Muslim and non Muslim ?

unknownuser

Peace be upon you Someone,

Peaceful is maybe a wrong translation. Peaceable seems appropriate for translating because a "muslim" can go on war for self-defense, a "muslim" can and should have weapons to defend himself (and eventually others).

Yes, but the "fight" is only to maintain the PEACE, and if the opponent calls for PEACE, we must stop fighting. Even in learning martial arts, one is told that PEACE is KEY.

marie

Peace brother Kyle,

Another view, to be muslim = to accept the god system, to enter in the god system.

Or when the God says the only accpetable system is "islam", it leaves one with a question that must be answered.

I think we are not far from the answer twisted

A. Shabir
2208 O You who have chosen to be graced with belief! Come, all of you, into submission to Him. Enter the System of Islam fully and collectively. Do not follow the footsteps of the Satan, your rebellious desire. Selfish desire that rebels against the Divine Values is your most ardent enemy. (Desire or emotion leads our actions while the intellect rationalizes them. Only the Divine Values given in the Qur?an can empower our higher control of the intellect).

319 Indeed the System of Life approved by Allah is Al-Islam (Submission to His Will). The people of the Scripture differ for self-interest and envy, after the Knowledge has come to them. One who rejects Allah's Revelations will find that His Law of Requital is swift in reckoning.

385 Whoever seeks as system other than Islam, it will not be accepted from him, and he will be a loser in the Hereafter. (This is because the religion, DEEN of the entire Universe is Islam i.e. submission to the will of God).

unknownuser

Peace be upon you Marie,

Exactly! Good job D

Wakas

peace be upon you all,

literal
muslim = one who complies/conforms/submits/surrenders

To what? to what we have been naturally inclined/programed upon

Some science is looking into this possibility
recent Time Magazine article
The God Gene How Faith is Hardwired into our Genes

For simplicity reasons, an acceptable English translation would be

monotheist

Wakas

unknownuser

Peace be upon you Wakas,

I understadn you usage of monotheist, but I feel that takes away too much of the intended meaning. Peace should definately be a part of the meaning, I do not get that from "monotheist". Also, I personally have another word as monothesist that is related to Abraham, I cannot recall the verse right now.

Someone

Peace,

A peaceable person is a person disposed to peace. In other words, this person has imposed on his/her self the peace. This person has submited to the peace, and the peace is one of the attributes of the god.

Thus, I submit to the lord of the skies and the earth, and I'm of the peaceables.

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unknownuser

Peace be upon you,

What about "peaceful"?

Someone

Peace upon you kyle,

The reality is that this life is a test, and by default cannot be peaceful. Claiming to be peaceful is escaping/rejecting the reality. In this life, we have to work to obtain the peace and maintain it.

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unknownuser

Peace be upon you Someone,

The reality is that this life is a test, and by default cannot be peaceful

But we are talking about a description for people who submit to the God's system, we are not loking for a description of Life.

. Claiming to be peaceful is escaping/rejecting the reality. In this life, we have to work to obtain the peace and maintain it.

Yes, our essential nature is PEACE because we come from THE PEACE(God) and we return to The PEACE(God). And the God is the REALITY, therefore Peace is a reality. It is NON-PEACE that is the PERVERSION from reality.

So peaceful describes your current actions, peaceABLE seems to indicate you are ABLE to manifest peace, but we need more than the ability, we need to DO IT, we need to be peaceful, not peace-able.

What are your thoughts respected brother?

Someone

Peace upon you brother kyle, all

Peaceable is the first state or step or level in the path of the god. There are many levels depending on eachone's awarness of the creator.

Furthermore, asking or commanding someone to be peaceful is depriving him of his freedom and right to defend himself, and if peaceful is taken to the extrem, it can mean to remain silent, montionless, which is the case of people under tyrants or in prisons.

These are some thoughts, and the god surely is more knowlegeable.

drfazl

Brothers,

A muslim is, one who at the time of death, as malayikas capture his mind and soul, is to be greeted with "Salamun Alaikkum - May Peace Be Upon You". Muslim is one who is sure to be blessed on the Day when he departs his mind to travel into the soul to enter the "garden of peace" as a reward for his good deeds with belief in his Lord and in the hereafter.

May Allah Bless All.