The Quran is NOT sufficient
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peace be upon you Roshan,
I dont see how it is "very different" to mine. Remember, Daniel Brown presents evidence from both sides. I suggest you thoroughly read my summary, better yet, buy the book yourself.
Wakas
Peace Wakas
Yes, I am thinking about doing so and am making enquiries about it's content.
Roshan
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Stat strong brother and know that GOD is with you so nothing can harm you without his will. Leave those hypocrits at the mosque and do your own thing. Have some kids and make your own army of true Muslims and start your own community. Seriously man i think we need to set up a base and be trained militarly and fight the evil doers and hypocryts and take them out of power.
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Peace Damon & Idol & All,
We could probably fill a long thread with these stories. )
I neglected to mention a debate with an attorney who is also hafeez of quran. He got so caught up in trying to prove his point he said to me ?FORGET ABOUT THE QUR'AAN? and accused me of being too logical. However, as soon as the words left his lips, he recognized his folly. We all laughed and agreed that we had to do this (debate) again. Even though he was hafeez (a lot of useless parroting) I would give him time to prepare for me to ?hurl? the truth at the falsehood. That also made him smile. I think being away from the madrassah and here in NY he is starting to mellow. God is the guide.
Are there Quran alone study groups in NYC?
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Salaam Khadija,
I'm not sure. There are many of us abiding around and in the state of NY. Some of us are in Queens others are in Brooklyn or upstate. Try searching the memberlist at the top of the forum to see who lives where or just go to the North America section.
Joe
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Ansar,
you need to relook over Quraanic Islamic History, during the Time after the death of the Prophet, there were Those Sahabbah that advocated the Use of the Quraan ALONE, they where know as the Hizb Qari, they advocated the USE of the Divine ahadith, as this is what ALLAH called the Quraan, a Hadith.
The Enemies of True ISLAM, who where the victors in the War between the Believers and the WOrshipers of Mohammad, called the Believers Khawarji, yet these so called Khawarji wherein fact the Real Followers of the Prophet Mohammad, and the LIGHT that came With Him(ie the Quraan). Even Imam Ali was a friend of the Hizb Qari and the Shurat, as he to advocated the use of the Quraan Alone, Imam Ali even had the Quraan placed in Revelation Order!
Ansar the sad part about you is that all you accept is what your SUNNI masters have taught you! You will not take the time to search for yourself.
I know your Fiqh, very well, i know how yall Ahl us Sunnah folks do yall thing, your no diffrent from the intolorance of the PAGANS of MEKKA in the time of the Prophet! WHO BY the way where keepers of the Ahadith!Fact is Ahadih and Sunnah are as old as Arabian Pagan Society, in Fact that is why ALLAH asks us in Quraan which HADITH other then the Quraan do we accept? this Question was aksed because ALLAH knew that the Pagans did in fact intend to Idolize the Prophet through Ahadith and SUnnah!
ANd as far as what the Pagan Sunnis say, Heck an Ebad u Ellah such as my self could careless, and infact we Ebad u Ellah are more then ready and willling to meet yall cowards head on! We know Allah is on the side of the Ebad and that we are destin to Wipe your Maddness off the face of this earth (Insah'ellah soon).....Of the God Alone/Quraan alone We Ebad are the Vanguard of Pain for you Hard head Sunnis!
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1)Did the prophet follow the Quran ALone?
2)Did the companions follow the Quran ALone?
3)Are all religious orders contained in the Quran?
4)Is Quran the only revelation?The answer for the above four questions is NO. I have came to that conclusion in the light of the Quran. I would very much like to see your arguments which say otherwise.
The above four questions are enough to realize that sunna of prophet Muhammad is Islamic and binding upon the true believers to follow"Rally your cavalry, Satan plots, but Allah is the best plotter" shock
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Salaam Aleikum Eranmad,
Do you believe that all hadiths are true even those which are clear contradiction to Qur'an message?
Do you believe that Qur'an verses are abrogated according to Bukhari?
Do you believe that verses containing punishment for adultery to stonning to death was chewed by the Aisha (R.A) goat, according to Bukhari?
Please answer these question. inshaAllah we will discuss more on the subject.
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Dear Eranmad,
1)Did the prophet follow the Quran ALone?
Yes he did!!
And when Our clear revelations are recited to them, those who do not wish to meet Us said "Bring a Quran other than this, or change it!" Say "It is not for me to change it from my own accord, I merely follow what is inspired to me. I fear if I disobey my Lord the retribution of a great day!"
And We have sent down to you the Scripture with truth, authenticating what is present of the Scripture and superseding it. So judge between them by what God has sent down, and DO NOT follow their desires from what has come to you of the truth. For each of you We have made laws, and a structure; and had God willed, He would have made you all one nation, but He tests you with what He has given you; so strive to do good. To God you will return all of you, and He will inform you regarding that in which you dispute.
And judge between them by what God has sent down, and DO NOT follow their wishes, and beware lest they divert you away from some of what God has sent down to you. If they turn away, then know that God wants to inflict them with some of their sins; and most of the people are corrupt.
6943 A revelation from the Lord of the worlds.
6944 And had he attributed anything falsely to Us.
6945 We would have seized him by the right.
6946 Then, We would have severed his life-line.
6947 None of you would be able to prevent it.2)Did the companions follow the Quran ALone?
Of course, for two important reasons.......
1). If they were in the company of the prophet, there were NO SUCH THING as hadith of the prophet since the hadith did not come about until years after the prophets death.
Second of all, if the prophet himself was forbidden from following anything other than the Quran, he obviously set a good example in obeying GOD's orders and upholding His absolute authority alone. So if "ANYONE" followed "ANYTHING" other than the Quran, then they were NOT companions, comrades, associates or friends of the prophet.
Also, GOD has this to say to you and all the other idolworshipers who follow hadith.....
6836 What is wrong with you, how do you judge?
6837 Or do you have another book which you study?
6838 In it, you can find what you wish?3)Are all religious orders contained in the Quran?
This one is a serious no brainer.
6114 "Shall I seek other than God as a judge when He has sent down to you this Scripture fully detailed?" Those to whom We have given the Scripture know it is sent down from your Lord with truth; so do not be of those who have doubt.
6115 And the word of your Lord has been completed with truth and justice; there is no changing His words. He is the Hearer, the Knower.
So the answer, once again, is yes.
4)Is Quran the only revelation?
Yes. I direct your attention once again to 1015 which I have already posted above.
The answer for the above four questions is NO
Wrong again. The correct answer for all four questions, based on GOD's Book, is an uncompromising yes.
I have came to that conclusion in the light of the Quran.
You're obviously not reading The Quran!! However, I can see how you can come to that conclusion in light of the hadith. roll
I would very much like to see your arguments which say otherwise.
Well if you look at this post so far, you would notice that these arguments do say otherwise....and they are not my arguments, they are GOD's arguments from HIS revelation (The Quran).
The above four questions are enough to realize that sunna of prophet Muhammad is Islamic and binding upon the true believers to follow
The above four questions have been adequately refuted by GOD Himself. Back to the drawing board for you dude.
"Rally your cavalry, Satan plots, but Allah is the best plotter" shock
True indeed. I just hope you and the rest of the hadithian race will soon wake up and realize the reality of this situation. roll
GOD Alone/Quran Alone,
Damon.