Allah is ENERGY
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Mahdi ...
what i asked and what you replied has no value... tbh....
Now you have gone away from ALLAH = ENERGY to ILAH = ENERGY...
Now you want to say all words of ILAH in quran = Energy...
Please be specific... your website which you furnished clearly say and you say that LA ILAHA ILLA ALLAH means = NO GOD BUT ENERGY.... clearly you have taken the word ILAHA = GOD/DEITY.. can't help if you twist in between..
And further you answer regarding Moses and Fire is just gone no where...
God guide you...
573 " They have certainly disbelieved who say "Energy is the Third of Three" and there is no energy except one energy...."
2255 " Energy, no energy but Him"....
Convince us pls... i am with you till you convince me... if you are okay with that... bring all ILAH verses in quran and explain why you take energy or gods..
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When he came to the Fire he was called "O Moses. I (FIRE) am your Lord!" (2013)
Like the fire of Moses which he saw as what he needed. It was Allah but he did not perceive it.
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If you have forgotten what you have wrote just read your above quote....
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Mahdi ...
what i asked and what you replied has no value... tbh....what did you ask for?
Then give everyone a detailed explanation of the verse 1143 which say ILAH Deity/god of Men... even explain the 1141 as well...If allah is energy what is ilah 1143 indicates?
your objection has no value...
so which part from this argument that you don't agree?
1141 and 1142 defines the word ILAH/GOD in verse 1143
• 1141 Say, "I seek refuge in (the) Lord (of) mankind,
• 1142 (The) King (of) mankind,
• 1143 (The) God (of) mankind
(The) Lord (of) mankind = (The) God (of) mankind
Therefore
Allah (A) = God (B)
God (B) = Lord (C)Accordingly, what is the definition for Lord (C)?
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Good.
So what is the opposite of "light"? And could you give your understanding of .
peace
Insanity / Stupidity ...
"There is no darkness but ignorance" ~William Shakespeare
Allah is the Protector of those who have iman/truth=nature. He brings them out of the darkness/ignorance/insanity into the light/energy/mathematical pattern/logic/wisdom. But those who are kafir have false gods/LordLaw as protectors. They take them from the light/energy/mathematical pattern/logic/wisdom into the darkness/ignorance/insanity. Those are the Companions of the Fire remaining in it timelessly, for ever. (2257)
Definition of stupid Knowing the truth ( = nature / pure / unmixed), seeing the truth (natural), but still believing the lies (unnatural, mixed, impure, fallacies).
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If you have forgotten what you have wrote just read your above quote....
so what's wrong with this answer?
ie. the process of reasoning...
It is the process of "REASONING"
Musa said "Allah is the LordLaw of the East and the West and EVERYTHING IN BETWEEN ( = ENERGY). You would understand Allah if you USE REASON. (262
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573 " They have certainly disbelieved who say "Energy is the Third of Three" and there is no energy except one energy...."
2255 " Energy, no energy but Him"....Convince us pls... i am with you till you convince me...
of course, everything is ENERGY..
please study PHYSICS...
and I don't have to convince anyone. !
because #scientifically_illiterate
Say He, ENERGY, is One (1). (1121)
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Allah/ENERGY = 1
Atoms = 0"This is PHYSICS"
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Okay if you don?t won?t to argue and at least if not convince everyone at least give the possibilities for others to think that there could be possibilities that GOD=ENERGY? ?Otherwise, Why you brought this topic just to make a show piece ?. Or to enlighten the people to the possible meaning of GOD=Energy? if the option no. 02 then respond to questions of the members politely and with patience and let the members who argue and who silently read know you point has meaning.. if not I don?t see any meaning of your presentation here.. When differences of opinion on one word of quran then argument should be based on that word and Einstein or nonsense of physics..
Man? Are you out of your mind right now? I am not talking about 2628 ? I am talking about your very first thread in this topic?Allah is ENERGY
? on December 15, 2018, 021337 PM ?
When he came to the Fire he was called "O Moses. I (FIRE) am your Lord!" (2013)Like the fire of Moses which he saw as what he needed. It was Allah but he did not perceive it.
Now As per You Mosa already seen the Fire which is Allah.. But Mosa didn?t perceive it? But Allah made His presence on this Earth which is FIRE? YES or NO? I unfortunately have to ask coz you are twisting?
Now Mosa (as per you conviction a fool) again asking God to make His presence? 7143 and God says
?And when Moses arrived at Our appointed time and his Lord spoke to him, he said, "My Lord, show me that I may look at You." said, "You will not see Me, but look at the mountain; if it should remain in place, then you will see Me." But when his Lord appeared to the mountain, He rendered it level, and Moses fell unconscious. And when he awoke, he said, "Exalted are You! I have repented to You, and I am the first of the believers."
Now question is GOD and His presence on this earth is beyond probability but you making the Mosa a fool saying that he didn?t perceive that Fire was GOD=Energy..
Why Mosa didn?t feel unconscious when he saw the FIRE?? And why Mosa was unconscious when actually God appeared to the mountain?? That?s what it is called reasoning and not what you say?.i have to say only this to you 2563
4251 And it is not for any human being that Allah should speak to him except by revelation or from behind a partition or that He sends a messenger to reveal, by His permission, what He wills. Indeed, He is Most High and Wise.
Yes above verse? funny thing Mosa saw God and which is FIRE..ha ha ha..but God deny vehemently your claim?If one cannot even talk with God without being put a partition then forget about seeing.. nonsense..
Peace.. Unless you go side by side with the question of mine when you answer I will continue with you otherwise best of luck with anyone who has time waste time here with you? Questioning something and answering a totally contrary..
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at least give the possibilities for others to think that there could be possibilities that GOD=ENERGY
I already did BUT you said
nonsense of physics..
you said "NONSENSE of physics = sunnatullah = Way of Allah in Nature = Allah"
"Nonsense of THE SUNNATULLAH / ALLAH"
Thus
Do you desire to guide people Allah/PHYSICS has misguided? (48
nope... you can't fix stupid, and stupid can't fix themselves. no amount of proofs and evidences can fix stupidity / insanity...
Therefore
Pay no attention to foolish people. (7199)
and don't worry about others, they understand Physics.
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Allah is ENERGY
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When he came to the Fire he was called "O Moses. I (FIRE) am your Lord!" (2013)Like the fire of Moses which he saw as what he needed. It was Allah but he did not perceive it.
Now As per You Mosa already seen the Fire which is Allah.. But Mosa didn�t perceive it� But Allah made His presence on this Earth which is FIRE� YES or NO� I unfortunately have to ask coz you are twisting�
What's wrong with this argument?
BEFORE MUSA REASON ABOUT ALLAH
Allah is ENERGY
When he came to the Fire he was called "O Moses. I (FIRE) am your Lord!" (2013)
Like the fire of Moses which he saw as what he needed. It was Allah but he did not perceive it.
AFTER MUSA REASON ABOUT ALLAH
Musa said "ALLAH IS the LordLaw of the East and the West and EVERYTHING IN BETWEEN ( = ENERGY + FIRE + MOUNTAIN + EVERYTHING). You would understand Allah IF you USE REASON. (262
What's wrong with your LOGIC? (6836)
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Please prove your reality...
My argument
• there is NO REALITY (GOD)
• But/Only ENERGY (ALLAH).
AND I will prove my Allah
here, please prove your own existence...
let's start with this kirlian photograph of an apple.
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ISSUE Does this apple exist; or
There is NO APPLE (GOD),
ONLY LIGHT (ENERGY / ALLAH)?A. The apple exist
B. No, there is NO APPLE (GOD). Everything is THE LIGHT
A or B?
https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=meoGgUkLx9M
Nothing exists except atoms and empty space, everything else IS OPINION. ~ Democritus
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delusion. n. an idiosyncratic belief or impression maintained despite being contradicted by reality or rational argument, typically as a symptom of mental disorder.
insanity. n. mental illness of such a severe nature that a person cannot distinguish fantasy (unnature) from reality (nature).
Which of you has been afflicted by insanity? (686)
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Insanity / Stupidity ...
"There is no darkness but ignorance" ~William Shakespeare
Allah is the Protector of those who have iman/truth=nature. He brings them out of the darkness/ignorance/insanity into the light/energy/mathematical pattern/logic/wisdom. But those who are kafir have false gods/LordLaw as protectors. They take them from the light/energy/mathematical pattern/logic/wisdom into the darkness/ignorance/insanity. Those are the Companions of the Fire remaining in it timelessly, for ever. (2257)
Definition of stupid Knowing the truth ( = nature / pure / unmixed), seeing the truth (natural), but still believing the lies (unnatural, mixed, impure, fallacies).
Thanks for taking time to reply Mahdi Ibrahim, I like your understanding of .
However, light/energy/mathematical pattern/logic/wisdom.
Does not necessarily translate into submission in my view. Whereas the metaphor
of light does. Secondly, where did you get your definition of stupid? nope -
Thanks for taking time to reply Mahdi Ibrahim, I like your understanding of .
However, light/energy/mathematical pattern/logic/wisdom.
Does not necessarily translate into submission in my view. Whereas the metaphor
of light does. Secondly, where did you get your definition of stupid? nopeNature or Sunnatullah (energy/mathematical pattern/logic/wisdom) is always LOGICAL (CAUSE & EFFECT) in everything it does
and Islam is making peace with Nature/LordLaw of Nature
Thus you must submit / surrender to NATURE / LordLaw of Cause & Effect
and even your Allah (imaginary GOD/ Parental God) cannot disobey NATURE.
It is a promise binding on Us / ALLAH. That is what We will do. (2110
You will never encounter an alternative for sunnatullah. You will never find an alteration in the sunnatullah! (3543)
The definition of Islam
Is it other than the Way of Allah that you desire, when everything in the heavens and earth , willingly or unwillingly, submits / ISLAM (أَسْلَمَ) to Him and to Him you will be returned ? (383)
Is it?
You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality. We can evade reality, but we cannot evade the consequences of evading reality. ~ Ayn Rand
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"willingly or unwillingly, submits!"
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your definition of stupid? nope
It IS stupid.
Is it fallacious (unnatural) gods other than Allah/Sunnatullah/LordLaw of Nature - that you desire? (3786)
Definition of stupid
• Knowing the truth / NATURE = LOGICAL,
• Seeing the truth / NATURE = LOGICAL,
• But still believing the lies / UNNATURE = ILLOGICAL.
"stupid IS, as stupid DOES"
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It IS stupid.
Definition of stupid
• Knowing the truth / NATURE = LOGICAL,
• Seeing the truth / NATURE = LOGICAL,
• But still believing the lies / UNNATURE = ILLOGICAL.
Maybe your definition and the dictionary definition intertwine &
Stupid
having or showing a great lack of intelligence or common sense.
"I was stupid enough to think she was perfect"synonyms unintelligent, ignorant, dense, brainless, mindless, foolish, dull-witted, dull, slow-witted, witless, slow, dunce-like, simpleminded, empty-headed, vacuous, vapid, halfwitted, idiotic, moronic, imbecilic, imbecile, obtuse, doltish;
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Stupidity is a lack of intelligence, understanding, reason, wit, or common sense. Stupidity may be innate, assumed or reactive ? a defence against grief or trauma
And what about my first point?
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Maybe your definition and the dictionary definition intertwine &
Stupid
having or showing a great lack of intelligence or common sense.You must give proofs/evidences and show me that the definition does not apply to stupid people... that's how it works
Say, "This is my 'Islam'. 'Islam' is with proofs and evidences! I, as well as those who follow me". (1210
common sense
common (sense) = universal (sense)
universal (sense) = natural (sense)
THEREFORE
Stupid
having or showing a great lack of NATURAL sense.Is it fallacious (unnatural) gods other than Allah/Sunnatullah/LordLaw of Nature - that you desire? (3786)
They said, "Musa, give us a 'LordLaws' just as these people have (political / unnatural / stupid / imaginary) 'LordLaws'." He said, "You are indeed an ignorant people" (713
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And what about my first point?
read above...
The definition of Islam
Is it other than the Way of Allah that you desire, when everything in the heavens and earth , willingly or unwillingly, submits / ISLAM (أَسْلَمَ) to Him and to Him you will be returned ? (383)
The mathematical pattern in NATURE is SUBMISSION, willingly or unwillingly.
'Mathematics (EcoLogic) is the language in which God has written the universe' ~ Galileo Galilei
Who created the seven heavens, one above the other. You cannot see any inconsistency (ILLOGICAL) in the creation of the Merciful. Look once again, do you see any flaw (NONSENSE or proofs for your imaginary ALLAH)? (673)
NONE ... and what we read in "God's WORD" must agrees with what we see in "God's WORLD"; as our proof for OUR "COMMON SENSE" vs. Stupidity / Insanity / Kafir.
Those who have 'common sense' and do natural actions, how few they are! (3824)
On that Day, We shall ask Hell, Are you now full (WITH STUPID PEOPLE)? Hell will answer, Are there any more?" (5030)
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and even your Allah (imaginary GOD/ Parental God) cannot disobey NATURE.
So Allah has limits? confused
Ayn Rand
What a strange person to quote, but I get your point.
You must give proofs/evidences and show me that the definition does not apply to stupid people... that's how it works
I'm not one who creates his own definitions.
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THEREFORE
Stupid
having or showing a great lack of NATURAL sense.and yes, Allah is FINITE to 1
Say He, Allah, is ONE (1). (1121)
It is a promise binding on Us / ALLAH. That is what We will do. (2110
You will never encounter an alternative for sunnatullah. You will never find an alteration in the sunnatullah! (3543)
Only stupidity is INFINITE...
1 + 1
1 + 1 + 1 ... infinity.The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits. - Albert Einstein
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we can make any meanings from metaphors.
its depends on who invented that metaphor its up to him what ?meanings? we can give to metaphor.and after accepting that meanings of metaphor language give a birth to new word and then we start using that word after invention and it gets common.
using of metaphor is very important as we human dnt know lot of things.
when someone give a differ view of subject and create his own metaphor things become confuse.
metaphor(a) vs metaphor(b) is not = subject
none of them is giving TRUE nature what a human can percieve. thats why its a metaphor.HEIGHT of metaphor is = metaphor of being named as ?GOD? who is above/high than anything what we can associate with him, including energy matter (visible /invisible).