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What about Agnostic?

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    armom
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    Salaam

    Please reflect on the following ayat. Whoever is not taking guidance from Allah and following his own desires/wishes is not guided. It covers deniers of God or agnostics and every one who is confused about God and guidance.

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    Say, ?God?s Guidance is the only true guidance.? And if you follow their wishes and errant views after all the knowledge that has come to you, then you will find no ally or helper from God.

    Salaam,
    What if the "knowledge" doesn't make sense to them. But they believe in God but confused about religions?

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      Salaam,
      What if the "knowledge" doesn't make sense to them. But they believe in God but confused about religions?

      Salaam

      If by religion you mean man made hadith based organized cult then yes that creates confusion. Otherwise believing in a God and doing saleh acts is enough for them as per following ayat.

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      But unto those who have attained to faith and do good works give the glad tiding that theirs shall be gardens through which running waters flow. Whenever they are granted fruits there from as their appointed sustenance, they will say, "It is this that in days of yore was granted to us as our sustenance!"-for they shall be given something that will recall that .17 And there shall they have spouses pure, and there shall they abide.

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        MaryK
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        Salaam,
        Thanks for explanation..

        Yes, I understand what you said.

        But, there are agnostics who doesn't deny God. Infact there is difference between atheist and agnostics.

        The agnostics are simply saying, there is a God but they don't know who is it. They are confused and finding no answer for their questions. So they still don't deny the existence of God but are confused about who is God and what to follow.

        What do you say on such situation?

        Agnostics are those who do not know whether or not God exists.

        What you are talking about are deists. Deists are those who believe in God, but who do not accept religion or either those who dont know which religion is right.

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          huruf
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          Is it the same to say that one believes or not believes something as believing or not believing something?

          As far as I have been able to verify, it is not the same.

          To what extent do we ourselves, each one of us, each person, blieves or does nto believe?

          Who is the judge of that?

          Do we inhabit an "agnostic's" heart, or have we created it so that we are allknowing?

          Salaam

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            armom
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            Agnostics are those who do not know whether or not God exists.

            What you are talking about are deists. Deists are those who believe in God, but who do not accept religion or either those who dont know which religion is right.

            Yes, you're right... Thanks for correcting

            Salaam

            If by religion you mean man made hadith based organized cult then yes that creates confusion. Otherwise believing in a God and doing saleh acts is enough for them as per following ayat.

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            But unto those who have attained to faith and do good works give the glad tiding that theirs shall be gardens through which running waters flow. Whenever they are granted fruits there from as their appointed sustenance, they will say, "It is this that in days of yore was granted to us as our sustenance!"-for they shall be given something that will recall that .17 And there shall they have spouses pure, and there shall they abide.

            Salaam,
            No. It's not about hadith.

            There are some people who feels confusion on religion. Like, they don't know which religion or scripture is correct. So they just relax and believe that there is a creator but don't know what to follow. confused

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              Jafar
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              There are some people who feels confusion on religion. Like, they don't know which religion or scripture is correct. So they just relax and believe that there is a creator but don't know what to follow. confused

              Nearly everyone is confused on religions..
              All religion and scripture contains incorrectness and absurdity..
              They decided to follow their own conscience and common sense..

              With exception of religious leaders, they are the one who are using religion as a tool to control other people in order to gain power, wealth and influence.
              That's how it always been and always will be.. on religion...

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                huruf
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                Sorry wrog thread.

                Salaam

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                  There are some people who feels confusion on religion. Like, they don't know which religion or scripture is correct. So they just relax and believe that there is a creator but don't know what to follow. confused

                  They are confused about religion because religions are man made. They will always be confused as long as they are following a religion.

                  A scripture should itself be a proof for its correctness.

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