my neighbor's possessions, social status and ability, but is any of it necessary for my personal development?
If you reflect everything highlighted above is zalam , i.e. "evil" or "is of darkness" (unenlightened). And many things may lead to another, if I am jealous of my neighbor perhaps I begin to employ dubious methods to acquire the same. Greed usually comes at the expense of another. And anything ignorant may be detrimental to yourself such as wasting hours in vain worship while you could have done something productive. Your Rabb knows what you need and how you fare without you even opening your mouth to tell, and Rabb knows how you feel about Rabb without your words
Be well
Amenuel -
Well, why would we receive more through worship? That is a question. Logically Rabb would not be emotionally weak and be better to us if we are admirers. It would only be through our works we are judged. And obviously Rabb knows how much we "worship" without saying a word.
I hoped you would realize such behavior of seeking confirmation of power is primitive.
Be well
Amenuel -
Well, why would we receive more through worship? That is a question. Logically Rabb would not be emotionally weak and be better to us if we are admirers. It would only be through our works we are judged. And obviously Rabb knows how much we "worship" without saying a word.
I hoped you would realize such behavior of seeking confirmation of power is primitive.
Human of the past could not exactly figured out the cause and effect of some phenomenon, thus they take an assumption / belief that everything is controlled / managed by a God and that God is angry with us.
No rain for few months, the rain God must be angry with us because we forgot to worship Him..
Prepare the ceremony to sacrifice the best among our virgins.. (as apparently the Rain God Imam saith the Rain God demands virgins to be sacrificed)..The next time you have problems with your computer, and you just couldn't figure out why.
Remember that it's very possible that the Computer God is angry with you.. because you forgot to worship Him.https//erikbuys.files.wordpress.com/2014/05/idol-worship-social-media.jpg
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Anger is an instinct, Jafar. If God is angry then God is not more advanced than a child learning to control behavior seeing how often God is angry in traditional fashion. Anger also leads to proportionally weak judgement and hence probably why you can see humans are perceived to receive the punishment of burning in Hellfire forever because they missed to "acknowledge the higher power" and worship.
Anger results in the wish of harming another if not handled spiritually by the person. It is as primitive as it can get.
Be well
Amenuel -
logically there is no need of physical actions done by any human to make God happy ... what we call our worship... to God .
people continously worship five time but infront of them they are selling drugs and and traffciking kids and women in some part of north west of pakistan where there is no law of law applied to humans called area under tribal control, this is just one example,, dn want to be rascit its just a example...
what i am trying to say a act oof worship really need human gymnastic to make God happy if we continue to do the action oon other hand which God really get angry at..
God did not require anything from human beings apart fromm the deeds which make this planet a peacful place thatts it...
its people who change the words of rituals or worship to physical worshipthe worship is to listen God and obey his commands like not to steal, not to rob, not to murder, and help eachother by wealth , sources,
dnt block the provision to someone which is bestowed to you by God... these things infact play a part to make you more close to nature and universal lord... -
Evil exists bro Zulf because Allah created it!
Allah is the creator of all things. I think your are referring to
characteristics of evil39/62 Allah is the Creator of all things, and He is, over all things, Disposer of affairs.
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Then what's next?
God created our weaknesses and sins, and rebellion and negativity?
So God forces people into Hell because he created them so that they had no option but to sin? God must have created the failure to do good also then.?
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Peace Zulf.
The question I will ask is why ?
If one answers because we are being tested!!! And a test must have 2 opposites( good and evil),Then the next question will be What is the reason behind us being tested?Why should we forgo a test? Is this fair?
Then comes what went on before the test? And what next?
Qoran has all these answers.
GOD bless you.
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Then what's next?
God created our weaknesses and sins, and rebellion and negativity?
So God forces people into Hell because he created them so that they had no option but to sin? God must have created the failure to do good also then.?
Peace bro Zulf, please re-read post #12. Allah created the parameters in which
we live. You forgot to mention positive in your post -
peace,
'we point out the paths, including the wrong ones'
how else would we see the results of wrong actions and take heed if they wete not apart of our life? god teaches us by way of examples, pairs, polarity.
evil is the result of us failing to uphold gods absolute authority, and here we have an oppurtunity to reform and return to our lord.
god created life to test us who would be best in thier deeds, by his will