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What makes food Halal?

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    Aladin_from_Azra_tribe
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    Very interesting examples.

    Dobrodo?la welcome

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      Rekkd
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      That article doesn't talk about animal welfare. Factory farm raised animals are not halal because of the way the animals are treated. We shouldn't be supporting an industry that abuses animals and deprives them of their basic needs such as space, fresh air, grass, and sunlight.

      "And the earth He has made for all creatures." (5510)

      "He brought forth from it its water and pasture.
      And the mountains He fixed firmly.
      All this to be a provision for you and your livestock." (7931-33)

      Why would humans have livestock if they're not going to eat them?

      Yes God has made the earth for all creatures, yet in his system these creatures eat each other. Thus nothing wrong with eating beef, chicken or wtvr.

      For males, going vegan or vegetarian decreases testosterone, unless that male goes on a strict diet which becomes very hard to maintain.

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        virginia
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        Why would humans have livestock if they're not going to eat them?

        Yes God has made the earth for all creatures, yet in his system these creatures eat each other. Thus nothing wrong with eating beef, chicken or wtvr.

        For males, going vegan or vegetarian decreases testosterone, unless that male goes on a strict diet which becomes very hard to maintain.

        Salam

        Imo, too. It is not about eating meat or not, but the way it is produced and if we are respecting or not His creation

        260 (...) "Eat and drink from the provisions of God, and do not roam (ta'thaw) the earth as corrupters (muf'sidina) ."

        PRL Ayn-Tha-Waw = to do evil, perpetrate crime, act corruptly/wickedly
        PRL Fa-Sin-Dal = to become evil/corrupted, invalid, decomposed, bad/spoiled/tainted, wrong, vicious, make mischief or foul deal. fasad - corruption/violence.

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          Timotheus
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          That article doesn't talk about animal welfare. Factory farm raised animals are not halal because of the way the animals are treated. We shouldn't be supporting an industry that abuses animals and deprives them of their basic needs such as space, fresh air, grass, and sunlight.

          "And the earth He has made for all creatures." (5510)

          "He brought forth from it its water and pasture.
          And the mountains He fixed firmly.
          All this to be a provision for you and your livestock." (7931-33)

          Peace, you shouldn't assert that something is not halal when God has not forbidden it explicitly, as we are reminded in the Quran, it is inventing a lie about God

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            Amra94
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            Why would humans have livestock if they're not going to eat them?

            Yes God has made the earth for all creatures, yet in his system these creatures eat each other. Thus nothing wrong with eating beef, chicken or wtvr.

            For males, going vegan or vegetarian decreases testosterone, unless that male goes on a strict diet which becomes very hard to maintain.

            I didn't say anything about not eating meat.
            Not sure where you got your information from but studies show the opposite actually, vegan men have higher testosterone. Look it up.

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              Rekkd
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              I didn't say anything about not eating meat.
              Not sure where you got your information from but studies show the opposite actually, vegan men have higher testosterone. Look it up.

              Ok so better treatment of animals, I thought you're one of those vegans that would start shaming people for eating meat, since your first post is kinda related to that.

              I'm sorry but studies show that vegans have lower testosterone unless they go on very strict diets which makes it very hard to maintain for long periods of time. Ofcourse you'll find different points of view from different sources. In the end it just depends on personal preferences.

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                How can anyone say no to this

                http//www.tuckingawesome.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/grilled-pepper-steak.jpg

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                  Amra94
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                  Ok so better treatment of animals, I thought you're one of those vegans that would start shaming people for eating meat, since your first post is kinda related to that.

                  I'm sorry but studies show that vegans have lower testosterone unless they go on very strict diets which makes it very hard to maintain for long periods of time. Ofcourse you'll find different points of view from different sources. In the end it just depends on personal preferences.

                  Depends who's funding the studies and how much exercise the participants get..
                  When it comes to vegan diet, idk what this "strict diet" is that you're talking about. Simply increasing fat intake will raise T. levels. Obviously the focus should be on eating healthy fats, not saturated fat. Most healthy fats come from plants anyway.

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                    Depends who's funding the studies and how much exercise the participants get..
                    When it comes to vegan diet, idk what this "strict diet" is that you're talking about. Simply increasing fat intake will raise T. levels. Obviously the focus should be on eating healthy fats, not saturated fat. Most healthy fats come from plants anyway.

                    Saturated fat is the healthy fat. The rest is bad. The misconception that saturated fat is dangerous comes from combining carbs with saturated fat, while we should be eating mainly fat and not carbs

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                      Amra94
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                      Saturated fat is the healthy fat. The rest is bad. The misconception that saturated fat is dangerous comes from combining carbs with saturated fat, while we should be eating mainly fat and not carbs

                      It's not a "misconception" when over 400 metabolic ward studies show that higher saturated fat intake increases cholesterol and the ONLY thing that promotes atherosclerosis is cholesterol. Heart disease is the leading cause of death worldwide so I'd say saturated fat is pretty dangerous.

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                        It's not a "misconception" when over 400 metabolic ward studies show that higher saturated fat intake increases cholesterol and the ONLY thing that promotes atherosclerosis is cholesterol. Heart disease is the leading cause of death worldwide so I'd say saturated fat is pretty dangerous.

                        You misunderstood me. I said that saturated fat is dangerous when our main source of energy is carbohydrates. Otherwise, saturated fat increases HDL (good cholesterol) and decreases LDL (bad cholesterol)...

                        It's a misconception because our bodies are meant to be on fat rather than carbohydrates. Note that obesity increases at the same time as the world switches to carbohydrates (by the end of 1970s).

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                          Rekkd
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                          Depends who's funding the studies and how much exercise the participants get..
                          When it comes to vegan diet, idk what this "strict diet" is that you're talking about. Simply increasing fat intake will raise T. levels. Obviously the focus should be on eating healthy fats, not saturated fat. Most healthy fats come from plants anyway.

                          The thing with vegan diet is the amount of fats that you get is always pretty low, thus we would have to increase our food intake and eat like there is no tomorrow. Vegan diets are also pretty low in proteins, thus men tend to go towards soy which decreases testosterone. It's always best to have some of everything.

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                            You misunderstood me. I said that saturated fat is dangerous when our main source of energy is carbohydrates. Otherwise, saturated fat increases HDL (good cholesterol) and decreases LDL (bad cholesterol)...

                            It's a misconception because our bodies are meant to be on fat rather than carbohydrates. Note that obesity increases at the same time as the world switches to carbohydrates (by the end of 1970s).

                            We're meant to live off saturated fat? Are you denying the hundreds of studies that show HIGHER saturated fat intake increases LDL cholesterol?

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                              Amra94
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                              The thing with vegan diet is the amount of fats that you get is always pretty low, thus we would have to increase our food intake and eat like there is no tomorrow. Vegan diets are also pretty low in proteins, thus men tend to go towards soy which decreases testosterone. It's always best to have some of everything.

                              Did you come to those conclusions because you've tried eating this way before? Probably not.

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                                Rekkd
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                                Did you come to those conclusions because you've tried eating this way before? Probably not.

                                Anyways It's useless arguing about this "vegan" topic. I am against animal cruelty, how animals are treated in farms and what they are doing to dogs, cats, cayotes in China, Korea and many other Asian countries.

                                Welcome to the forum

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                                  We're meant to live off saturated fat? Are you denying the hundreds of studies that show HIGHER saturated fat intake increases LDL cholesterol?

                                  Yes, no )

                                  These hundred studies are done while already eating carbohydrates.

                                  Carbohydrates+fat=increased LDL
                                  Saturated fat as main energy source instead of carbohydrates=Increased HDL levels, decreased LDL levels.

                                  Even unsaturated fat lowers cholesterol overall when minimizing carbohydrate intake

                                  We are meant to live off fat, which saturated fat makes out the most.

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                                    Amra94
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                                    Anyways It's useless arguing about this "vegan" topic. I am against animal cruelty, how animals are treated in farms and what they are doing to dogs, cats, cayotes in China, Korea and many other Asian countries.

                                    Welcome to the forum

                                    Thanks

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                                      Amra94
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                                      Yes, no )

                                      These hundred studies are done while already eating carbohydrates.

                                      Carbohydrates+fat=increased LDL
                                      Saturated fat as main energy source instead of carbohydrates=Increased HDL levels, decreased LDL levels.

                                      Even unsaturated fat lowers cholesterol overall when minimizing carbohydrate intake

                                      We are meant to live off fat, which saturated fat makes out the most.

                                      Saturated fat is good for the heart. Carbs are the enemy. giveup Can't be bothered with this tbh

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                                        A_Submitter
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                                        Saturated fat is good for the heart. Carbs are the enemy. giveup Can't be bothered with this tbh

                                        handshake welcome

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