War And Islam
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who told you that they don't believe in wars ,they believe in bible and bible is not free fro violence .BTW they have their own weird translation
a true religion will solve all the problems of human and war is the most dangerous problem
Quran give a beautiful solutions for wars
just go thru the opening post .
http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9608768.msg393451#msg393451Peace,
Thanks Parvez, you forgot to mention war in Bosnia and Herzegovina. In that war lots of people have killed many Muslim's in a name of Christianity.
However, Nazi's where I think Catholic, Serbs were/are orthodox Christians. However, the actual Jehovah's witnesses have not fought any wars and they disassociate themselves from " Christendom".
Jehovah's witnesses have problems in some countries because they refuse to do military service.
However, throughout my life I have met wonderful Serbs, Catholics and yes, Jew's as well.
Thanks
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Comrox is O0
haha nope i think she is from america...
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Peace,
Thanks Parvez, you forgot to mention war in Bosnia and Herzegovina. In that war lots of people have killed many Muslim's in a name of Christianity.
i cannot include everything in my article .Holocaust itself demands a article .i have to cut short and make it short and sweet
However, Nazi's where I think Catholic, Serbs were/are orthodox Christians. However, the actual Jehovah's witnesses have not fought any wars and they disassociate themselves from " Christendom".
Jehovah's witnesses have problems in some countries because they refuse to do military service.
However, throughout my life I have met wonderful Serbs, Catholics and yes, Jew's as well.
Thanks
i dont know why you are so much worried about Jehovah's witness .are you really impressed by their doctrines
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Miss Comrox and me had earlier an issue.
I gave a her a compliment, and instead of thanking me, she shamelessly started to call me all kind of bad names.
I don't know what her problem is man. Nowadays youth has absolutely no respect nope
I also do not understand why the admins/mods didn?t ban her for all the bad words she used against me confusedSo there is one more war is going on in my war thread &
i have checked out your conversation ,i think it was not intentional and she had commented in a flow .you expected "no" and she gave "yes"
not a big issue ,so forgive and forget -
@Ervin
i want t make few add-on to my previous post
As a matter of fact traditional Muslims think Quranist are the Muslim counterpart for Jehovah's witnesses.like JW, Quranist dont have answers for lot of question .if you trace my post , you will find a pattern in my threads as well as in my posts and you will be amazed to see no Quranist has ever answered me explicitly .even this thread is an example for that . -
As a matter of fact traditional Muslims think Quranist are the Muslim counterpart for Jehovah's witnesses.like JW, Quranist dont have answers for lot of question .if you trace my post , you will find a pattern in my threads as well as in my posts and you will be amazed to see no Quranist has ever answered me explicitly .even this thread is an example for that .
what are your questions? post one by one i mean refresh all of them ... i did not see in any of your post somebody did not provide..answers.. its another matter if you unable to understand them..
i have a question as well , by saying somebody quranist is not really mean u r violating the teaching of quran in which we should not be divde in to sect? as far i see nobody claim themself quranist .. you did this mistake again, showing how carelessly you approch everytime ,, proof is on this thread ... if u remember callling me quranist then shia... hahaha
and honestly in alll of your threads i see you contradict with your own reasonings plantey of times confused even this thread is example of this... lol
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@ pervaiz just want to ask yes or no... if yes then you are not contradicting with your own statement... but contradicting with teaching of islam,,, if no then your are contradicting urself ...
which one you wana go... i think u should select no... yes
Sorry to disappoint you ,imran
my answer is Yeslets play a teacher -student game , i am your teacher and your are my student (dont worry i will answer you also )
Teacher (Me) who made 2+2=4
Imran 's answer GodTeacher (Me) Who found theory of relativity , Albert Einstein or God
Imran's answer GodTeacher (me) who established Islam by defeating Byzantine and Persians ,Umra rashiaallahuanu or God
Imran's answer Godis this what you want say imran
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what are your questions? post one by one i mean refresh all of them ... i did not see in any of your post somebody did not provide..answers.. its another matter if you unable to understand them..
i have a question as well , by saying somebody quranist is not really mean u r violating the teaching of quran in which we should not be divde in to sect? as far i see nobody claim themself quranist .. you did this mistake again, showing how carelessly you approch everytime ,, proof is on this thread ... if u remember callling me quranist then shia... hahaha
and honestly in alll of your threads i see you contradict with your own reasonings plantey of times confused even this thread is example of this... lol
Really ,imran
rotfl
why did you ran away from this thread
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i m still here i never run away from anywhere in my life,, lol
i provided you my reasons on that thread... with a word niyaat but it seems you are weak in learning things its not my fault..
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Sorry to disappoint you ,imran
my answer is Yeslets play a teacher -student game , i am your teacher and your are my student (dont worry i will answer you also )
Teacher (Me) who made 2+2=4
Imran 's answer GodTeacher (Me) Who found theory of relativity , Albert Einstein or God
Imran's answer GodTeacher (me) who established Islam by defeating Byzantine and Persians ,Umra rashiaallahuanu or God
Imran's answer Godis this what you want say imran
rotflthis indicates me you are claiming sommething which u are not worthy off...
a teacher is saying islam is alive due to caliph omar,, instead of God...
my teacher = disbeliever so by default this teacher is getting lessons from student still he refused to accpet truth ..
height of ego.... hahaha yay
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lets play teacher vs student... and beleiver vs disbeleiver...
i said islam and everything is alive due to God...
you said its due to omar..who is believer , i beleive God protects you beleive omar protects... do toba in your first chance lol pr
teacher claiming 2+2is not=4
taaecher need to learn basic arithmatic... hahahaha
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@ pervaiz just want to ask yes or no... if yes then you are not contradicting with your own statement... but contradicting with teaching of islam,,, if no then you aare contradicting urself ...
which one you wana go... i think u should select no... yes
I have already answer your both question .i predicted these logical fallacy from you when you were insisting me to answer about Umra rashaiallahuanau
As per you if i say "yes" then
... if yes then you are not contradicting with your own statement... but contradicting with teaching of islam,,,
i know you will come up with this type of question that is why i brought verse 7.175 and 7.176 ,traditionally his name was Bal
am bin Baura' ,a man from the Children of Israel.''we are not interested about his name but we should stick to the fact that ALLAH suabhanavatal gave him sign/ayahs .but we got detached himself from them and went behind satan .Note that ,even after ALLAH subhanavatala giving him revelations he followed his will and got deluded .the information of this ayah is ,ALLAH Subahnavatla is informing us about a man who went astray even after having revelation .ALLAH suabhanavtala is not telling us that he made him to go astray after giving revelation .From this ,it is evident that humans have power to rule their freewill .some use it for good cause others ruin themselves .this indicates me you are claiming sommething which u are not worthy off...
a teacher is saying islam is alive due to caliph omar,, instead of God...
my teacher = disbeliever so by default this teacher is getting lessons from student still he refused to accpet truth ..
height of ego.... hahaha yay
why should ALLAH subahnavatala curse his creation in verse 111.1
God has given man intellectual ,he acts according to it
he can became an enemy of his religion like abu lahab
he can go astray even after seeing his signs like Balam bin Baura' ,
he knew 2+2=4
he can innovates like Einstein
he can even establish his religion like Umar rasiaallahuanhu -
lets play teacher vs student... and beleiver vs disbeleiver...
i said islam and everything is alive due to God...
you said its due to omar..who is believer , i beleive God protects you beleive omar protects... do toba in your first chance lol pr
teacher claiming 2+2is not=4
taaecher need to learn basic arithmatic... hahahaha
imran cool down
lol ,i thing i have made you out of control -
i m still here i never run away from anywhere in my life,, lol
i provided you my reasons on that thread... with a word niyaat but it seems you are weak in learning things its not my fault..
the last post of that thread was made by me .i could not see any post after that .when did you gave your answer
sorry imran i could not control my laughter ,lol.forgive me ...cool -
the last post of that thread was made by me .i could not see any post after that .when did you gave your answer
sorry imran i could not control my laughter ,lol.forgive me ...coolevery thread have last posts by somebody its mean there are more than 10000 threads all run away from one another thats how you are judging the criteria... moreover if you clearly see what you replied in your post its seems you are asking answers from wakas and he did provide you all the reasonings but you failed to understand... peace
and if i just give you another repply there right now it makes me last than... its mean you run away... hmm
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imran cool down
lol ,i thing i have made you out of controlno u did not .. you are out of control of urself becoz what i clearly see you put behind your creator and give preference to a perosn.. on other words its idol worshiping... &
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no u did not .. you are out of control of urself becoz what i clearly see you put behind your creator and give preference to a perosn.. on other words its idol worshiping... &
I gave you the verses as well as my reasoning ,you should argue with me regarding those verses .just throwing few words will never solve the purpose
Umar rasaiallahuanhu implemented quran in his all wars as well as in his life .he become the example for the other who followed him .his wars were for the survival of Islam .he was not after the riches .i proved his way as well the reasons with the situation prevailing those days .
Islam survived only because of those wars won by Muslims .of course by the help of ALLAH subahnavatal .if he had not implemented Quran in those wars then ALLAH subahnavatala would not helped him (refer verse 7.175/176)What you are doing is abusive fallacy ,imran .you are attacking me instead of the argument itself
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i sometimes wonder how disloyal people are with their lord...
for saving their ego / claim or anything they put behind God words and God authority?
same is happening here... a person claim something and he did not care about what God said and what should he beleive when God is saying he is the one who alone we seek help (chapter one)..
they debate on prostration but failed to beleive the very first wording of salat , which is a chapter claim that its God alone we serve and seek help? its mean their prayers are actually a drama or they are confuse in serving God alone?
may God help all those people..
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Since you have mention about Umar rasiallahuanhu ,he did his part .if he had not done his part then Islam might had been long forgotten religion
i think i will remind you off this again...
there are two things first islam is a religion that spread on wars...
or without wars do you think God was not enough to protect islam?
and all credit go to omar ?
Islam survived only because of those wars won by Muslims
another update version , now instead of omar its wars that took place of God...
is it not a clear violation lol see with an hour you change ur side again
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What you are doing is abusive fallacy ,imran .you are attacking me instead of the argument itself
no i did not lol
you claim something about me i just give a plain reply...