What is your "IDEAL" afterlife would be like ?
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I think it is unkind to make fun of people. I did not make fun of your belief despite I personally find you believe in something awfully primitive where a god keeps people as pets in an unproductive farm, completely illogical and absurd beliefs, and I could call you things if I liked. Your belief suits your attachment to the bodily, hope you enjoy your "garden".
And you have not understood what I am teaching because I am not an "examined" Maleik (angel) yet and I was not involved in the creation of this world because I am just a growing seed. However such as Gabriel and Michael have been Maleikat during the creation of this cycle.
So no, I was not designing this world.
Be well
Amenuel -
I think it is unkind to make fun of people. I did not make fun of your belief despite I personally find you believe in something awfully "primitive"
where a god keeps people as pets in an "unproductive farm," completely illogical and absurd beliefs, and I could call you things if I liked.
Your belief suits your attachment to the bodily, hope you enjoy your "garden".Salaam/Peace MoF,
first of all, "al-Jannat" (="the Paradise" (whose width encompasses the whole Universes =3/133) is not a "primitive unproductive farm"
as you would like to wrongfully perceive and label it in your megalomaniac, deeply sick mind under the influence of Iblees/Satan.All truthful (Human and Jinn and Angel) Servants of AL-LAH who rightfully recognizes HIM as One and Only GOD (=ILAHUN Wahidun =2/163),
and never set any "partner" to HIM --(they never claim to be a "partner," or a "portion/share/piece/part" of AL-LAH, and
never claim "themselves" to be AL-LAH =21/26-29as that megalomaniac Iblees/Satan and his human and jinn followers here (17/64 = 6/112-113) wrongfully claim it
for "themselves" here 43/15 = 5/17-18 = 43/19-20 because of their strong megalomania, deeply sick mind, and hugely inflated egos.)--Thereby, all truthful (Human and Jinn and Angel) Servants of AL-LAH above (=21/26-29 & 72/1-2) will thus be living
in that "al-Jannat" (="the Paradise" (whose width encompasses the whole Universes =3/133),
and they will always glorify AL-LAH by truly and wholeheartedly reflecting on HIS Awesome Creation Power, Eternal Justice,
Perfect Wisdom & Judgment as HE Superbly Establishes them throughout the whole Universes therein (65/12 = 2/164 = 7/54 = ......),and they will thus rightfully and wholeheartedly observe all the Commandments of AL-LAH unto them,
using all of their AL-LAH Given Abilities/Powers/Knowledge, as Honorable & Loyal Servants of AL-LAH therein,
under HIS Eternal Kingship/Sovereignty therein (=21/19-20, 21-26 = 12/6 = 18/95-97 = 27/40 = 34/10-13 = ......),and they will also always be vigilant, and will thus decisively and utterly refute and reject that megalomaniac Iblees/Satan's evil agenda and his
human and jinn cronies mentioned above (17/64 = 6/112-113).In this respect, our Lord AL-LAH has clearly and perfectly informed us about this "al-Jannat" (="the Paradise"
(whose width encompasses the whole Universes =3/133), specifically for HIS Truthful Human Servants (=all of Us),
here again thus==========
21- And those (Ancestors/Parents) who have believed, and their descendants/siblings (=dhurriyatuhum) also followed them in belief;
We will have their descendants/siblings (=dhurriyatahum) join them --(in Paradise, in parallel Universes,
which they will be admitted into, instantly, at the time of their normal death here 16/32
and thus they will instantly be awakened in that Paradise, in their --inviolable/unassailable-- perfect Human form, even to
their fingertips therein 75/3-6 = 2/38 = 21/69, 103).We shall not let any of their deeds go to waste. For every person will be perfectly paid for what he/she did (in this World).
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25- And (in that Paradise above) they will come to one another asking.
26- They will say We were before this (=in the World) always reverently conscious (of our LORD) (=mushfeqeen thus especially,
by never setting any "partners" to their LORD here 23/57-59)-- amidst our people.27- So, AL-LAH thus blessed us, and has spared us the agony of the ill-winds.
28- (Because) we were before this (=in the World) always call upon HIM (as our One and Only LORD Who has
never appointed no "partners" to HIMSELF from any of HIS Servants here, in no way, at all 72/19-20 = 17/111).(Thus) HE is the Most-Kind, the Most-Merciful --(unto all of HIS truthful Servants who decisively refuted and rejected that megalomaniac Iblees/Satan
who tried to proclaim himself to be a "partner" of AL-LAH, in order also to eventually claim "himself" to be AL-LAH,thus to exploit all Humanity to make them such "slaves" and "cronies" to himself here (17/64 = 6/112-113)
due to his deep sickness, arrogance and tyranny,
as/in clearly witnessed in the dark ages in his such "cronies" (=for example Catholic Church & Crusades, etc. here =5/17-18, 72-74).QURAN TESTAMENT 51/21-28
I think it is unkind to make fun of people. I did not make fun of your belief ......
Your belief suits your attachment to the bodily, hope you enjoy your "garden".I never make fun of people, dear fellow/friend MoF, and never make fun of their belief,
but if someone (knowingly or unknowingly) attempts to despise the One and Only Real GOD (=AL-LAH),
and HIS Wonderful Paradise HE has created for all of HIS Truthful Human Servants above, for such an Excellent Purpose
--(as we have clearly witnessed it in the above Verses),then it is my absolute Responsibility/Duty (and every truthful Believer's absolute Responsibility/Duty here) to clearly prove the Fact that
those false and imaginary gods --(these are called "jibt and taghoot" and are utterly rejected and refuted by our Lord AL-LAH here =4/51, 60)--
concocted by Iblees/Satan here (17/64 = 6/112-113) are the primitive and contemptible false and imaginary gods that every
truthful Servant of AL-LAH must absolutely refute and reject here (=4/51, 60)!So in this respect, those who serve such a false and imaginary god --(because according to Iblees/Satan, the whole universe, all things
and persons (=thus he indicates himself as such a person and then his such cronies here 5/18 & ......) are natural/intrinsic "partners,"
and a "portion/share/piece/part" of that false and imaginary god, in unity!so the natural/inevitable conclusion of such a false and crooked belief above is that
for example all "sewage" (=i.e. all fecal and urinary waste and excrement of all animals on earth, etc., their awful smell and taste) should thus be
natural and intrinsic "portion/share/piece/part" of that false and imaginary god, in perfect unity, first of all!So dear fellow/friend (MoF), can you clearly see now, thus your belief suits your attachment to Iblees/Satan (=17/64 = 25/43),
then consequently, should I say to you (in reply to your final statement above) = MoF, hope you enjoy your "sewage".And if you still insist on wrongfully claiming that you are a natural/intrinsic "partner," and a "portion/share/piece/part" of
that false and imaginary god, in unity!then when/if you have any such gullible followers (=25/43-44) you may have to let them taste your fecal and urinary excrement, first of all,
that they may have a strong and unshakable belief and loyalty to you and to your false and imaginary god, in perfect unity, therein!
(*you should never take this as a mere "making fun," because this is seriously the natural and inevitable consequence
of your utterly false and crooked belief under the influence of Iblees/Satan above.)And if you still do not repent and return to One and Only Real GOD (=AL-LAH) here, immediately (=4/17-18),
you yourself may thus have to taste the fecal and urinary excrement of your master Iblees/Satan, eventually (=4/117-121)!
So therefore, only those who truly repent and wholeheartedly return to "AL-LAH"
as our One and Only "LORD" (="RABB" here (=6/164)
Whose Individual/Personal BEING is absolutely Different/Separate/Distinct above and beyond all Universe/s, all Things we can
ever imagine above us,QURAN TESTAMENT 70/4 = 42/11 = 112/1-4
and so HE has never appointed no "Partners" to HIMSELF from any of HIS Servants (=i.e. Humans, Angels, Jinns, etc.),
in no way, at all,QURAN TESTAMENT 6/163 = 17/111
and HE has never ascribed no "Portion/Share/Piece/Part" to HIMSELF from any of HIS Servants (=i.e. Humans, Angels, Jinns, etc.),
in no way, at all,QURAN TESTAMENT 43/15 = 5/17-18 = 5/72-74 = 43/19-20
shall be forgiven and saved by AL-LAH in this Most Generous & Most Benevolent Manner here,
and they shall always be truthful Human Servants of AL-LAH, in Eternal Serenity & Peace & Victory, forever.=QURAN TESTAMENT 25/68-69-70-71, 72-73-74-75-76
Remain in peace/salaam.
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So no, I was not designing this world.
what do you think, after this world/life/growth of seed finishing will you be able to design any new world? just a question dnt take it personally please i feel your level of patience is breaking down in these days....
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For example, I feel inspiration (influence) from the Sustainer to continue on this reinterpretation work on the Quran and I continue to do so even though if I consciously wanted I could quit doing it at any time, and it is tedious and requires a lot of my time to the extent that it becomes tiring. And sometimes I wonder why I am doing it for some thankless bunch of people who only complain about my discoveries and who say I am only inventing meanings and who knows what. Some days I feel I would do just like Jonah and give a damn about it. But then I remind myself that I actually know there is an ancient prophecy of Isaiah that still needs to be fulfilled.
i actually find another thing while accidently open a thread somebody linked today ... but i could not properly understand it.. help me understanding it please.?
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i actually find another thing while accidently open a thread somebody linked today ... but i could not properly understand it.. help me understanding it please.?
That is the common feeling, but I try not to feel now a year later. The quote is from a post over a year ago. Now I do my part and do not expect anyone to listen and only await the witted to be able to perceive.
If you ask to interpret it perchance you ought to ask the person who wrote this who is still with you.
Be well
Amenuel -
what do you think, after this world/life/growth of seed finishing will you be able to design any new world? just a question dnt take it personally please i feel your level of patience is breaking down in these days....
If I become a maleika then I will be in control, symbiotically.
It seems not more than a low percentage will qualify either. It is like the stream of semen at a fertilization, only one of each stream will fertilize the egg.
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"Man of Faith" says If I become a "Maleika" then I will be "in Control", symbiotically.
"Man of Faith" says Quran does not use the word ALLAH to refer to GOD .......
ALLAH could be you or "Me", it refers to "SomeOne" 'Who Is'.
Salaam/Peace MoF,
you are such a megalomaniac, with a deeply sick mind and hugely inflated ego
--(*you should not take these as personal attacks, because this is the true description and diagnosis
of your "state of mind" above, first of all,and you can still repent and return to AL-LAH and get rid of your deep diseases here (=4/17 & 25/68-71),
if you have the courage and honesty to fight against your own sick ego and all of those satanic urges upon you above,
first of all 17/64 = 25/43)--that you have thus promoted yourself, even in such a short period of time,
from being such a GOD-Like "Maleika" (concocted in your sick mind) (in your first quote above)
to ultimately indicating yourself to be "ALLAH" (in your second quote above)!based on your weird lexicons, and your horrifically deluded/crooked interpretations therein, in accordance with your strong megalomania,
deeply sick mind and hugely inflated ego, under the influence of Iblees/Satan,
as it is clearly described hereQURAN TESTAMENT 17/64 = 6/71, 112-113 = 25/43
Therefore, I do not want to waste anymore time replying to your such satanic nonsense, MoF,
because I believe I have already delivered to you (in each of my previous posts above)
all of those crystal clear Verses of QURAN TESTAMENT
which unmistakably proves that you are --(knowingly or unknowingly)-- such a foolishly manipulated Guy by Iblees/Satan,
as it is clearly described hereQURAN TESTAMENT 17/64 = 6/71, 112-113 = 16/98-99-100
(*please, absolutely see all of these Verses above, clearly and openly delivered in my previous posts.)I have only very limited time every day to post here (one or two replies, at most),
so if you are a moral human-being with any decency and honesty that might have left in you,
you should wholeheartedly give ear to my sincere recommendation (in blue) to you above,
and do not reply here anymore --(to expose and degrade yourself lower and lower with your such satanic nonsense above),because from now on, I want to deliver all of those crystal clear Verses of QURAN TESTAMENT
in which our Lord AL-LAH unmistakably teaches us the clear and perfect meaning of these most important Words
(="RABB", and "ILAH", and thereafter "Abd", and then "Malak"Thus we will continue to rightfully learn from our Lord AL-LAH
in HIS perfectly clear (=mubeen) and straightforward (=qayyiman)
and easy to understand (=yassarna) WORD (=QURAN TESTAMENT),without any flaw/ambiguity in it (=la iwaja) therein, at all.
=QURAN TESTAMENT 15/1 = 39/28 = 54/17 = 18/1-2
Remain in peace/salaam.
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you are such a megalomaniac, with a deeply sick mind and hugely inflated ego
--(*you should not take these as personal attacks, because this is the true description and diagnosis
of your "state of mind" above, first of all,and you can still repent and return to AL-LAH and get rid of your deep diseases here (=4/17 & 25/68-71),
if you have the courage and honesty to fight against your own sick ego and all of those satanic urges upon you above,
first of all 17/64 = 25/43)--(concocted in your sick mind
under the influence of Iblees/Satan,
which unmistakably proves that you are --(knowingly or unknowingly)-- such a foolishly manipulated Guy by Iblees/Satan,
as it is clearly described hereThis is to much and against the forum rules
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LastDay3,
Could you please clarify your arguments, i.e. formulate what you base them on?
Megalomaniac? I do not have any further benefits than any other man or woman and only my state of mind determines my level, which absolutely anyone can get who puts their mind to it.
Sick mind, what is sick?
Ego, how am I egotistical seeing I am sharing the same opportunity to join the kingdom of God to other people? If I was egotistical I would act differently, and then I would not at all be qualified for any of this.
Ebless is not an existing person and Satan is the body's driving force which it appears you are susceptible to right as we speak.
Be well
Amenuel -
Peace Man Of Faith.
LastDay3 is saying to you "there is only one GOD". No one is a share/part/,,, with GOD!!! And "Allah" just means GOD. He is unique. You or anyone else cannot be "Allah". Only a sick mind will claim a share or part of "Allah".Qoran confirms what he is saying. How can anyone claim they are "Allah" if they believe Qoran?
See all the verses he has quoted to back up his argument.
I have not seen any verses from you backing your argument with him?
GOD bless you.
Peace -
Ebless is not an existing person and Satan is the body's driving force which it appears you are susceptible to right as we speak.
satan is an adjective to ibless or any evil doer, a kid can b a satan in plain language,, when we say he is very naughty/satan/bad....
a word satan you can also use it for ibless. the rebellion character(angel/controller/jinn or whatever) according to quran.... hope you got it.. bro..
and about rest of the post.. although nobody is unkind with you..no body is mocking at you... its seems people are mocking at your theories. that happened with everybody, like philosphers, scientists , prophets, messengers, untill they back their claims up with solid evidences... hope you got it..
your theories most of them are not in the line of quran if i recall it correctly.. even the theory of recarnation its interesting though i try to figure out this thing but i read some of the verses which make me think there is no life , we have one chance only...
26102 "If only we could have another chance, we would be among those who acknowledge.
and about the theory of portion share part of God. its not in the line with 112
and you have an alternate to back up your claims a magic of new age what people call it science... you can use that tool so that people will get you understand... if you will not giving proof and evidences of your claims not a single person will agree with you.. apart from the only people who are wishful thinker/conspricy theorists regarding quran ... examples i dnt want to give...
your claims are interesting everybody have a right to claim/dream/ think/ beleive whatever they like... but a winner always win his claims with proof and logics and reasonings..like lot of prophets who wins the claims and wars too... sometimes like david...
people when claim muhammad was a warrior, david too was warrior.. but they war against wrong doers ... your all claims when a person verify in the light of logic and reason most are them are not holding water...
peace
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Satan, the word, is applied to a person who does act according to their instincts and usually exclaimed when their instinctive act is considered particularly ignorant and "evil" in human terms. Quran uses Zalam which means dark, often incorrectly translated as evil. There is no separate person calling towards the irrational behavior but it is like an animal inside of you that cause you to select behavior. Enter into or something the root of Satan means and it would be something like entering drive.
Ebless, the word is from Be-Lam-Siin and means to be shattered or broken from. You can call it an affection.
I base this on lexical definitions from Semitic lexicons of decent age and it has nothing to do with New Age which I have no clue about because I was never interested but searched for the mysticism of the Semitic lore's origin.
It is Quran's common interpretation and model of spirituality which does not hold any water, it actually leaks like a strainer and is against sensible logic, which logic I have perforated to shape the strainer that you see is letting water through and can barely hold even a tiny drop of water.
Be well
Amenuel -
Satan, the word, is applied to a person who does act according to their instincts and usually exclaimed when their instinctive act is considered particularly ignorant and "evil" in human terms. Quran uses Zalam which means dark, often incorrectly translated as evil. There is no separate person calling towards the irrational behavior but it is like an animal inside of you that cause you to select behavior. Enter into or something the root of Satan means and it would be something like entering drive.
Ebless, the word is from Be-Lam-Siin and means to be shattered or broken from. You can call it an affection.
I base this on lexical definitions from Semitic lexicons of decent age and it has nothing to do with New Age which I have no clue about because I was never interested but searched for the mysticism of the Semitic lore's origin.
It is Quran's common interpretation and model of spirituality which does not hold any water, it actually leaks like a strainer and is against sensible logic, which logic I have perforated to shape the strainer that you see is letting water through and can barely hold even a tiny drop of water.
Be well
Amenuellook again... i request you to read my post again...
on simple words. you represent your theories,,, thats fine...
did you proved your theories ? ? ?
did you bring any evidence or example about your claims? ? ?
if you solve first two questions somehow , obviously it will hold no water when filter in the teaching of Al quran...
and yeh you are telling me the meanings of ibless...
if his name was noor , imran, mubashir, three possible meanings of his name .. light , my name meanings whatever is there let say its mean population...mubashir mean the one who bring good news...your theories are fantasy which can be pointed out by evena primary class kid... i mean the questions arises after your claims you never able to answer them , in the past /present ...
so please bring your evidences please if you are truthful in your claims ?
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Salaam/Peace MoF,
you are such a megalomaniac, with a deeply sick mind and hugely inflated ego
--(*you should not take these as personal attacks, because this is the true description and diagnosis
of your "state of mind" above, first of all,and you can still repent and return to AL-LAH and get rid of your deep diseases here (=4/17 & 25/68-71),
if you have the courage and honesty to fight against your own sick ego and all of those satanic urges upon you above,
first of all 17/64 = 25/43)--
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..........This is too much and against the forum rules.
Salaam/Peace Bender,
I honestly do not consider it "too much," my dear Brother/Friend, and I believe they are absolutely not against the forum rules,
because this fellow/friend (=MoF) already --(knowingly or unknowingly)-- attempts to utterly despise AL-LAH by always wrongfully
introducing HIM as a primitive, medieval megalomaniac king, with a sick mind. (*you can clearly see it
throughout his posts here and there in this Forum)But in reality, he himself and the false and imaginary god he concocts in his own mind
--(based on his own weird lexicons and horrendous fabricating attempts)--
is the primitive and contemptible megalomaniac false and imaginary god with a sick mind.And therefore, I have thus had to clearly and unmistakably expose this fellow/friend's (MoF)
deep megalomania, primitive and contemptible state of mind
with all crystal clear Verses of QURAN TESTAMENT (in all of my previous posts above).Because this is the most important Responsibility/Duty upon each and every truthful Servant of AL-LAH here,
to clearly and unmistakably prove the Fact that
AL-LAH is the One and Only Real GOD Truly Worthy of All-Praise, Perfectly Possessor of All-Judgment (=28/70)
WHO Establishes the Perfect Justice & Harmony & Peace for All (=2/256-257 = 60/8 = 110/1-3),and all of those false and imaginary gods --(these are called jibt and taghoot in QURAN TESTAMENT =4/51, 60)--
are the primitive and contemptible megalomaniacs who (by claiming themselves to be a "part" of God and then God) thus want to exploit
all the gullible and the naive, to make them "slaves" and "cronies" to themselves,and therefore, they should thus absolutely be exposed, first of all, and then must utterly be refuted and rejected
by all truthful Believers here. (=4/51)(*In this respect, for example
according to those weird lexicons of this fellow/friend (MoF) and his horrendous fabricating attempts therein
= the most important word "Allah" does not refer to God, --(in his false and imaginary Quran he concocted
based on his utterly deluded/crooked interpretations above), but it refers to "him" therein !!!
So according to "Surah 10 Verse 3" --(in his false and imaginary Quran therein), this Guy (MoF) would be the creator of heavens and earth
and the Lord of everyone therein !!!
(*and do not forget that because he thinks that he is already in a "symbiotic" partnership with his false and imaginary god therein
and so (in his sick mind) he thus sees it totally "normal" that this most important word "Allah" would thus "normally" refer to "him"
therein, first of all !!!)and then
=the word "harrama" does not mean "prohibit" --(in his false and imaginary Quran he concocted
based on his utterly deluded/crooked interpretations above), but it means "sanctify and bless" therein !!!
So according to "Surah 4 Verses 23-24" --(in his false and imaginary Quran therein), this Guy (MoF) sanctifies and blesses everyone
who would marry his own mother, or his own daughter/s, or his own sister/s, therein !!!As I clearly said earlier, this is not only a "BEWILDERING situation" here, but it is thus also and absolutely
a "TRAGIC situation" here!Because even after his such horrendously deluded/crooked interpretations are clearly exposed and unmistakably refuted and rejected
in QURAN TESTAMENT, --(*please, absolutely see all of those crystal clear Verses in this respect in my previous posts above)--this fellow/friend (MoF) still does not apologize even once, does not even say he is sorry even once here
for making such horrendously deluded/crooked interpretations
--(*because can a person who seriously thinks that he is a "partner" of God, and then eventually "himself" thus also God)--
can such a megalomaniac with such a deeply sick mind --(unless he truly diagnoses and decides to get rid of his horrendous diseases
of/in his mind first of all)-- ever accept that he can make such mistakes?Because as we clearly see, even without any shame and any remorse, at all, this fellow/friend (MoF) still continues to reply here
and this time wants to teach unto everyone herethat Iblees is not an existing person but a "primitive instinct" (=thus he also wants to indicate that everyone who rejects
his horrendously crooked/deluded interpretations above)
are indeed rejecting him based on nothing but only due to their such a "primitive instinct," here !!!==========
(*Iblees is an existing Person and the ancestor of all Jinns according to QURAN TESTAMENT =18/50 = 6/112-113
we will see these crystal clear Verses of QURAN TESTAMENT, clearly and openly, in my future replies here, inshaAL-LAH.And Iblees is the One who recruits and manipulates all such "Samarians" (=i.e. those who --knowingly or unknowingly-- serve Iblees
by trying to distort the clear and perfect Meaning of QURAN TESTAMENT by their such utterly crooked/deluded interpretations
above =17/64 = 16/98-99-100).So therefore, this fellow/friend (=MoF) is thus not only a "BEWILDERING situation" here, but as I clearly said earlier, this is also and absolutely
such a "TRAGIC situation" here.So finally, I want to sincerely and wholeheartedly say this again to him here
Therefore, I do not want to waste anymore time replying to your such satanic nonsense, dear fellow/friend (MoF),
because I believe I have already delivered to you (in each of my previous posts above)
all of those crystal clear Verses of QURAN TESTAMENT
which unmistakably proves that you are --(knowingly or unknowingly)-- such an easily manipulated guy by Iblees/Satan,
as it is clearly described hereQURAN TESTAMENT 17/64 = 6/71, 112-113 = 16/98-99-100
(*please, absolutely see all of these Verses above, clearly and openly delivered in my previous posts.)I have only very limited time every day to post here (one or two replies, at most),
so if you are a moral human-being with any decency and honesty that might have left in you,
you should wholeheartedly give ear to my sincere and truthful recommendation to you here,and thus immediately repent and return to our One and Only Lord AL-LAH in this most beautiful and rightful manner
for your Eternal Salvation and Everlasting Happiness here (=25/68-71, 72-76),and do not reply here anymore --(to expose and degrade yourself lower and lower with your such satanic nonsense above),
because from now on, I want to deliver all of those crystal clear Verses of QURAN TESTAMENT
in which our Lord AL-LAH unmistakably teaches us the clear and perfect meaning of these most important Words
(="RABB", and "ILAH",
and thereafter "Abd", and then "Malak", and thereafter we will also clearly learn who that "Iblees" and "Satan" is.)Because thus we will continue to rightfully learn from our Lord AL-LAH
in HIS perfectly clear (=mubeen) and straightforward (=qayyiman) and easy to understand (=yassarna) WORD (=QURAN TESTAMENT),
without any flaw/ambiguity in it (=la iwaja) therein, at all.
=QURAN TESTAMENT 15/1 = 39/28 = 54/17 = 18/1-2
Remain in peace/salaam.
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So according to and so according to... according to the sectarian interpretation fabrication of medieval times it says a lot of things which are against logic and just imagined. I would urge people to reflect on what it is they believe instead and how it holds together logically. What is "God" and is "God" a primitive beast? How come I am less emotional than "God", is it because "God" is weak or because that "God's" portrayal is weak. Why is that "God" seeking domination, which is an instinct? You see people just treat "God" as a worldly king, in a hierarchical alignment?
Beyond that it is pointless to proceed since I said what there is to say and it is not like you would care for me to elaborate. The scenario of why we are here in this world is so plain simple and it is a test on a massive scale. The world is put as the challenge and we ought to choose between two sides, the spiritual and the bodily, so it is quite straightforward. The corrupted ones are feeling and the spiritual ones are witted and sharp. Those who surrender to the bodily are going to be the sorry ones.
The OP asked what our ideal afterlife would be and I responded sincerely. That you wish to be slaves in a worldly "paradise" is not my problem and I am not forcing you anywhere else either.
Be well
Amenuel -
So according to and so according to... according to the sectarian interpretation fabrication of medieval times
it says a lot of things which are against "logic" and just "imagined."
I would urge people to reflect on what it is they believe instead and how it holds together "logically."
What is "God" and is "God" a primitive beast?Salaam/Peace MoF,
it is not according to this or that, but we should be thinking here always and absolutely according to
the most clear and straightforward and easy to understand and perfect (=15/1 & 39/28 & 18/1-2 & 54/17)
crystal clear Verses of QURAN TESTAMENT,
in which there is no flaw/ambiguity, and no discrepancy/crookedness, at all (=18/1-2 & 4/82),but because this TRUTH which has thus clearly and perfectly been taught by our Lord AL-LAH
in all of these crystal clear Verses of QURAN TESTAMENT above
are absolutely against your "logic" and "imagination"(=because the "logic" of such a megalomaniac, with a deeply sick mind
who always "imagine" himself to be a "partner" of God and then eventually thus "himself" to be God
in order to dominate all the gullible and the naive with his self-proclaimed "wisdom" and "insightfulness" herecan Never (even want to) see and can Never (even want to) hear The TRUTH (=18/101)
--unless he first truly diagnoses and then truly decides to get rid of his horrendous disease of/in his mind here, first of all 25/43 = 4/17-18)--
which has thus clearly and perfectly been taught by our Lord AL-LAH above.For this reason, our Lord AL-LAH has clearly and unmistakably exposed all of your horrendous fabricating attempts based on
your weird lexicons above, again and again,(*please, absolutely see all of those crystal clear Verses of QURAN TESTAMENT in this regard,
in each of my previous posts above.)that eventually, you have gone astray so far and directly exposed your horrendously sick and deluded state of mind
by claiming that the most Essential and important Word "AL-LAH" does not refer to "GOD" in Quran --(according to your claim),
but it refers to "Someone" who is insightful (=i.e. you yourself MoF) ?!?And our Lord AL-LAH has again clearly and unmistakably exposed your horrendous fabricating attempt also therein,
first of all, thus==========
3- ...... Thus, AL-LAH is your LORD (=RABBUKUM).
You shall serve HIM (=abudooHU) --not anyone else =12/40!
Will you still not take heed?
*but this awfully deluded and horrifically intoxicated fellow/friend (=Man of Faith) under the influence of Iblees/Satan above
does still mistakenly/wrongfully claim that"AL-LAH" is not our LORD (=RABB) --(according to him)-- but instead "AL-LAH" could be him!!! (*see it again with your own eyes
in his clear statement in that quote, at the very beginning above.)
32- ...... Thus, AL-LAH is your True LORD (=RABBUKUM) --not anyone else =6/164!
So what is after The TRUTH except straying?So, will you still be deceived and turned away --(by Iblees/Satan like this
awfully deluded fellow/friend (Man of Faith) above 17/64 = 6/71, 112-113)?
164- Say Shall I seek anyone other than AL-LAH as a LORD (=RABBAN) when HE is the LORD (=RABBU) of all things?
QURAN TESTAMENT 10/3, 32 & 6/164
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43- Have you seen the One who has taken his ego (=in Arabic hawahu) as his GOD (by claiming that
he "himself" is AL-LAH, or a "partner" of AL-LAH, or a "portion/share/piece/part" of AL-LAH,as this awfully deluded and horrifically intoxicated fellow/friend (Man of Faith) still indicates it for himself above, again and again.
Can you ever be an advocate over him (to guide or save him)?
(*especially, when/if he decides to be resolute not to resist the Satanic urge upon him and continue to trust "his being" (=i.e. "ego")
as he clearly confesses it in that quote, at the very beginning of that previous post above.)QURAN TESTAMENT 25/43
So therefore, we shall never believe and never serve, MoF, your primitive beast (=i.e. your false and imaginary god
you have thus concocted in your megalomaniac, deeply sick mind under the influence of Iblees/Satan above 17/64 = 6/71, 112-113),--(these kind of false and imaginary gods are called jibt and taghoot and they are thus utterly refuted and rejected
in QURAN TESTAMENT here 4/51, 60)--you may believe and serve your primitive beast (=false and imaginary god), as long as you wish,
in whatever "symbiotic" relationship/partnership you may want between you therein,
and you may thus also taste the fecal and urinary excrement of your primitive beast --(because according to Iblees/Satan,
all fecal and urinary excrement of all beasts on earth are also a natural and intrinsic portion/share/piece/part of this false and imaginary god
he concocted, in perfect "unity" therein! (*please, clearly see it in detail again in previous posts above.)and thereby, you may thus also let your naive and gullible flock of followers when/if you have any such (=25/43-44)
let them taste your own fecal and urinary excrement therein, because you still indicate that you are thus one of the highest-ranking "insightful" man
in that "hierarchy" established by Iblees/Satan therein,
so the taste of your fecal and urinary excrement should be the most "desirable" to such naive and gullible who would ever follow you therein (=25/43-44),and you may thus all together continue to enjoy the "sewage" of each other in perfect "unity!" under that false and imaginary god,
as Iblees/Satan thus promises to his enthusiastic followers under such an "insightful" man here (17/64 = 6/71, 112-113 = 59/16-17).But all truthful (Human, Jinn, and Angel) Servants of AL-LAH who are truly and wholeheartedly devoted to HIM Alone
will be in Paradise --(which encompasses the whole Universes =3/133 *please, absolutely see those crystal clear Verses in this respect
in my previous post above)-- as Honorable "Participants" (=i.e. as HIS truthful "Servants" therein =6/163 never as "partners" therein =17/111)
in HIS Most Equitable & Fair & Just & Peaceful "Eternal Sovereignty/Kingdom," forever. (=21/19-20, 26-29).And they will always be Thankful to AL-LAH for all of HIS countless Blessings unto them (=16/18),
and also and especially, for saving them from that megalomaniac Iblees/Satan and his human and jinn cronies
who wrongfully claim themselves to be "partners" of God and then eventually "themselves" God
in order to exploit all the naive and the gullible in those despicable ways we have seen above (17/64 = 6/71, 112-113 = 4/117-121).
(*the hierarchy of/in that Catholic Church and consequent Crusades in the dark ages, and all of those false Messiahs (Jim Jones, David Koresh, etc.)
in this Age are among the clear examples of such Exploitation of that megalomaniac Iblees/Satan and his human and jinn cronies therein,
in this World 5/17-18 = 5/72-74 = ......)So therefore, only those who truly repent and wholeheartedly return to "AL-LAH"
as our One and Only "LORD" (="RABB") here (=6/164)
Whose Individual/Personal BEING is absolutely Different/Separate/Distinct above and beyond all Universe/s, all Things we can
ever imagine above us,QURAN TESTAMENT 70/4 = 42/11 = 112/1-4
and so HE has never appointed no "Partners" to HIMSELF from any of HIS Servants (=i.e. Humans, Angels, Jinns, etc.),
in no way, at all,QURAN TESTAMENT 6/163 = 17/111
and HE has never ascribed no "Portion/Share/Piece/Part" to HIMSELF from any of HIS Servants (=i.e. Humans, Angels, Jinns, etc.),
in no way, at all,QURAN TESTAMENT 43/15 = 5/17-18 = 5/72-74 = 43/19-20
shall be forgiven and saved by AL-LAH in this Most Generous & Most Benevolent Manner here,
and they shall always be truthful Human Servants of AL-LAH, in Eternal Serenity & Peace & Victory, forever.=QURAN TESTAMENT 25/68-69-70-71, 72-73-74-75-76
Remain in peace/salaam.
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LastDay3,
Yes, but how are you so sure that the way you read words is how "God" compiled it to be read?
If you studied more than what meets the eye you would see the definitions chosen in the common interpretation is not so obvious.
Be well
Amenuel -
LastDay3,
Yes, but how are you so sure that the way you read words is how God compiled it to be read?
If you studied more than what meets the eye you would see the definitions chosen in the common interpretation is not so obvious.
Salaam/Peace MoF,
all the Words of/in QURAN TESTAMENT that are thus specifically chosen by our Lord AL-LAH therein
which --in their essential meaning & in their essential structure-- can never be changed (=la mubaddila lehu) (=6/114-115)are thus the most clear (=mubeen 15/1), straightforward (=qayyiman 39/2, easy to understand (=yassarna 54/17),
perfectly Chosen Words by our Lord AL-LAH therein,
which are also mentioned --not once but vast majority of them many times --as/in same root Words-- throughout the
whole QURAN TESTAMENT,that their essential meaning can thus also perfectly be checked and confirmed, again and again, throughout the QURAN TESTAMENT,
in such a perfectly clear and obvious and straightforward Manner, for all of HIS truthful Servants who wholeheartedly seek
the Perfect Guidance here (5/16 = 7/196),that thus there can never be found any flaw/ambiguity (=la iwaja) in it, and there
can never be found any crookedness/discrepancy (=la ahktilaf) in it, at all (=18/1-2 & 4/82).==========
(*And now --with regard to their essential meaning & with regard to their essential structure--
the Perfect Confirmation/Approval of each and every Word of QURAN TESTAMENT
by all of these Most Superb and Matchless MATHEMATIC/SCIENTIFIC MIRACLES of our Lord AL-LAH here,
in this Final Age, for all Humanity,
also and especially, now here, in the very first placehttp//www.19covenant19.com/Forum.html
So when/if Iblees-Satan --(by manipulating his such human and jinn followers here 17/64 = 6/71, 112-113)-- thus attempt to distort
the crystal clear and perfect meaning of any Words of/in QURAN TESTAMENTthat as/if they might thus fit into his satanic agenda somehow therein (=16/98-99-100 = 17/64 = 2/78 = 3/7,
these kind of deliberate "distortion" attempts (which are almost always based on those weird lexicons outside of QURAN) are thus
easily, clearly and unmistakably exposed and utterly refuted by our Lord AL-LAH in QURAN TESTAMENT --(when/if it is carefully read and
clearly investigated in its whole Context therein, first of all 7/200-201 = 75/17-19(*as we have clearly witnessed it in your such deliberate attempts of "distortion" under the influence of Iblees/Satan above,
and how they are easily, clearly and unmistakably exposed and utterly refuted therein,
when we carefully read and clearly investigate it in the whole Context of QURAN TESTAMENT, first of all,
in all of those previous posts above.)So in this respect, let me say this to you, finally, here again
Therefore, I do not want to waste anymore time replying to your such satanic nonsense, dear fellow/friend (MoF),
because I believe I have already delivered to you (in each of my previous posts above)
all of those crystal clear Verses of QURAN TESTAMENT
which unmistakably proves that you are --(knowingly or unknowingly)-- such an easily manipulated guy by Iblees/Satan,
as it is clearly described hereQURAN TESTAMENT 17/64 = 6/71, 112-113 = 16/98-99-100
(*please, absolutely see all of these Verses above, clearly and openly delivered in my previous posts.)I have only very limited time every day to post here (one or two replies, at most),
so if you are a moral human-being with any decency and honesty in you,
you should wholeheartedly give ear to my sincere and truthful recommendation to you here,and thus immediately repent and return to our One and Only Lord AL-LAH in this most beautiful and rightful manner
for your Eternal Salvation and Everlasting Happiness here (=25/68-71, 72-76),because from now on, I want to deliver all of those crystal clear Verses of QURAN TESTAMENT
in which our Lord AL-LAH unmistakably teaches us the fundamental and perfect meaning of these most important Words
(="RABB", and "ILAH",
and thereafter "Abd", and then "Malak", and thereafter we will also clearly see that "iblees" and "satan" therein =18/50-51).Because thus we will continue to rightfully learn from our Lord AL-LAH
in HIS perfectly clear (=mubeen) and straightforward (=qayyiman) and easy to understand (=yassarna) WORD (=QURAN TESTAMENT),
without any flaw/ambiguity in it (=la iwaja) therein, at all.
=QURAN TESTAMENT 15/1 = 39/28 = 54/17 = 18/1-2
Remain in peace/salaam.
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Salaam/Peace to All,
so let us clearly see here this most essential and important Word "RABB" (="LORD") in the QURAN TESTAMENT,
and its meaning---One and Only "AUTHORITY" Who can Establish All "Judgments" (="Hukm") as/in RELIGION---
is thus unmistakably and perfectly taught to us by our Lord AL-LAH therein,
now here thus==========
10- And any matter/issue you dispute in (here),
its "Judgment" (="Hukm" is with AL-LAH. Thus, AL-LAH is my "LORD" (=RABB)! ......26- ...... And HE (=AL-LAH) does Not make-Partner anyone in HIS "Judgment" (="Hukm"!
QURAN TESTAMENT 42/10 = 18/26
Therefore, only those who will obey the "Judgments" (="Hukm" of AL-LAH
--(all "Judgments" (="Hukm" of AL-LAH with regard to every matter-issue above
are thus totally written in QURAN TESTAMENT, thoroughly and clearly therein 6/114 = "4/65 = 105" = 24/51)--and do never set up anyone else as a "Partner" to AL-LAH in HIS "Judgments" (="Hukm"
are thus truthful Believers who have taken AL-LAHthus as their One and Only "LORD" (="RABB") above, in the very first place (42/10 = 18/26)!
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21- Or do they have "Partners" (="Shurakaa") who decree for them --("Judgments" = "Hukm"-- in Religion, though AL-LAH
has never permitted it! (*as we have clearly witnessed it in the above Verse, in the first place 18/26)31- (And) they have taken their "Religious Leaders" and "Scholars" to be "LORDS" (="ARBABAN" besides AL-LAH.
And (others also deified) the Messiah son of Mary.
Yet they were commanded to serve but One God. (Because) there is no God but HE.
So, Glorified is HE from all that they ascribe (to HIM) as "Partners" (="Shurakaa") --in HIS "Judgments,"*as we clearly see it in the above Verse 42/21 = 18/26, in the first place.)
QURAN TESTAMENT 42/21 = 9/31
Therefore, those who would follow such "Religious Leaders" and "Scholars" who decree extra "Judgments" (="Hukm" --outside of
the SCRIPTURE --(Which perfectly consists of all "Judgments" (="Hukm" of AL-LAH,
thoroughly and clearly therein 6/114 = 4/105 & 5/44-45 & 5/46-47--are thus untruthful believers who have taken those "Religious Leaders" and "Scholars"
thus as false "LORDS" (="ARBABAN" besides AL-LAH above (42/21 = 9/31)!
Because these "Religious Leaders" and "Scholars" should have rightfully been (--not false "LORDS" = "RABB")--
but rightfully true "Servants of the LORD" (="Rabbani")by judging among the people exclusively and only by the "Judgments" (="Hukm" of AL-LAH therein
=QURAN TESTAMENT 3/79 = 5/44 & ....
** all "Judgments" (="Hukm" of AL-LAH are thus perfectly written in the SCRIPTURE, thoroughly and clearly therein
5/44-45 = 5/46-47 = 5/48-49 = 6/114 = 4/105but because that these kind of "Religious Leaders" and "Scholars" above
have thus wrongfully claimed to be "Partners" (="Shurakaa" to AL-LAH in HIS "Judgments" (="Hukm", first of all,and thereby, they thus decreed extra "Judgments" (="Hukm" --outside of the SCRIPTURE sent down
by AL-LAH therein above 42/21 X 18/26 = 4/105 = 6/114--and thereupon they thus also wrongfully claimed themselves to be
a "Portion/Share/Piece/Part" of AL-LAH (=43/15) --(by claiming that they were HIS Own "Sons" = "Gods" therein! =5/18)--they have thus disastrously claimed themselves to be false "LORDS" (="RABB") besides AL-LAH (42/21 = 9/31)
instead of rightfully being such true "Servants of the LORD" (="Rabbani") therein (3/79 = 5/44), in the first place.
Remain in peace/salaam.
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actually MOF dnt beleive in quran what we have in our hand.. so giving any evidence from quran did not work for him,,
he is waiting for a prophethood , and scripture in which he will deliver a message to us a fresh and updated one...
lets see when he bring this news ...
or
another possibilites the arabic language which we know and everybody know from last many centuries , he disagree with the meanings of that arabic... according to the lexicon... so he is intepretting it another way... seems he traped in his own logic when applying it he find contradiction and contradiction again and again and again..
examples are haram... hahahaha i amazed how we fit that interpretation on other occassion of mother sisters thingie it bring totally different meanings hahahahahahahaha......
it was funny though...
but i m happy atleast he dare to take that challange atleast,, before him people like popular historian also tried it ,,
my history scholar once deleiver a lecture about a person who try to write an alternate of quran... its a true event
about the challange verses he decide to write a book alternate to quran...
he locked himself in the room.. and after a month somebody enter in his room .... what they see , papers and papers everywhere... hardly after writing a line he reject it by his own ,,
and the perosn he pay him visit ask him whats the matter with you , he replied from last one month i m trying to produce a chapter like this book quran and , everytime i wroote something i found it full of errors and contradiction what shoould i do...
and then suddenly he claim , this book is not a work off human , it must b from the lord of world.. so i better dnt waste my time ...
mr MOF i m amazed you told me once you are on a project of reinterpretating the work of quran... and i was shocked when you told me you already interprate a chapter, but what i feel from last one year you are unable to show me that work...
i think from two years you are correcting your work... and the mistakes like haram/bless thing is one of the example... isnnt it... so its mean i must have to forget that i will ever b able to see your projected work in this of my life...