Life after death. Article by Dr Kashif Khan
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Peace & blessings of God (SWT) be upon you human brothers and sisters. I was browsing on facebook and i stumbled upon a conversation in a group i was in and i found this link https//www.linkedin.com/pulse/life-after-death-fact-stated-quran-which-has-been-replaced-khan?trk=mp-reader-card
This is a very interesting and very long and very well written topic, you should read it and tell me what do you think about Kashif Khans article.
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brother you need to b careful... i just saw that topic and accidently i checked his topic of pig meat.. in which he assume all the headers of quranists are in favor of eating pork.. which is totally a lie against them..
on top of that he claim its quranists who twist the meanings of khanzeer into rotten meat instead of pig...
https//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=8584.210
in this thread you will see moderators like layth, wakas, savage , nabi all of them are against eating of pork...including me lol
thats a big claim without any proof.. so as per 17 36 and an advice of God when a wicked/liar bring any news , you need to be careful before accepting it...
about incarnation the problem with incarnation is obvious every single atom of universe is unique with in itself... all copies are already here... once a copy destroyed it change the shape... thats the law of universe...
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Salaam Sardar
I read first paragraph and could see how this guy is playing with the words in the Ayat. Here is copy and paste of his first paragraph
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? ?.If you kindly pay your attention to these words of the verse 6122 keeping aside your existing belief, dogma and the translation of our scholars, you will clearly find that these words are saying that ?man was in a lifeless state until We made him alive or We caused him life and his enlistment or flare or splay was developed, broaden or made by us to carry him, to tread him or to march him among the people like them he could not come out of the darkness of death or lifeless state?
Un-quoteWithout going into details I highlighted in red pronoun "HU" which means "him" but he has translated it as them.
I dont need to go any further to find out what he is doing.
Regards
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i dnt know who this guy is... but before commenting on it further i jst read some of his articles... inwhich i feel this guy ned to get some education before claiming things ...
according to him , there is no contact prayer
according to him , jinns are energy particles instead of energy beings..
according to him , quranist consider quran as methphor.. and fit their own views comapared to hadith followers who fit hadith in the interpretation of quran.. (in other words there is not any big difference in quranists and hadith followers)...according to him everyone is ignorant...(early and later scholars of quran aloner and hadith followers) just he is one wise intellignet person...
although God knows best... and this reincarnation claim is something to be ponder...
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brother you need to b careful... i just saw that topic and accidently i checked his topic of pig meat.. in which he assume all the headers of quranists are in favor of eating pork.. which is totally a lie against them..
on top of that he claim its quranists who twist the meanings of khanzeer into rotten meat instead of pig...
https//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=8584.210
in this thread you will see moderators like layth, wakas, savage , nabi all of them are against eating of pork...including me lol
thats a big claim without any proof.. so as per 17 36 and an advice of God when a wicked/liar bring any news , you need to be careful before accepting it...
about incarnation the problem with incarnation is obvious every single atom of universe is unique with in itself... all copies are already here... once a copy destroyed it change the shape... thats the law of universe...
Well i never claimed hes article was perfect but i did say his article is well written but then again humans make mistakes but God (SWT) does not error.
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Salaam Sardar
I read first paragraph and could see how this guy is playing with the words in the Ayat. Here is copy and paste of his first paragraph
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? ?.If you kindly pay your attention to these words of the verse 6122 keeping aside your existing belief, dogma and the translation of our scholars, you will clearly find that these words are saying that ?man was in a lifeless state until We made him alive or We caused him life and his enlistment or flare or splay was developed, broaden or made by us to carry him, to tread him or to march him among the people like them he could not come out of the darkness of death or lifeless state?
Un-quoteWithout going into details I highlighted in red pronoun "HU" which means "him" but he has translated it as them.
I dont need to go any further to find out what he is doing.
Regards
Although "HU" is a singular pronoun but as per "agreement rules" of Arabic grammar it it will be considered as third person plural pronoun that refers to the plural subject being nominative case and because it is in objective form that's why it will be correctly translated as "THEM", So, there is no grammatical mistake in the translation. Please consult Arabic grammar if there is any doubt.
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I have also read his article which is of course very well written and despite my critical view I could not find any grammatical mistake in his translations.
is a plural word which is referred by a nominative singular pronoun "hu" is quite common in Arabic language and quran also uses the same pattern in so many verses in which a third person singular pronoun has been used for plural subjects in accordance with agreement rules of Arabic grammar. Therefore, in this case "them" is correct translation of "". Also the quoted paragraph was not written as a translation but as a fluent interpretation.
I have also seen his article on Khaizir in which he referred someone's quotation, who referred that he copied this from freeminds forum in which khanzir was translated as rotten meat and it was claimed that khanzir was nowhere mentioned haram in the verses of the Quran. Kashif just wrote its clarification from the same verses of the quran and emphases that whoever posted this misleading post in the forum he is not true in saying that khanzir is no where mentioned haram in the quran. Mr Sardar has raised the good question but we have diverted it to some other direction instead of concentrating on his question and replying him to the point.
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Well i do want other people to think about what happens after death. Only Allah (SWT) knows and besides im actually excited for the afterlife but in order to get there wee have to earn by good deeds and fight evil (Shaytan)
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is a plural word which is referred by a nominative singular pronoun "hu" is quite common in Arabic language and quran also uses the same pattern in so many verses in which a third person singular pronoun has been used for plural subjects in accordance with agreement rules of Arabic grammar. Therefore, in this case "them" is correct translation of "". Also the quoted paragraph was not written as a translation but as a fluent interpretation.
Red Do you have verse numbers please?
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Although "HU" is a singular pronoun but as per "agreement rules" of Arabic grammar it it will be considered as third person plural pronoun that refers to the plural subject being nominative case and because it is in objective form that's why it will be correctly translated as "THEM", So, there is no grammatical mistake in the translation. Please consult Arabic grammar if there is any doubt.
Salaamun alaikum,
Forget about Arabic grammar please quote aayaat from alQuraan with same pattern please. I am very much interested to know this.
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actually coming back to the topic , about reincarnation...
i ask some question in some of my previous thread before.. regarding reincarnation...
i have similar questions to you...
is the population of world increasing or decreasing?
is the amount of wrong doing /sins increasing or decreasing? -
Please consult Arabic grammar if there is any doubt.
what do you think which is the first book of arabic on the planet of earth?
from where all grammer of arabic came from?
what do you think is the best example of grammer , literal, poetry and prose in all the ancient books of arabic?
is it not the quran through which grammer also should be verified/filtered ?
you are applying this impression that quran need to correct through grammer (man made thing)
the language of quran is so advance still there are some words that used just once in quran and evrybody drive different meanings from it...let say a word "sidra tilmuntaha" is there is any book, dictionary ,lexicon, grammer book that put highlight on this single word and bring exact meanings of that word...
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There are so many verses in the Quran in which the same linguistic pattern has been used. So me of the examples are here, which you will understand to read them again and again.
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All Praise is due to Allah-Shabbir Ahmed
All the praises and thanks be to Allah-Hilali Khan
ALL PRAISE is due to God alone-Asad( ِ 2/22
Brought forth with them=
Brought forth their fruit =
1- Made earth floor
2- Constructed its canopy the sky
3- Sent water from the sky
Then brought forward fruit from them (result) =
For your nourishment (provision) =
The result or fruit of all three things 1-,-2-3, is mentioned with the singular pronoun of
6/123
of is singular but used as plural of towns, of is singular pronoun but used as a plural pronoun means their. of again a singular pronoun but used as a plural means themAnd this is according to the grammar which we can't forget for sake of saying forget the grammar!
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Red Do you have verse numbers please?
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All Praise is due to Allah-Shabbir Ahmed
All the praises and thanks be to Allah-Hilali Khan
ALL PRAISE is due to God alone-Asad( ِ 2/22
Brought forth with them=
Brought forth their fruit =
1- Made earth floor
2- Constructed its canopy the sky
3- Sent water from the sky
Then brought forward fruit from them (result) =
For your nourishment (provision) =
The result or fruit of all three things 1-,-2-3, is mentioned with the singular pronoun of
6/123
of is singular but used as plural of towns, of is singular pronoun but used as a plural pronoun means their. of again a singular pronoun but used as a plural means them -
There are so many verses in the Quran in which the same linguistic pattern has been used. So me of the examples are here, which you will understand to read them again and again.
thanks for the examples.
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All Praise is due to Allah-Shabbir Ahmed
All the praises and thanks be to Allah-Hilali Khan
ALL PRAISE is due to God alone-AsadIs this also an example?
( ِ 2/22
Brought forth with them=
Brought forth their fruit =
1- Made earth floor
2- Constructed its canopy the sky
3- Sent water from the sky
Then brought forward fruit from them (result) =
For your nourishment (provision) =
The result or fruit of all three things 1-,-2-3, is mentioned with the singular pronoun ofBIHI refers to MAA-AN which is singular.
6/123
of is singular but used as plural of towns, of is singular pronoun but used as a plural pronoun means their. of again a singular pronoun but used as a plural means themThe HAA refers to KARYATIN which is singular.
And this is according to the grammar which we can't forget for sake of saying forget the grammar!
If this what you showed is indeed school-grammar then I advice you to forget about it and try a new fresh start.
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makes plural, which is treated plural throughout this verse. Also check the translation of any scholar of your choice, every one took to mean their criminals. However, this is the different story if you don't want to know the reality !
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Well i do want other people to think about what happens after death. Only Allah (SWT) knows and besides im actually excited for the afterlife but in order to get there wee have to earn by good deeds and fight evil (Shaytan)
I have just seen his new article on the same topic
https//www.linkedin.com/pulse/escape-velocity-applies-life-after-death-mentioned-quran-khan?trk=v-feed&lipi=urn%3Ali%3Apage%3Ad_flagship3_detail_base%3BXi6yazcbTo7nUItFdsjVJA%3D%3D -
makes plural, which is treated plural throughout this verse. Also check the translation of any scholar of your choice, every one took to mean their criminals. However, this is the different story if you don't want to know the reality !
Same as HAA is used in such as etc. Haa is of course a singular feminine objective pronoun but it is used as a plural pronoun in agreement with plural subject. What is called the agreement rules of Arabic grammar, which is advance grammar that you probably can't conceive. If Haa is taken to mean singular feminine pronoun in the verses begin with , without applying agreement rules on Haa then will you understand that the statements of these verses will apply on a single woman only. Whereas, in reality addresses all men and women collectively such as seen in the verse 5/6 and in so many other verses. So, this is a general rule in Arabic language and in the Quran that singular pronoun is taken as a plural as it is applied on plural subject without taking into account whether the subject is men or women or both. If you don't follow this rule you will not translate these verses correctly. So, you need to learn the grammar before enter the further arguments.
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makes plural, which is treated plural throughout this verse.
If would make plural then itself should be at least in plural and this is not the case.
Also check the translation of any scholar of your choice, every one took to mean their criminals.
The HAA is not referring to the criminals, so it is of no use to discuss this or how scholars translate it.
However, this is the different story if you don't want to know the reality !
Reality about what?
If you do not agree with what is written or how it is written then that is totally ok of course, but the reality is that what is written differs from what you are claiming. -
If would make plural then itself should be at least in plural and this is not the case.
The HAA is not referring to the criminals, so it is of no use to discuss this or how scholars translate it.
Reality about what?
If you do not agree with what is written or how it is written then that is totally ok of course, but the reality is that what is written differs from what you are claiming.My dear brother is not required if is plural such as 10/47 in which singular has been used with to make it plural. As I have mentioned earlier that the Quran uses the same pattern of linguistic used in general Arabic but we really don't want to understand these rules.
