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    HP_TECH
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    AlHamdulilLahiRabilalAmeen

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      924 Say, "If are your fathers, and your sons, and your brothers, and your spouses, and your relatives, and wealth that you have acquired and the commerce, you fear a decline (in) it and the dwellings you delight (in) it (are) more beloved to you than Allah, and His Messenger and striving in His way, then wait until Allah brings His Command. And Allah (does) not guide the people - the defiantly disobedient."

      5822 You will not find a people who believe in Allah and the Day the Last loving (those) who oppose Allah and His Messenger even if they were their fathers or their sons or their brothers or their kindred. Those - He has decreed within their hearts faith and supported them with a spirit from Him. And He will admit them (to) Gardens, flow from underneath it the rivers, will abide forever in it. Allah is pleased with them, and they are pleased with Him. Those (are the) party (of) Allah. No doubt! Indeed, (the) party (of) Allah, they (are) the successful ones.

      • 708 On the Day the heaven is like molten copper.
      • 709 And the mountains are like wool.
      • 7010 And no friend will ask about his friend.
      • 7011 When they see it, the criminal will wish he can ransom his children against the retribution.
      • 7012 And his mate and his brother.
      • 7013 And his relatives who sheltered him.
      • 7014 And all who are on the earth, so that he can be saved!

      They would offer YOU for ransom without a thought
      Don't love anything or anyone more than Allah

      What if I do not love anything at all?

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        confused hmm ! wow
        A man fish!
        No, that's not it.
        A rare fish who is also a man?
        A MERMAN! tempt
        Almost tempted to catch you. > ALMOST. tempt
        The only known specimen in the world. Aquaman doesn't count. Aquaman is #not-a-real-merman.

        Sorry to disappoint you, I am as bashari as any other ordinari al insi or al jini
        And the whispers you receive are off I am afraid.
        So WHAT are you?

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          What if I do not love anything at all?

          Oh please you love yourself so much you have convinced yourself that you're an actual prophet.
          You follow your desires
          You keep making these grandiose claims about the mistranslations of Quran yet you do not wish to provide a clear helpful methodology for reaching those conclusions.
          You do not want to share your sources, lexicons or whatever you are utilizing or perhaps it is because you are not actually utilizing anything but your own whim
          Or perhaps as you have stated it is something only you are destined for.
          It is your mission as a prophet to reveal the hidden truth and meaning which no other but you alone can accomplish.
          Nay, if you were a prophet, then what a prophet. You seek honor and glory
          Prophets shared their wisdom and knowledge and taught those willing to learn by the permission of Allah

          How many times have I asked for a clear explanation and methodology and you turned empty handed?

          You love but yourself Amenuel above all

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            What if I do not love anything at all?

            I hope your wife doesn't read this ;D, or maybe you have convinced people around you that love is also an instinct and should be suppressed?

            Salam

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              Thanks for answers everyone. It's clear to me now.

              Salam

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                I hope your wife doesn't read this ;D, or maybe you have convinced people around you that love is also an instinct and should be suppressed?

                Salam

                We have a certain union between us. It is not love to me.

                (Affectionate) Love is an instinct. And it may cause you to behave irrationally in particular situations.

                Therefore it is best not to love anything at all. Care on the other hand, it is something developmental. I seek to care for everyone, even those who oppose me.

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                  We have a certain union between us. It is not love to me.

                  (Affectionate) Love is an instinct. And it may cause you to behave irrationally in particular situations.

                  Therefore it is best not to love anything at all. Care on the other hand, it is something developmental. I seek to care for everyone, even those who oppose me.

                  What do you say of this verse?

                  3021
                  And from His signs is that He created for you mates from
                  yourselves that you may reside with them, and He placed between
                  you affection and mercy. In that are signs for a people who reflect.

                  Salam

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                    Oh please you love yourself so much you have convinced yourself that you're an actual prophet.
                    You follow your desires
                    You keep making these grandiose claims about the mistranslations of Quran yet you do not wish to provide a clear helpful methodology for reaching those conclusions.
                    You do not want to share your sources, lexicons or whatever you are utilizing or perhaps it is because you are not actually utilizing anything but your own whim
                    Or perhaps as you have stated it is something only you are destined for.
                    It is your mission as a prophet to reveal the hidden truth and meaning which no other but you alone can accomplish.
                    Nay, if you were a prophet, then what a prophet. You seek honor and glory
                    Prophets shared their wisdom and knowledge and taught those willing to learn by the permission of Allah

                    How many times have I asked for a clear explanation and methodology and you turned empty handed?

                    You love but yourself Amenuel above all

                    No, I do not love myself, but surely I care for myself, plus I care for my neighbors too. Your claim is your own assessment and opinion, but it is not true. I have never said anything which indicates that. Actually I am very unselfish using my time here to guide stray people who have been deluded by the invention Islam while inside of me I would rather not. Do not think I have any particular joy of staying around here. It is because I pity people around me that I am active. Unfriendly people like yourself make it particularly pestering.

                    I do not seek honor and glory, but I seek to share knowledge and wisdom, and that I do by permission of Rabb. If you were witted you would see my mind is considerably sharp and people have trouble countering my arguments and like yourself resorting to Ad Hominem instead.

                    And I have told you many times on nearly every occasion that you have asked something. I have given you methodology and clear explanations. I have also addressed others who asked questions. I have elaborately delved into many Quranic passages and put forth arguments. I have explained why Allah does not mean your Rabb but is a word meaning 'Who Is Being' and it is a full root of Alif-Lam-Lam with the third person singular pronoun suffix on it, i.e. AL-L-AH "Is Being Who". I have showed that you never find in Quran anyone single person addressing Rabb with Ya Allah and that for a reason. And I have showed that no one in Arabic is named using AL because an AL-marked word cannot be a proper noun (name) since it is adjectival (Is Such + Attribute).

                    And I do not need to state any sources for information that is not acquirable since Arab ancestors fabricated their own language based on the original Quran manuscript once upon a time. Buried deep within lexicons are definitions stemming from the original language.

                    And you put forth false accusations saying I have not declared which lexicons I use. This is false. I have declared which lexicons I have been investigating in this very forum. And lexicons DO support my arguments most of the time, i.e. they contain input possible to confirm whatever arguments I am putting forth.

                    My grammatical talk is possible to verify simply by taking standard Arabic grammar into consideration.

                    And it seems you cannot see I am already revealing the hidden truth. If you cannot see this you must surely be blind.

                    Be well
                    Qarael Amenuel

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                      What do you say of this verse?

                      3021
                      And from His signs is that He created for you mates from
                      yourselves that you may reside with them, and He placed between
                      you affection and mercy. In that are signs for a people who reflect.

                      Salam

                      Affection is a poor translation choice for . Care or even assistance/help is a better choice. It goes together, care and compassion, although it is supposed to say completion about the union together.

                      There is anyhow a difference between affectionate instinctive love and care because of logic and reason. It is simply not meant for a spiritually adept person to be weak in emotions. That does not mean I cannot care for and be responsible for my wife and children. The wife is the closest that I have and in body the opposite of my body and in such functionality her body complements my male one, even though I have already gotten rid of my typical male gender identity and more being like asexual. The marriage union is there to test how well you can handle Oneness. How can you coexist in God if you cannot even be one with your wife? That is basically true for all kinds of relationships though.

                      Be well
                      Qarael Amenuel

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                        Affection is a poor translation choice for . Care or even assistance/help is a better choice. It goes together, care and compassion, although it is supposed to say completion about the union together.

                        There is anyhow a difference between affectionate instinctive love and care because of logic and reason. It is simply not meant for a spiritually adept person to be weak in emotions. That does not mean I cannot care for and be responsible for my wife and children. The wife is the closest that I have and in body the opposite of my body and in such functionality her body complements my male one, even though I have already gotten rid of my typical male gender identity and more being like asexual. The marriage union is there to test how well you can handle Oneness. How can you coexist in God if you cannot even be one with your wife? That is basically true for all kinds of relationships though.

                        Be well
                        Qarael Amenuel

                        And this?

                        2165
                        And from among the people are some who take other than God
                        as equals to Him, they love them as they love God; but those who
                        believe love God more strongly; and when those who were wicked see
                        the retribution, they will see that all power belongs to God, and that
                        God is severe in retribution.

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                          Depends upon the understanding of the root Ha-Ba-Ba. But never mind, do not give the administration an excuse to ban me for thinking.

                          It is alright, you can have your understanding to yourself. I have no use in arguing about what is right or wrong.

                          Be well
                          Qarael Amenuel

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