What happens to transsexuals?

imrankhawaja

Allah says He created two pairs the male and the female and friggin people want to contest every single darn thing man!

Did God create pedophiles as pedophiles? Imran your logic does not make sense.

Step up if you are so bold

peace Hp_tech

RED
Allah say he created everything in pair
didnt he say he created everything in only two sexes

you need to understand this book is a religious book when it adress the people it will adress them in a manner acceptable
like oh ladies and gentleman
not the way oh ladies genetleman and transgenders

coming back to medical point of view Yes third kind exist not only in humans but also in plants go research urself please

GREEN
there is a difference between a criminal and a person born with black face,uglyface,mix sex harmones,poor family background,orphan etc

pedophile is a criminal,same like thief is a criminal

well before couple of weeks i was also aggressive about that thing i can truly understand ur emotions
but i revised my thinking due to a reason
i encounter some people and it make me feel sad about all that time what i have been thinking about them
due to misunderstanding of LUT nation

that nation raped the boys kill the innocents rob the caravans etc

but the poor perosn who born with disabilty have nothing to do with the nation LUT
if you look inside that person he/she is already feel himself out of community just that he born with that fault. people hate him just becoz he is different than normal male female

is it fair? u tell now i m not that stone hearted to hate somebody for no reason on other hand i start loving these creatures and i m regretful of my previous hateful thinking what i revised

they deserve love and even in my country the law is changed and now these type of sex can have property and national Id

a real muslim(peacemaker) is a symbol of love and peace along with sympathy

BOLD no need to step up or bold i cant deny what i see with my own eyes
i cant reject what i feel from inside
i cant blame what is the planning of God to make such creation

so step up for makin peace in community instead of hating them which will practically not give us anything apart from fighting and trouble

Note i m talking about gender (not about the same sex relationship like Gay/lesbian)
God bless you

huruf

I really wonder how we are so fantastically able to make plans for people in next life, never mind whether transgender, transpecies, trans...

I really worry about myself, I do not know tht I would also have ideas about what is going to happen to these or those.
It sounds to me fantastic.

Salaam

A_Submitter

I was wondering for those who advocate transsexualism...
God never makes an error. Everything He creates is perfect and there are no mistakes. Everyone agrees?

But then transsexuals say that they are meant to be opposite gender. So they are basically mocking God, and we have believers who advocate for transsexuals. Hmmm

How about the advocates of homosexuality. The Quran has already forbidden homosexual acts, but there are some believers who advocate it anyway. God created two genders. Each gender is for the other. Yet the homosexuals mock God by saying they're meant to be the opposite sex or just be with same sex. Biologically speaking, it makes no sense.
I won't go into lengths, but anyone who advocates LGBT is basically mocking God. Think about it.

The intention of the topic wasn't to look for answers, just fun, the funny picture when transgenders are resurrected and they aren't the gender they wanted to be in this worldly life rotfl rotfl

imrankhawaja

Everything He creates is perfect and there are no mistakes. Everyone agrees?

i disagree

only God is perfect .. rest of the things are not perfect..
the imperfection of these things can b tested..

A_Submitter

i disagree

only God is perfect .. rest of the things are not perfect..
the imperfection of these things can b tested..

Everything He creates is as He wishes. Maybe we see certain things as imperfections, but He perfects everything, He makes no mistakes, no error. This is what I meant.
When He made each person a female or male, it was without mistake and no error. When transsexuals say they got the wrong gender, they are mocking God. Same with homosexuals, they mock Him too as God created females and males for each other and not female-female or male-male.

They are indirectly saying that God made mistakes and errors!!!

Cerberus

They are indirectly saying that God made mistakes and errors!!!

While it sounds revolting to you, that's the least of their problems.

imrankhawaja

When He made each person a female or male, it was without mistake and no error. When transsexuals say they got the wrong gender, they are mocking God.

http//www.newhealthadvisor.com/Hermaphrodite-Human-Pictures.html
https//www.britannica.com/science/hermaphroditism

who are these people?

i myself witness lot of these people who have breast like females and genitile organs like male

why they exist ? what is the solution for them?

A_Submitter

http//www.newhealthadvisor.com/Hermaphrodite-Human-Pictures.html
https//www.britannica.com/science/hermaphroditism

who are these people?

i myself witness lot of these people who have breast like females and genitile organs like male

why they exist ? what is the solution for them?

Breasts don't define a female. There are males with testicle cancer, and they develop breasts. Others without cancer can develop breasts. It's called gynecomastia.

The solution is to look to the reproductive organ as they define whether one is a male or female. If an intersex has ovaries, then she is a female. If an intersex has sperm, then he's a male.
I don't know about other deformities...

imrankhawaja

It's called gynecomastia.

no its called intersex

https//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intersex

study for more in depth and their kinds are mention there too..

HP_TECH

While it sounds revolting to you, that's the least of their problems.

No Cerb, that is the worst of their problems, Hell is lying in wait for the disbelievers.
Submitter and the sincere servants with I denounce their ACTIONS and dissociate ourselves from them and what they do.

There is no middle ground, what happened to Lut's wife?

A_Submitter

no its called intersex

https//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intersex

study for more in depth and their kinds are mention there too..

I was giving example that breasts can develop in men later in life to say that breasts doesn't define what a female is, but the reproductive organ does. Same for men, their gender won't be redefined if they have gynecomastia.
When males develop breasts, it's called gynecomastia.

A_Submitter

While it sounds revolting to you, that's the least of their problems.

I don't care about them, they are rejecters anyway.
It's the more than 50% of forum members who support and advocate for LGBT.

Cerberus

I agree there are only two genders, even science agrees on that. People who call themselves 'transsexuals' are usually people who have a sex chromosome abnormality, aka a sexual disorder. And so, they should be viewed as people with a condition. Usually a direct consequence from this condition is being unable to procreate.

There is nothing that proves that people with sex chromosome abnormalities tend to be homosexuals because of that. So atleast don't confuse both of them.

As for homosexuality, and specifically having or experiencing sexual urges toward same-sex, that is same as having sexual urges towards the opposite sex, both are to be surpassed. Both are harmful, and so it depends on the person whether he/she wants to take that sacrifice.

As for having sexual intercourses with same-sex, it is a pointless thing to do, void of any sense, because there is a sense in using our sexual organs, and that is to procreate, 'a sacrifice for the next generation'. So, sexual intercourses between same-sex are simply non-sense, an "immorality". But so is sodomy, and so is any misuse of sexual organs, even by heterosexuals.

The only issue is that sexuality is wrongly given a lot of weight in people's life, be it someone who desires the opposite sex (hetero) or someone who desires the same-sex (homo).

As for LGBTQ the movement, there is no need to pay any attention to it because it's just Tumblr users leaving their rooms.

HP_TECH

I agree there are only two genders, even science agrees on that. People who call themselves 'transsexuals' are usually people who have a sex chromosome abnormality, aka a sexual disorder. And so, they should be viewed as people with a condition. Usually a direct consequence from this condition is being unable to procreate.

There is nothing that proves that people with sex chromosome abnormalities tend to be homosexuals because of that. So atleast don't confuse both of them.

As for homosexuality, and specifically having or experiencing sexual urges toward same-sex, that is same as having sexual urges towards the opposite sex, both are to be surpassed. Both are harmful, and so it depends on the person whether he/she wants to take that sacrifice.

As for having sexual intercourses with same-sex, it is a pointless thing to do, void of any sense, because there is a sense in using our sexual organs, and that is to procreate, 'a sacrifice for the next generation'. So, sexual intercourses between same-sex are simply non-sense, an "immorality". But so is sodomy, and so is any misuse of sexual organs, even by heterosexuals.

The only issue is that sexuality is wrongly given a lot of weight in people's life, be it someone who desires the opposite sex (hetero) or someone who desires the same-sex (homo).

As for LGBTQ the movement, there is no need to pay any attention to it because it's just Tumblr users leaving their rooms.

Cerb that last sentence made my night rotfl

Mikebloke

I think it really boils down to what you perceive heaven to be, and how close it is implemented to the scale and quality of life we have in this existence. Most religions tend to lean towards the afterlife being the "superior" life, one that either lasts significantly longer or permanent. Many interpretations of a heaven is the freedom to do what one chooses with little boundaries, with some going as far as saying you would be unable to break a soul of another person, and hence would never be able to commit acts such as 'murder'. If the heaven a soul ends up in has features of a mouldable form by the soul, then presumably a transgender person who choose what everyone else would do whatever is comfortable.

This presumably means that people who weren't transgender in this life, may well have the option of doing so in the next without discrimination.

I wondered whether to sift into the other conversations in this topic, but decided to leave it at that.

HP_TECH

I thinkit really boils down to what you perceive heaven to be, and how close it is implemented to the scale and quality of life we have in this existence. Most religions tend to lean towards the afterlife being the "superior" life, one that either lasts significantly longer or permanent. Many interpretations of a heaven is the freedom to do what one chooses with little boundaries, with some going as far as saying you would be unable to break a soul of another person, and hence would never be able to commit acts such as 'murder'. If the heaven a soul ends up in has features of a mouldable form by the soul, then presumably a transgender person who choose what everyone else would do whatever is comfortable.

This presumably means that people who weren't transgender in this life, may well have the option of doing so in the next without discrimination.

I wondered whether to sift into the other conversations in this topic, but decided to leave it at that.

Emphasis on "I think". You are just guessing. You are giving mention to perspectives that are unquranic. As long as you move in such direction you are merely conjecturing.
Follow what Allah has revealed not your assumptions.

Give proof for what you speak of or do you say about Allah that which you do not know?

imrankhawaja

sometimes i see people with disability are born..

like blind, deaf, dumb , abnormal mind..

some of them use brain to think half of the glass is empty some of them think no half glass is full..

but in case of abnormal kids.. like deaf blind, dumb how should they b treated?
why 99% people born as normal and only 1% is born as disabilites?
is the creation of God is not perfect?
is God is not just so that he could have make all 100 % as normal...

same goes with the kind i am talking about.. you guys from start did not really understand whats am on about?
did i say anything about (gay lesbian)? if no then see what i telling..

i m telling a gender who have a disability and they are not hidden now..

different cultures have different names for them

"hejra" in urdu
"kinner" in hindi
"khusra" in punjabi

these are people who are considered separate from whole society and they treated like shit, they are not allowed to go on school becoz if they go to boys place they will get bullied if they go to girls place they will not allowed to do things ?

they are not allowed to do jobs
they are not allowed to ask a share in property.

the only thing left for them is to join lot of other like them who are engagged in dancing and singing (what a shame and zulum on them) how unfair..

if you guys think its a disability, i have no issue , my issue is,
is it ok to throw out the disable from your house and society?

as i stated earlier God never say he create only two sex..

thats what we see in normal conditions that animals, humans and plants have male and female sexes with normal functions

but we also see lot of abnormalities in creation of God that occurs from time to time..

like twins
born as deaf, dumb
born as blind
born as male with female harmones(intersex)
born as female with male harmones(intersex)
born with two heads

even in plants they are some unisex species..
and what about "Earthworm" having both male and female reproductive organs?

if they exist God knows about them and God never wanted us to hate somebody just becoz he/she is disable?

God bless you all

NOTE sometimes God give message in different shapes , i hope nobody from you want their kid born as the disability of mix gender.. at that time i dnt feel you have anything to do against them or God? but one thing you will say definately ..
they exist and they should treated same as other human beings..

imrankhawaja

I was giving example that breasts can develop in men later in life to say that breasts doesn't define what a female is, but the reproductive organ does. Same for men, their gender won't be redefined if they have gynecomastia.
When males develop breasts, it's called gynecomastia.

whatever it called , it doesnt matter .. (you can also say half man half women) or upper part is the part like women lower part is a part like man..

brother if you are a medical student then you better know what i m on about..

why the breast did not comes up in all of the males ?
why this change only comes to the ones who are different in thinking as well physical change compared to normal ?
what make them think they are not male/females ? (a disability of mind or body)

RED a poor example becoz obviously breast define a women..
same like in animals cow/goat has udder from which you get milk... lol classified as chest/breat

breast is the most attractive thing in women body as well as very important organ
becoz from same breast you get milk for baby..

Mikebloke

Emphasis on "I think". You are just guessing. You are giving mention to perspectives that are unquranic. As long as you move in such direction you are merely conjecturing.
Follow what Allah has revealed not your assumptions.

Give proof for what you speak of or do you say about Allah that which you do not know?

Yes, I'm guessing because I'm not dead yet.

HP_TECH

Yes, I'm guessing because I'm not dead yet.

There is no evidence in Quran for almost everything you said. You have no citations.
I mean you were straight up talking out of your rear man.

One does not have to be dead to have knowledge of The Book and provide evidence from it for their claims.

Peace