How would you prove an atheist that The Quran is Indeed The Word Of God ?

huruf

I do not think anybody can bring a satisfactory proof to anybody else on anything like that, because the Qur'an is a ersonal exerience, if you do not experience the Qur'an anybody else cannot do anything for you and you will only experience the Qur'an if you want to. There nothing anybody can do to ersuade you to experience it or to want to experience it.

That is the difference between one and God, God can do anything, we cannot. God can persuade somebody in spite of himself, but we cannot and we re under the obligation of truthfulness, but we are under no obligation of making anybody else believe.

Salaam

Noon_waalqalami

Peace,

Usually it is first realization then Qur'an and remember years ago walking down the street and came to the conclusion that everything came from nothing! Then looking at code of life i.e. trillions of cells each has the complete blueprints to make another complete you with error correcting code, copy, delete, memory, dej? vu dreams of its own future, and other signs ? start out as a tiny spec, add water etc., and it grows to contemplate life and ask questions, innovate, create code to try recreate its own then read...

2130 have they not see the ones disregard they of that the firmaments and the land be dual sewn of so ripped we them dual and made we from the water each thing live then so not believing

huruf

Peace,

Usually it is first realization then Qur'an and remember years ago walking down the street and came to the conclusion that everything came from nothing! Then looking at code of life i.e. trillions of cells each has the complete blueprints to make another complete you with error correcting code, copy, delete, memory, dej? vu dreams of its own future, and other signs ? start out as a tiny spec, add water etc., and it grows to contemplate life and ask questions, innovate, create code to try recreate its own then read...

2130 have they not see the ones disregard they of that the firmaments and the land be dual sewn of so ripped we them dual and made we from the water each thing live then so not believing

I guess that wsas an experience for you. I wonder how many people have managed to convince, other than the convinced that what you understood is a reason to believe.

Unfortunately ppeole are no blank, wht they recive falls on something, and many times in religion and politics, it is a previous history of wranglingor boxing to see who has a better discussion punch. Finally the imortant question which is something as simple -or ascomplicated- as belief takes back seat to winning or loosing the discussion. One may lay that game for a while but at some point one reaches the conclusion that all one can do is tell his or her own experience of reasoning, and leave everything in God's hands.

Salaam

Man_of_Faith

to God we belong and to God we will return means.

we are in his kingdom and we will held accountable in the kingdom hereafter with in the full control of God...

so the people who try to kill jesus were spirtual... o

same like you also believe wordy derived meanings of words are actual meanings.. so indirectly you are also kaffir...?

or you are covered by your own interpretation... which is far from reality and logics... or covered

or kaffir according to quran is clearly one who disbeleive in God and its messages... or disbeleiver of quran

all three availiable understandings are pointing towards you that you are covered from false information based on your own inner made ideas... i m cofused what you are a deleuded person or a kaffir person or a covered person with his own thinking of words.. i mean i m not saying anything to you directly .i m asking what you define yourself in light of this..?

or a insightful person who know exact meanings of all Quran? on other words a new messenger/insightful person..

height of confusion , you are struggling with what you cannot solve... and prove... the meanings of your words are baseless actually...

No they are not baseless. They are actually based on definitions you can find in older lexicons. I am not struggling with anything, but your attitude shows you are running out of arguments but attack my arguments with nothing substantial in order to refute me. You resort to similar to ad hominem triggered by the instinct also known as Satan.

imrankhawaja

No they are not baseless. They are actually based on definitions you can find in older lexicons. I am not struggling with anything, but your attitude shows you are running out of arguments but attack my arguments with nothing substantial in order to refute me. You resort to similar to ad hominem triggered by the instinct also known as Satan.

exactly,,, you are right.. becoz u made up ur mind.. already..

ur definations and reasoning when filter in the light of quran hold no water...

for you satan jin , angels, controllers even God are something which my mind cannot accept becoz in the light of quran your claims again contradicting..

ur definations of haram is also one of the beauty .. which i was unable to understand.... &

i try to tell you hints lot of times but i feel you are not looking towards it... if you are a sincear belleiver abd confused about language , i shall advise you to understand how languages and words derived and usage happen in literal ways ... even with arabic .. then its easy for you to understand things...

your defiinations are really weired... sometimes.. thats shows you study/research/findings occur with very less care or unintelligent/confused/disturbed mind... appproach due to the lack of skills in understanding/comprehending of language..

so brotherly advise is for u first understand the behaviour how language reacts in real word..

Furqan

Salam good logic

Normally not translatedAnd if "that was any Quran", could be moved by it the mountains, or could be cloven asunder by it the earth, or could be made to by it the dead. Nay, with Allah (is) the command all. Then do not know those who believe that if Allah had willed surely, all of the mankind? And not will cease those who disbelieve to strike them for what they did a disaster, or it settles close from their homes until comes (the) Promise of Allah. Indeed, Allah (will) not fail (in) the Promise.
"That was any Quran"
I think it means "there was any Quran/reading"
Applying the translation
And if there was any reading, could be moved by it the mountains, or could be cloven asunder by it the earth, or could be made to by it the dead. Nay, with Allah (is) the command all. Then do not know those who believe that if Allah had willed surely, all of the mankind? And not will cease those who disbelieve to strike them for what they did a disaster, or it settles close from their homes until comes (the) Promise of Allah. Indeed, Allah (will) not fail (in) the Promise.

To me this makes more sense. There are people in this world who believe in superstitions, that they/humans can mend forces of nature by "Reading" ayaat of Book of Allah or some other readings
Like black magic white magic and other mumbo jumbo....

Man_of_Faith

exactly,,, you are right.. becoz u made up ur mind.. already..

ur definations and reasoning when filter in the light of quran hold no water...

for you satan jin , angels, controllers even God are something which my mind cannot accept becoz in the light of quran your claims again contradicting..

ur definations of haram is also one of the beauty .. which i was unable to understand.... &

i try to tell you hints lot of times but i feel you are not looking towards it... if you are a sincear belleiver abd confused about language , i shall advise you to understand how languages and words derived and usage happen in literal ways ... even with arabic .. then its easy for you to understand things...

your defiinations are really weired... sometimes.. thats shows you study/research/findings occur with very less care or unintelligent/confused/disturbed mind... appproach due to the lack of skills in understanding/comprehending of language..

so brotherly advise is for u first understand the behaviour how language reacts in real word..

My definitions are seldom even my own but from old established lexicons.

My arguments hold water because they are approved of by "God".

imrankhawaja

My arguments hold water because they are approved of by "God".

reallly

you are against the God according to 112...

or its better if i say you are against the secterian interpreation of God 112 isnt it

good_logic

Peace Furqan.

There is only ,has ever been, one Qoran, GOD could have used other words like Aayats( revelations) or Kitab( book) or other...But He used the word "Qoranan".Unless of course you know of other "Qoran".

The context of the verse is clearly saying most people will not believe,no matter what " proofs".
GOD bless you.
Peace

Man_of_Faith

reallly o

you are against the God according to 112...

or its better if i say you are against the secterian interpreation of God 112 isnt it

Yes it is. And Quran is against the Biblical Gospels due to the same reason while otherwise it would not be.

I said you are gullible towards the medieval interpreters like most others who follow blindly.

The word allah does not even refer to "God" as an address but Rabb is. Nor can allah be a proper noun since grammar prevents it.