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Muhkamat vs Mutashabihat

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    good_logic
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    Peace Girl...
    Your "roses for the lady" reminded me of this joke

    On opening her new store, a woman received a bouquet of roses. She became dismayed on reading the enclosed card, that it expressed "Deepest Sympathy".While puzzling over the message, her telephone rang. It was the florist, apologizing for having sent the wrong card. "Oh, it's alright." said the storekeeper. "I'm a businesswoman and I understand how these things can happen.""But," added the florist, "I accidentally sent your card to a funeral party." "Well, what did it say?" ask the storekeeper. "'Congratulations on your new location'." was the reply.

    These things happen.
    GOD bless you.
    Peace.

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      imrankhawaja
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      peace GL

      that girl change into jinn becoz i feel her vanishing...

      some gifts to her ...

      https//lasttimeisawdotcom.files.wordpress.com/2014/07/the-vanishing-poster.jpg

      another one ...

      http//www.designindaba.com/sites/default/files/node/news/17206/gallery/vanishingpoint03.jpg

      i miss you dearie

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        good_logic
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        Yes Imran, now my post is weird and off-topic since hers has vanished.
        Mutashabihat I suppose.
        GOD bless you.
        Peace

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          bagyane
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          Thanks for your responses

          My thoughts

          Every verse of the Quran is clear, if you don't understand it that doesn't mean it's not clear, if it is not clear to you, maybe it is clear to me or someone else.

          The clue to determine muhkamat verses

          111-3 Introduced the followings commandments as Muhkamat and they are well expounded in the book

          • That you should not serve/worship any except Allah ?Alla ta'abudoo illa Allaha?

          • You should seek forgiveness of your Rabb ?Anistagfiru Rabbakum?

          • You should make a U turn towards Him ?Tuboo ilayhi?

          Thus, all the verses in the book containing any or all of the above mentioned commandments or their explanations can be regarded as muhkamat.

          Therefore, Serving/Worshiping Allah ?Ta?aabudoo Allah?; Seeking forgiveness of Allah ?Astaghfiroo Allah? and Making U turn to Allah ?Tuboo ila Allah? are the foundations or building blocks of the book ?Ummul Kitab?

          • The purpose of our creation is based on serving/worshiping Allah ?Abudoo Allah? is stated in 5156

          • Racing to seeking forgiveness is stated in 5721

          • Absolute U turn to Allah is stated in 668

          Now the next questions is

          How shall we serve or worship Allah?

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            Noon_waalqalami
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            Thanks for your responses

            My thoughts

            Every verse of the Quran is clear, if you don't understand it that doesn't mean it's not clear, if it is not clear to you, maybe it is clear to me or someone else.

            Peace, if clear why ask rhetorical questions?

            Now the next questions is

            How shall we serve or worship Allah?

            Is this another rhetorical question? Should be different topic.

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              imrankhawaja
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              They don't exist,please don't investigate this any further,K?

              it depends on experience ..

              you can start a new thread then i will tell you my own very experience .. about them..

              there are things exist in universe what you/me/we have no knowledge off..

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                good_logic
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                Peace BAMF!

                I get it. (4 times!)

                Why and how did the posts of Girl... disappear is my question now?
                GOD bless you.
                Peace.

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                  good_logic
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                  Girl,I was hoping there will be no miracles, But somehow I was also expecting things to vanish again.

                  GOD bless you too sister.
                  Peace.

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                    imrankhawaja
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                    http//cdn1.theodysseyonline.com/files/2014/11/14/635515967163120478318194316_michaelscott.gif
                    That's all you got out of that.
                    That's it, I'm not gonna resurrect myself for this rotfl

                    before i experience again about your vanishing news... i suggest you to stand infront of mirror and look into your own eyes and ask , questions about some matters from yourself... trust me it will help...

                    you know what methaphorical hell for people of arabs 14 centuries ago was flame of fire .. or a heat ... becoz from heat they always suffer...
                    if arab was in antartica then the hell would be like freezing temprature... (once titanic voyagers experienced it )

                    but infact what i understand hell(azab) is real unisatisfaction regarding something... anything.. that cause you trouble...

                    i dnt know your gender
                    i dnt know who you are
                    i dnt know whats history u have with moderators
                    i dnt know what make you come back here again and again
                    i dnt know what is you actual hell(azab)

                    but in all of it .. i want you to finish your azab and find some peace that will make you feel good...

                    you can find peace in multiple ways...
                    feeding hungry animals (ducks, pigeons)
                    feeding a poor
                    helping someone who is in trouble
                    do something that will benefit the people arounf you
                    and lot of other small things and if you unable to do things then

                    atleast give people a smile full of love . it will cost you nothing trust me but will give you a satisfaction what you cant buy in market...

                    NOTE by making profiles again and again .. and doing stuff what cause others in stress is not a good source for developing your self...

                    doing/preacing /acting something due to a reason is not a act liked by God...

                    i wish i proceed talk with you regarding jinn but i can figure it out , you dnt have much time for discussion as a matter of fact i beleive they will make you vanish again..who are responsible for the previous vanishing ... so instead of wasting my time on some discussion which will not get end i better thought to give you free advise on something what you really need..

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                      imrankhawaja
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                      https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=RdFfRN3MrAk

                      and listen this song and feel the heat sun O0 sun

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                        virginia
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                        Every verse of the Quran is clear, if you don't understand it that doesn't mean it's not clear, if it is not clear to you, maybe it is clear to me or someone else.

                        bravo

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                          good_logic
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                          Peace.
                          Something weird is going on in this thread.
                          Look at my posts, they are out of place and off topic now the posts of the person I was answering have disappeared!

                          MODs ,are you allowed to tell us what happened? Or give us some clue ... Or ...

                          Just asking if that is ok?
                          GOD bless.
                          Peace.

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                            imrankhawaja
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                            peace GL...

                            i think it was my prophesy ... yay yay

                            just kidding... he/she is someone having a history with moderators...

                            so moderators are trying to teach him/her a lesson..

                            i remember there were some students of class who wanted to join class but everytime they try to enter ... the teacher never let them sit in the class ..due to the reason they were spreading lies against the proven facts.. or may b they were insane students who were thinking they are more educated than teachers...

                            God knows best ... i hope i can figure it out,, i start missing her... lets see when she/he take another janam (rebirth)

                            i think you can get reincarnate up to 7 times... she still got some chances ... to correct himself/herself...

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                              good_logic
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                              Peace Imran.
                              Thanks for that.
                              I suppose we can only speculate.
                              Brother, thank you also for inviting me for a cup of tea in Birmingham, England.
                              I hope to make it sometimes in the future,GOD willing. I will let you know in advance if it is possible.

                              At the moment I am busy with the family (We are bringing up one of our grand child- Alex- full time as well as looking after our horse and dog) and have planned my schedule for the next 6 months including a holiday to Africa in May. Add to that jogging to keep fit and my personal study time, I will not be able to fit coming your way sooner.
                              Hope you understand.
                              GOD bless you.
                              Peace.

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                                imrankhawaja
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                                Peace Imran.
                                Thanks for that.
                                I suppose we can only speculate.
                                Brother, thank you also for inviting me for a cup of tea in Birmingham, England.
                                I hope to make it sometimes in the future,GOD willing. I will let you know in advance if it is possible.

                                At the moment I am busy with the family (We are bringing up one of our grand child- Alex- full time as well as looking after our horse and dog) and have planned my schedule for the next 6 months including a holiday to Africa in May. Add to that jogging to keep fit and my personal study time, I will not be able to fit coming your way sooner.
                                Hope you understand.
                                GOD bless you.
                                Peace.

                                peace GL..

                                i can understand .. it dosent matter... we see eachother on forum anyway.. so its not a big deal..

                                aww lucky you .. you have busy schedule... look at me..
                                from last two years... i have nothing to do apart from sleeping, laptop , tv and eating food... (cooking too )

                                very boring life... once it was busy like hell... i remeber 6 years ago... three days for college, seven days job...
                                and some days i was unable to sleep due to busy routine...

                                i wish i never asked that pray rotfl, of long sleeping
                                which God fullfill and i have nothing to do now... i m on long holidays... but its not good , i want the busy life back... thats a human nature he never value things in hand.. when he lose something then he realsie..

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                                  good_logic
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                                  Peace Imran.
                                  Thank you for your post.
                                  I am sure you have some skills very useful to others.
                                  The Lord will provide you a busier schedule. Ask and you will be given.
                                  GOD bless you.
                                  Peace.

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                                    good_logic
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                                    Welcome back Jackie.
                                    Now, do not let me down! Otherwise this post will look the weirdest of them all.
                                    Oh ,my motherland is England,the land of her majesty. Only kidding it is Mother Earth.

                                    GOD bless you.
                                    Peace.

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                                      imrankhawaja
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                                      peace GL who is this black jackie... now...

                                      awwwww i misssed it.. was there any specific message to me... i m missing my love...(dearie)

                                      just want to expose on her i secretly crush on her.... if she is him , then this time i will make myself in to homo lol .... rotfl just kidding...

                                      this time student entry is rejected from school gate instead of class door.. aww poor baby...

                                      once i remember , i had a rebel friend and due to him teachers sometimes punish me too , moderators are our teachers now a days...

                                      i hope they will not react as my teachers did... @ moderators i dnt have a secret crush on anyone... so be careful i love/respect you all openly ... speacially SC laugh

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                                        good_logic
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                                        Came and gone brother. I cannot remember her/his/its ( In case it is a Jinn)... message to you. There were some good weird pictures as usual!
                                        We are still chasing shadows?
                                        GOD bless you.
                                        Peace

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                                          imrankhawaja
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                                          i think its a cold war going on ... lets see who gona win this war... moderators have power , and my dearie jinny have lot of time and courage to get killed again and again... like in video games...

                                          see history repeats itself...

                                          what she was doing to other people now me and you doing to her.... hahahaha , oh my goshhhhhhh

                                          i still remeber her first janam in which she enter and try to boast the topics in which beleivers get fight with eachother... lgbt topic... so thats why i left that topic .. now i m in love with her... how strange...

                                          people say truth about love ,, its blind and uncontrolleable ... you cant do love ,,love just happen... spontaneously

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