Is Deen religion or not?
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thanx my lovely brother jaffar for your kind and intelligent wording. it really gives me a satisfaction of heart and sometimes i just become so much senstive and say these things so that somebody will give me thoughts of different perspectives
since then i start understanding ur way of thinking its really help me a lot in lot of ways i hope one day i will talk with you face to face if God wills
God bless you
God bless humanityI want to meet Jaf face to face as well one day.
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I want to meet Jaf face to face as well one day.
if God wills we will be able to see eachother one day.. i dnt even know where jaffar lives i feel he lives in india or pakistan
but brother jaffar if u have any plan to visit uk let us know, me and saj will manage to see you in person... group
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Travel more.... not all societies in this planet have the same cultural construct as your society... expose yourselves to different perspectives, learn from them...
Normal human behavior... and no need to judge them.. accept them as they are...Good for him.. I don't see anything wrong here..
See it from different perspective... that person help the car salesman, workers in car factory, the workers who supplies parts for the car, the catering who provide lunch to the workers, the farmers who supply food to the catering to earn his/her living.
And by assuming that person pay taxes for all of his cars.. the fund from the taxes will go to other people as well..Accept it as it is.. you only torturing yourselves.. some human does behave as such... everything has their own role to play...
Not true..
You will be surprised on how much wisdom i've learned from the people who are being labeled by others as "poor", "impoverished", "primitive", "ignorant" and 'dumb'.
Infact the majority of my 'questions' are answered by them...
Good soul are just good souls.. humble souls are just humble souls, regardless of the labels..There will not be any failure if you set your expectation low.. or even NONE...
Whatever has happened just accept it.. as it all happened in accordance to the ultimate plan..."Can you deal with the most vital matters by letting events take their course?
Can you step back from you own mind and thus understand all things?
Giving birth and nourishing, having without possessing, acting with no expectations, leading and not trying to control this is the supreme virtue."
-- Lao TseBriliant! Just what I needed to reflect on, thanks!
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Salam/Peace everyone! group group
There is a question that appeared in my mind. What are the arguments for & against of the arabic word deen meaning religion or system?I hope i won't cause a quarrel here.
System, a mode or manner of procedure.
The argument is that this is the way it linguistically suits the content
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Just letting you know that sectarian scholars don't dispute the fact that deen means way of life/system. So is true about Judaism, Hinduism, etc. They use the word "religion" simply because it is what the trend is. Examples
Sectarian Islam
"Besides, it is incorrect to call Islam a religion only. It is a Deen
which means a complete code of life. Religion deals with private affairs
of life whereas Deen covers all aspects of life, individual as well as
collective. In other words Deen is all embracing term which includes
religio-socio-politico-economic system. It touches upon the material as
well as spiritual dimensions of human existence and insists that all our
thoughts and deeds should be performed with God consciousness."http//www.qurtuba.edu.pk/thedialogue/The%20Dialogue/4_1/05_zamir.pdfHinduism
"It is only recently and due to external influences that this geographical and cultural identity has attempted to transform itself into a religious identity called Hinduism. Hindu was never an ?ism?, and the attempt to organize it as a religion is still not successful because the Hindu way of life which is referred to as Sanatana Dharma or universal law is all-inclusive in nature and does not exclude anything. The Hindu way of life is not an organized belief system but a science of salvation.https//isha.sadhguru.org/us/en/wisdom/article/hinduism-not-religionJudaism
"Judaism is a comprehensive way of life, filled with rules and practices that affect every aspect of life what you do when you wake up in the morning, what you can and cannot eat, what you can and cannot wear, how to groom yourself, how to conduct business, who you can marry, how to observe the holidays and Shabbat, and perhaps most important, how to treat G-d, other people, and animals. This set of rules and practices is known as halakhah".http//www.jewfaq.org/halakhah.htmChristianity
The Bible is the basic manifestation of the will of God, of His mind, and it describes the ?religion? of God simply as ?the Way.?
For this reason, we have named the study area concerned with the will of God ?The Way of God.? This is not just an interesting label but a biblically based definition.
The Bible teaches that true religion is a way of life.
When Moses recapitulated the commandments and instructions of God with the people of Israel before his death, he used an interesting expression. http//www.vision.org/visionmedia/religion-and-bible/way-of-life/37421.aspx
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Salam/Peace everyone! group group
There is a question that appeared in my mind. What are the arguments for & against of the arabic word deen meaning religion or system?I hope i won't cause a quarrel here.
Peace The Sardar, I have no problem with the translation from Arabic (deen)
to English (religion). There are other words to replace the word religion in
the English language that you may find more suitable.53 This day I have perfected for you your religion(way of life/path/system/practices/methods)
and completed My favor upon you and have approved for you Islam (submission) as your religion
(way of life/path/system/practices/methods).peace
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Peace The Sardar, I have no problem with the translation from Arabic (deen)
to English (religion). There are other words to replace the word religion in
the English language that you may find more suitable.53 This day I have perfected for you your religion(way of life/path/system/practices/methods)
and completed My favor upon you and have approved for you Islam (submission) as your religion
(way of life/path/system/practices/methods).peace
I wonder though, what is the root definition of Deen?
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I wonder though, what is the root definition of Deen?
Peace The Sardar this may be beneficial;
Dal-Ya-Nun = obedience/submissiveness, servility, religion, high/elevated/noble/glorious rank/condition/state, took/receive a loan or borrowed upon credit, become indebted, in debt, under the obligation of a debt, contract a debt, repay/reimburse a loan, rule/govern/manage it, possess/own it, become habituated/accustomed to something, confirmation, death (because it is a debt everyone must pay), a particular law/statute, system, custom/habit/business, a way/course/manner of conduct/acting, repayment/compensation.
Daynun (n.) Debt; lending.
Tadaayantum (prf. 2nd. p. m. plu. VI.) You transact.
La Yadiinuuna (imp. 3rd. p. m. plu.) They do not subscribe, do not observe (religious laws).
Diin Requital; judgement; faith; law; obedience.
Madyiinuun/ Madyiiniin Requitted.dana vb. (I)
impf. act. 929
pcple. pass. 3753, 5686dayn n.m. 2282, 411, 412, 412, 412
din n.m. 14, 2132, 2193, 2217, 2217, 2256, 319, 324, 373, 383, 385, 446, 4125, 4146, 4171, 53, 53, 53, 554, 557, 577, 670, 6137, 6159, 6161, 729, 751, 839, 849, 872, 911, 912, 929, 933, 933, 936, 9122, 1022, 10104, 10105, 1240, 1276, 1535, 1652, 2278, 242, 2425, 2455, 2682, 2965, 3030, 3030, 3032, 3043, 3132, 335, 3720, 3878, 392, 393, 3911, 3914, 4014, 4026, 4065, 4213, 4213, 4221, 4828, 4828, 4916, 516, 5112, 5656, 608, 609, 619, 619, 7026, 7446, 829, 8215, 8217, 8218, 8311, 957, 985, 985, 1071, 1096, 1096, 1102,
tadayana vb. (VI) perf. act. 2282
Lane's Lexicon, Volume 3, pages 108, 109, 110, 111, 112 ## http//ejtaal.net/aa/#q=dyn
