Spider's house
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I'd really like to know your frequency, maybe different kind of light can help.
Have you noticed in text you quoted "outside this ayet"? I told, if you need further evidencies, to check all ayets with "beyt".
But, if you are so blind, ask and I can tell you how "logic" works in all ayets. I can't explain them to you, but I can tell you where to look. So, if you're not blind you'll see for sure.If your motive was what I told about dictionaries/lexicons then I'm sorry, I can't talk what you like to hear. If you're satisfied that "taqwa" has root waw-qaf-ya, I really can't help.
In case you don't need help to see and you don't wanna share your own opinion about the word "beyt", I won't further answer your comments about this topic.
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Even if Allah told you so, what do you gain from that?
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Even if Allah told you so, what do you gain from that?
For example, I know that in case I wanna divorce my wife I have to keep her close to her family (not her house) during 'iddet. This means that I should let her be with her kids, not just locked in one of rooms.
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And that is not common sense?
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Peace,
Beyt is a house, the word goes back pretty far, just look at the pictogram B especially in ancient forms it's clearly a house. Hence the preposition b- in Hebrew, Arabic means in, with, etc because a house is where you keep things
I hope that if I tell you that Hebrew and Arabic are not lisan of the Qur'an and their rules are men(and jinns)-made will be enough for you at least to think about it.
"a house is where you keep things" is from some lexicon, isn't it?
MoF, no, it's from the Qur'an. I don't see "common sense" as a solid huden.
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I'd really like to know your frequency, maybe different kind of light can help.
Have you noticed in text you quoted "outside this ayet"? I told, if you need further evidencies, to check all ayets with "beyt".
But, if you are so blind, ask and I can tell you how "logic" works in all ayets. I can't explain them to you, but I can tell you where to look. So, if you're not blind you'll see for sure.If your motive was what I told about dictionaries/lexicons then I'm sorry, I can't talk what you like to hear. If you're satisfied that "taqwa" has root waw-qaf-ya, I really can't help.
My motive/frequency/whatever is that you bring a lot of nonsense and present that as truth with nonsense evidence, besides that you call people who do not believe in your nonsense blind ones and affected with non-muslim interpretations.
In case you don't need help to see and you don't wanna share your own opinion about the word "beyt", I won't further answer your comments about this topic.
My opinion about the word beyt is that it does not mean family, check the other ayats to see for yourself. And besides that Allah swt told me so in a Ibn 'Arebi's "vision" but don't make the mistake now to think I had visions, I'm not Saul/Paul nor Ibn 'Arebi. I just understood something which was explained to me.
there is no obligation to answer my questions.
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I hope that if I tell you that Hebrew and Arabic are not lisan of the Qur'an and their rules are men(and jinns)-made will be enough for you at least to think about it.
"a house is where you keep things" is from some lexicon, isn't it?
MoF, no, it's from the Qur'an. I don't see "common sense" as a solid huden.
Common sense is what is obvious without saying, and what is obviously sensible is clearly guidance.
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Peace,
Beyt is a house, the word goes back pretty far, just look at the pictogram B especially in ancient forms it's clearly a house. Hence the preposition b- in Hebrew, Arabic means in, with, etc because a house is where you keep things
Beyet is not necessarily a physical object. It can refer to the foundation of something.
In the case of Abraham, he established the first assembly for the people, this is what the ancient Arabic wishes to say.
Be well
Qarael Amenuel -
The most obvious aspect of spiders are webs. Are they their bait? Wakas link was right, I think in that respect, webs are the spider weapons or instruments to get their food.
The word bait has several meanings, but the primary meaning is that of shelter, abode, place where one stays. By extension might, only might, mean family, but that is not its primary and basic meaning. And when in the Qur'an the family of the prophet is mentionned, they are not called the bait but ahl-ul-bait.
Speaking about spiders, thanks to all the writers who have expounded on this beautiful and hardworking animal. It does reveal that the bait of the spider in fact is wherever it stays, which indeed is about the most voluble kind of beit, that is not a settled specifically appointed place.
But that is logical, spiders are not notorious for their homes, but for their hunting weapons. And those are indeed very remarkable.
Salaam
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peace all,
Evidence, logic and cross-reference within Quran is key.
That is how Quran teaches us to verify http//www.quran434.com/study-method.html
My motive/frequency/whatever is that you bring a lot of nonsense and present that as truth with nonsense evidence...
I agree with your analysis of Aladin's posts on this topic.
Beyet is not necessarily a physical object. It can refer to the foundation of something.
2127 And when Abraham was raising the foundations from/of the foundation...
Fail.
For those interested in a Quran based analysis of bayt, see here
http//mypercept.co.uk/articles/meaning-hajj-Quran.htmlShort summary to make it easier
?The things described as secure in these contexts are sanctuary/haram, town/land/balad, and shelter/bayt.
?Provision of fruits is associated in these contexts with the sanctuary/haram, people of the town/land/balad and people of the shelter/bayt.
?2791 makes clear that it is the town/land/balad that is the part made inviolable/restricted, and "this" clearly implies the town/land is finite/delimited, i.e. has spatial boundaries.
?1437 gives us an example of a shelter/bayt made inviolable.
?The only thing that Abraham asked to be made secure was the town/land/balad, and the only thing God explicitly made secure, in the context of Abraham, was the house/shelter/bayt. Are we told if God answered his prayer in AQ? Yes, if balad=bayt.There does seem to be enough overlap to suggest that in these contexts the bayt/shelter could refer to the balad/town/land. If so, this would make sense.
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Wakas, ru sure that it's not "postmenopausal" as in other ayet, instead of "foundations". Have you checked lexicons recently?
You couldn't find more idiotic way to prove your shirk (taking others as gods, ones you're slave of, besides/skipping Allah swt).
Please tell me this how foundations can be rised from THE HOUSE? I thought it's reverse the house can be rised from ITS foundations! OK, I know that you don't understand lisan of the Qur'an, there're zillion hijabs between your sight and it, but you can understand English and think about it (I'm not good in thinking in English, yet).
Please, don't come and say something which was not said in ayet, your ignorance and kibr can take you to some bad condition. Just think.
And, if you're going to think, please think about what I asked you here does "min dunillahi" include Allah, and if it doesn't, are Beni Israil humans?
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Peace Andrewsarchus
Are you against the silk or the web? Be specific!
There is ample evidence for me to testify to the strength of spider SILK.Yes I agree with you in that total
My point was as a house/home..
(respect for reading the correct meaning in my post handshake
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Ah yes, I forgot I had seen that Beyet is something similar to concept, based on lexicon input.
Foundation is something else. My bad.
Be well
Qarael Amenuel -
Salam!
Most of the spiders live in dens, lairs, or water bubbles, which are not strong enough to protect them from enemies or other environmental factors. (Only a few kinds are social and live in colonies, which might be safer). Therefore, I think the word "" could be translated as "most vulnerable" .
Allah knows the Best!
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Any updates on this topic?
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Any updates on this topic?
The problem with the author of thread and others is merely looking at one word and then equating with Web.
Bayt means nothing else than house. And house does not mean web. Webs are made separately by males and females for catching a prey.
مَثَلُ ٱلَّذِينَ ٱتَّخَذُوا۟ مِن دُونِ ٱللَّهِ أَوْلِيَآءَ
The equivalence of those people who have consciously and purposely adopted some statues perceiving for themselves as protectors, benefactors, godfathers other than Allah the Exalted is
كَمَثَلِ ٱلْعَنكَبُوتِ ٱتَّخَذَتْ بَيْتٙاۖ
Like the specific She-Spider when she has purposely adopted some object/pebble as house (storing place of egg-sack).
وَإِنَّ أَوْهَنَ ٱلْبُيُوتِ لَبَيْتُ ٱلْعَنكَبُوتِۖ
Know the fact, the flimsiest of the houses is certainly the adopted-house of specific She-Spider.
لَوْ كَانُوا۟۟ يَعْلَمُونَ .2941٤١
Had they but known-realized flimsiness of their choice.
Verb is doubly transitive, one is elided purposely since understood.
