For those who believe the Restricted Temple is in Jerusalem
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Has no one ever thought about this??
Hasn't it even crossed your mind?
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peace,
in my understanding, thats talking about the prophecies that have already taken place concerning the destruction of the temple in jerusalem.
take the quran in its context, it attests to the truth of the previous scriptures and is a preservation/gaurdian over them.
we do have the blessing of the previous scriptures, and it fills in much of the gaps
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We have to study the previous Scriptures to understand the Quran better. I am still reading the OT. I completed the NT, the second temple was destroyed a few years after Jesus, the son of Mary, the Messiah went to Heaven. So in the OT I am now reading about Solomon building the first temple. We really have to accept the light and guidance that God had sent down to us in the previous Scriptures if we want to grasp the right understanding. We will have a leader, Jesus, son of Mary, the Messiah will return from Heaven after the coming of the Ant-Christ. They say that the 3rd temple needs to be build before the Anti-Christ can take place there and declare himself "God", and after then Jesus, the son of Mary, the Messiah will be sent down by God from the Heaven to rule over the world. This information can be found in the Gospel. And about the 3rd temple they say it's written in the OT, but I still have to read the OT. I completed only the Gospel. So I still have to read about the 3rd temple. It's very important, to believe in the Books of God. And God told us to let the people of the Gospel rule with the Gospel. It's a lot of Books. I want to advice you to read them, so that you can come to your own conclusion based on the word of God.
If you really want to understand what the Restricted Temple is, then read the Torah. The Quran was sent down by a reason, and we can't ignore the previous Books that were sent down. In the Torah we read about the Restricted Temple? The place were the high priest goes into just once in a year, it's forbidden to enter it, the priest only enters it once in a year and the reasons etc. can be found in the Torah. I am still reading the other Scriptures and it's a long time ago that I have read the Torah. I advice you to read the Torah brother. Seek and you will find.
I also have my questions about the Kebba and the Restricted Temple. May the Lord guide me.
What are you talking about 1st, 2nd, 3rd temple?
There is only 1 Restricted Temple, and it's in Jerusalem, on the platform, where the the Rock is...
I'm not asking where the Temple is, my question was; how are we going to take back the Temple? We have no leader, we have no unification...These will come from God; but it wouldn't hurt to understand more.
It's surprising no one has thought about it, or perhaps fear persecution and exposure. The net isn't exactly the safest place.
Salam
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Do you really want to "take back" the Dome of The Rock? Else, wait for the 3rd rebuilding, when Jesus, the son of Mary, the Messiah will be sent by God, after the coming of the Anti-Christ. Prepare yourself, your kids, and your blood line.
Join the lines, God is our Leader, and Jesus the son of Mary, the Messiah will be Gods instrument.
There is no "lets take it back", you have to study the Torah and the Gospel and the Quran.
Else you will end up like Abu Bakr Al Baghdadi, who probably still is shouting that he is the "caliph" of "the Islamic state".
Antichrist? Never heard of this in Quran...And Jesus returning? Sounds a lot like sectarians "Mahdi will return". No such thing in Quran.
And "Abu Bakr al Baghdadi", I doubt he has a son named Bakr, was installed by Israel and the West, and they failed miserably. And they don't even know anything about Submission.
There is indeed "a taking back". Quran suffices.
Salam
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What Temple are you talking about? Have you read the Torah and the Gospel already? Or are you talking about that mosque that's called the dome of the rock near the AlAqsa Mosque? Do you even know who did build the dome of the rock? That mosque with a golden dome? Do you want to know what's going to come in its place?
Who is we? Don't you think that the Jews are waiting to build the 3rd Temple? Don't you think people are preparing for the coming of the Anti-Christ who will take a seat on the new temple which probably will be build on the place where the dome of the rock now stands near the AlAqsa Mosque? Don't you think that the Jews are waiting for the 2nd coming of Jesus, the Son of Mary, the Messiah?
You have to study the Torah to understand who does run the Temple. Or do you think that that golden dome of the rock is the Temple? It's just a building that's being used by Sunni's, do you even know who have build it? I am not talking about the Al Aqsa Mosque now. Don't get confused with the Dome of The Rock and the Al Aqsa Mosque.
We=Believers.
I don't have to study Torah or Gospel, Quran suffices.
The Rock is the station of Abraham=restricted shrine=Restricted Temple. Al-Aqsa is like any other mosque, probably built by sectarians.
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So what's written in 547? Then, your 2nd step, read the Gospel and believe in it just like God told you in 2285 and if you still don't believe the Gospel is inspired by God then read 33 and 2946.
Those who curse the children of Jacob won't succeed. The only solution is to submit to God alone.
I advice you to read the Torah and the Gospel if you want to understand the system of the Temple.
I'm not of "the people of Gospel". I believe in it, but I don't need it.
Where have I cursed the Children of Israel?
And what proof do you have that cursing the Children of Israel=won't succeed? What kind of divinity does the Children of Israel hold? I'm not looking for excuse to curse them. You're spreading lies. In fact, those who won't succeed are those who spread lies!I agree that the only solution is to submit to God alone. I hope you have submitted.
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The Anti-Christ and the 2nd coming of Jesus, the Son of Mary, the Messiah is written in the Gospel. And God told you in the Quran to believe in the Gospel. So if you are not believing in the coming of the Anti-Christ, and the 2nd coming of the Messiah, then you are disbelieving the Gospel, thus disbelieving in some verses of the Quran.
And don't make an excuse that sectarians believe in a "Mahdi", and in the 2nd coming of the Messiah and the Anti-Christ. They believe in a different one, one eyed, etc. etc. etc. just copy and pasted from the Gospel and added their own doctrines to it.
Your Gospel is corrupt.
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Well if you do not want to study the Torah and the Gospel, and if you want to reject some verses in the Quran, then I wish you good luck with your "we" and "taking back".
Because you have to understand one thing, the Temple is bigger then your knowledge of what you actually think the Temple is at the moment.
Quran still suffices
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Do you really want to "take back" the Dome of The Rock? Else, wait for the 3rd rebuilding, when Jesus, the son of Mary, the Messiah will be sent by God, after the coming of the Anti-Christ. Prepare yourself, your kids, and your blood line.
I will for sure join him whenever he comes, but how will I recognize him? And what is exactly his mission?
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Read the Gospel, it's written in Aramaic. You read in detail about how you can recognize the Anti-Christ and the Messiah.
Are you by any chance Adam The Warner?
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Do you really understand what you are saying?
How can someone say "I am not of the people of the Quran", and say I believe in it, but I don't need it.
May the Lord guide you, and may He guide me.
Oh, I meant Abu Bakr Al Baghdadi with that. I didn't mention your name there. I was thinking that you would have understood the context.
To be honest, I still have to read some Scriptures that can be found in the Bible. So I still have to learn a lot about the Temple. It's better for me to stop this discussion.
All I have learned, and what I wanted to tell you is, read the Torah and the Gospel if you want to understand the Quran with Light and Guidance. God told us that the Torah and the Gospel are a Light and a Guidance, and He told us to believe in it.
Saying that you believe in something, while the believe haven't entered your heart is another thing. I should take that statement not seriously. Just look in the mirror, and ask yourself What would you think about someone telling you that he believes in the Quran, but yet he rejects it, doesn't want to read it, doesn't want to believe in what is written in it, doesn't want to follow it etc.
It means, I believe in it, but I don't judge by it. Quran suffices...
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Bring us your proof that the Gospel is changed?
Maybe The Gospels never changed but the indjieel as it is used in the quran can never be The Gospels you are are talking about.
The Gospels have authors like Matthew who narrate the life of a person called Jesus, if the Indjieel is the same as The Gospels then you are saying God gave Jesus a book with his own life in it, written/composed by someone who is believed to have written/composed it a couple of decades after Jesus died. So Jesus could actually read his own future in a written book given to him by God and written by someone else.
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Tell us, who are these people in 547,
ahl al indjeel
and what is the Gospel then?
narrations about a person called Jesus
Or are you rejecting the Gospel, and just assuming because other people are saying it also?
I am not rejecting the Gospels I have one at home yes never read it though but I am not rejecting the book, it has a nice place in my bookcase.
I am just saying indjeel in the quran is not the book I have at home. -
I am just saying indjeel in the quran is not the book I have at home.
and no body actually have that in home.. along with other scriptures that mention in quran..
it seems God never planned to preserve those scriptures due to a reason.. ?
logically its also a hint for people to come towards the path of peacemaking system.. the system of God alone..
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and no body actually have that in home.. along with other scriptures that mention in quran..
it seems God never planned to preserve those scriptures due to a reason.. ?
logically its also a hint for people to come towards the path of peacemaking system.. the system of God alone..
Or it is a no book in the first place?
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Salam,
I think I'm asking the wrong question...
Are there any members here who thinks the Restricted Temple is in Jerusalem?
Salam
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By Arabic words, yes, but the meaning is lost in interpretation.
Jerusalem was a jerusalem which is a model for the people by definition of the original meaning of the word. Jerusalem, or Ye ' rasela ' m as it should be pronounced and understood properly, i.e. the word rasool is used in the word. Almesejed alharam is "proper/goodly submission" as in doing the right thing, and that the modern Jerusalem before its fall did not represent.
But Mekka does hardly represent proper procedure either, if it ever did since Islam is the work of delusional clergymen.
This is how these clergymen wished to move the "MH" to Mekka because they saw that they purified their old creed and were true to Abraham. Their problem is that they thought MH was a physical building and not the actual teaching being practiced itself. Instead, that building in Mekka became a Pagan symbol which people venerated much like the temple in Jerusalem. They put the holiness of God into a lifeless building of stone while no structure is holier than its inhabitants at any time. No physical object can ever be holy. If the practitioners at a location are sound (Islam) then they represent MH, but unless they are there cannot be any MH.
And MH is in the mind of a person or people.
It is true, Sejeda means submission while Islam does not but refers to what is in soundness/order/balance/harmony. Its antonyms are disorder, chaos and imbalance.
Be well
Qarael Amenuel