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Allah is ENERGY

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    imrankhawaja
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    First Premise Allah is the Light. (2435)
    Second Premise Say He, Allah, is One. (1121)


    Therefore Say He, Allah the Light, is One. (1121)


    FIRST PREMISE the Allah is (light= creation) of heavens and earth. now i m gona detailed the equation.

    Allah is ( Air,gravity,controller,assembler,desingner) of heavens and earth.

    all creations are giving their servitude to the the purpose what they created for including energy.

    so Allah is all in all. by power/dominion

    SECOND premise Allah is one

    therefore Allah the master of Light is one 112.

    there is nothing we can compare to God .(including light/energy/air.) all
    are uncompareable if light would be exception in 1124 it should written that way ? there is nothing like him apart from ( light )? . but light is already mentioned by name noor so noor is Not Allah according to the principles of QURAN.

    he is the master/lord of sirius.

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      Mahdi_Ibrahim
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      FIRST PREMISE the Allah is (light= creation) of heavens and earth. now i m gona detailed the equation.

      Allah is ( Air,gravity,controller,assembler,desingner) of heavens and earth.

      all creations are giving their servitude to the the purpose what they created for including energy.

      so Allah is all in all. by power/dominion

      SECOND premise Allah is one

      therefore Allah the master of Light is one 112.

      there is nothing we can compare to God .(including light/energy/air.) all
      are uncompareable if light would be exception in 1124 it should written that way � there is nothing like him apart from ( light )� . but light is already mentioned by name noor so noor is Not Allah according to the principles of QURAN.

      he is the master/lord of sirius.

      The word "LIGHT" is the metaphor for ENERGY...

      The metaphor of His Light is that... (2435)

      AND indeed

      Allah IS THE LIGHT

      Everything is LIGHT UPON LIGHT (transformation of ENERGY)

      https//scontent.fkul1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/31955964_2096438007239446_5245547879065452544_n.jpg?_nc_cat=103&_nc_ht=scontent.fkul1-1.fna&oh=7136adb294288f5cd12d70f424c206b8&oe=5C99E458

      so we are not the Light and 98% of the atoms in the human body replaced every year... that leaves our existence is "0".

      1 can never be 0
      (none equal Him)

      Conclusion

      • Allah exists

      • You don't

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        imrankhawaja
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        light = energy we agree they can be metaphors.
        but how can energy/fire/light = God as per 112 ?

        the understanding of light what (WE) have got a source from parent STAR sun. and we know thats due to the chemical process going on SUN.

        THE metaphor of the SOURCE of our light is described there ch 24 when comapring with the source from God = the verse you send.

        here its appears the (light of universe vs the source of universe)
        even one of his creation (light) is way complicated then light we have in sun. thats why verse select (?like?/example). while describing.

        metaphor upon metaphor.

        about my existence dunt worry about it u r going to far in metaphoric approach what is not according to my metaphoric approach. we exist i m writting u and u r replying me. rest of the people witnessing it. still we dnt exist ?

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          Mahdi_Ibrahim
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          we exist i m writting u and u r replying me. rest of the people witnessing it. still we dnt exist ?

          we are being conscious of ALLAH...

          just like dream, it is not real

          but we're being conscious of that reality...

          and need to "wake-up" (enlightenment).

          (i.e. SAY <- "is a command / wake-up" He, Allah/Energy, is ONE. (1121) <- Life's purpose/main mission, ELSE Shirk)

          Issue

          • Our brain/consciousness lie to us during sleep/dream..

          • How can you be sure that your brain/consciousness does not lie to you in this reality? What's your proof?

          Your brain is lying to you in this reality...

          There is no scientific proof for your existence.

          https//scontent.fkul1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/50632863_2275028659380379_964944117639413760_n.jpg?_nc_cat=107&_nc_ht=scontent.fkul1-1.fna&oh=438893bc440cf9d0800ecc340e04c6ae&oe=5CC46BE4

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            imrankhawaja
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            hmm its intresting to know you are talking about brain.

            we (human scientists) are just in our first step of understanding only 1% of our brain yet.(have a break here)

            Sleep is metaphor to death as per (QURAN) if i remember.
            you saying sleep and awake are same no they are opposite sides like negitive positive in magentic/electricity.

            so example is

            awake = life
            sleep = death .

            your undersatinding is in conflict with book(quran) i m pointing out in every post.

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              Mahdi_Ibrahim
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              Sleep is metaphor to death as per (QURAN)

              death (0) is REAL, our reality...

              and the goal of all life IS DEATH (0 or NO DISORDER).

              Death (0) is the perfect state of ENLIGHTENMENT...

              There is no contradiction.

              And when you said, ´Musa, we will not believe in you until we see Allah with our own eyes.´ So the thunder-bolt struck you dead while you were looking. Then We brought you back to life after your death, so that perhaps you would show thanks. (255-56)

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                imrankhawaja
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                zero = 0
                death is not = 0

                the worth of body upon death become zero.hence we burried/fire it.

                DEATH is process when lifeforce of body expire by whatever reason.

                DEATH / LIFE
                Sleep/dreams/awake everything got a VALUE in the records of CREATOR.

                DNA and fingerprints are assigned to us as VALUE/ID of us on a loan based TIME.

                death is ending of body not the ending of life. a process continue what we say afterlife a big mystery. not life of body but the ?character/self? that use to live in that body.

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                  And when you said, ´Musa, we will not believe in you until we see Allah with our own eyes.´ So the thunder-bolt struck you dead while you were looking. Then We brought you back to life after your death, so that perhaps you would show thanks. (255-56)

                  yeh look here they were unable to see.if it would be (light) moses must make SUN GLASSES fot the viewrs. O0 it appears they were able to see light but they were unable to see the God of moses. which was not light as per event?

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                    Mahdi_Ibrahim
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                    zero = 0
                    death is not = 0

                    the worth of body upon death become zero.hence we burried/fire it.

                    DEATH is process when lifeforce of body expire by whatever reason.

                    DEATH / LIFE
                    Sleep/dreams/awake everything got a VALUE in the records of CREATOR.

                    DNA and fingerprints are assigned to us as VALUE/ID of us on a loan based TIME.

                    death is ending of body not the ending of life. a process continue what we say afterlife a big mystery. not life of body but the �chatacter� that use to live in that body.

                    death is the metaphor for 0 ....

                    perfect enlightenment or absolute surrender/Islam.

                    and when you're in the state of sinless.

                    before that death, you need to be in the state of death before death itself..

                    i.e. be "0" and align your nature to NATURE ( = Solat)

                    That's DIE, BEFORE DEATH.

                    We hear NATURE / SUNNATULLAH
                    We obey NATURE / SUNNATULLAH

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                      Mahdi_Ibrahim
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                      yeh look here they were unable to see.if it would be (light) moses must make SUN GLASSES fot the viewrs. O0 it appears they were able to see light but they were unable to see the God of moses. which was not light as per event?

                      "...we see Allah with our own eyes.´ So the thunder-bolt struck you dead while you were looking. .."

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                        Mahdi_Ibrahim
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                        main mission, or purpose of life is...

                        SAY He, Allah/Energy/Sunnatullah, is ONE. (1121)

                        ie. you are 0 (die before death)

                        https//scontent.fkul1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/29314154_2072619772954603_4653081173110317916_n.jpg?_nc_cat=103&_nc_ht=scontent.fkul1-1.fna&oh=32878dbf7c034a08e1358d0e5f67d097&oe=5CC0F06B

                        die, before it is too late.

                        But you cannot will (1+1+1+..), unless Allah wills (1 = ENERGY = SUNNATULLAH). (7630)

                        ie. you are 0 (die before death)

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                          Mahdi_Ibrahim
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                          main mission, or purpose of life is...

                          you're made of atoms, and thus be an atoms (0)...

                          we hear NATURE/SUNNATULLAH/ENERGY/MATHEMATICAL PATTERN
                          we obey NATURE/SUNNATULLAH/ENERGY/MATHEMATICAL PATTERN

                          don't be delusional...

                          ie. being arrogant to the SUNNATULLAH / LordLaw of NATURE / EcoLogic ... ie. Kafir of the Sunnatullah / Kafir of the Way of Allah / Kafir of the LordLaw of Nature.

                          https//scontent.fkul1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/28661255_2066003336949580_1299231724530863137_n.jpg?_nc_cat=108&_nc_ht=scontent.fkul1-1.fna&oh=1fea62a6e42a28d9a5f9133acd39ea60&oe=5CFAB844

                          As for those who deny Our "NATURAL" Signs (Sunnatullah, Way of Allah, LordLaw of Nature, ENERGY, Mathematical Pattern, EcoLogic) and are arrogant regarding them, the Gates of Heaven will not be opened for them, and they will not enter the Garden until a camel goes through a needle´s eye. That is how We repay the evildoers. (740)

                          VALIDITY? + TRUTH? = SOUNDNESS?
                          Nature + Nature = Nature (Paradise)
                          Nature + Unnature = Unnature (Hell)
                          Unnature + Nature = Unnature (Hell)
                          Unnature + Unnature = Unnature (Hell)

                          Half truth, whole lies...

                          On that Day, We shall ask Hell, Are you now full (with Kafir of the SUNNATULLAH/ LordLaw of Nature/ Energy / EcoLogic)? Hell will answer, Are there any more? (5030)

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                            imrankhawaja
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                            "...we see Allah with our own eyes.´ So the thunder-bolt struck you dead while you were looking. .."

                            255 And recall when you said, ?O Moses! We will not believe in you unless we see God face to face!? Thereupon thunder struck you as you were looking on.

                            when did they see GOD in person?
                            linking 254 with 256 giving more accurate picture

                            254 When Moses returned, he said to his people, ?O my people! You have hurt your own ?self? by worshiping the calf. So, turn in repentance to your Maker and kill your ego (rebellious mentality). This will be best for you in the Sight of your Maker.?

                            killing is metaphorical here in 254

                            256 Then We revived you, and raised you from a dead to a living nation so that you might show gratitude.

                            perfect pair of metaphors of life and death in shape of travelling towards light from darkness. they have an amazing thing called calf same like u have amazing thing called energy.

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                              255 And recall when you said, �O Moses! We will not believe in you unless we see God face to face!� Thereupon thunder struck you as you were looking on.

                              when did they see GOD in it ?

                              linking 254 with 256 giving more accurate picture

                              254 When Moses returned, he said to his people, �O my people! You have hurt your own �self� by worshiping the calf. So, turn in repentance to your Maker and kill your ego (rebellious mentality). This will be best for you in the Sight of your Maker.�

                              killing is metaphorical here in 254

                              256 Then We revived you, and raised you from a dead to a living nation so that you might show gratitude.

                              perfect pair of metaphors of life and death in shape of travelling towards light from darkness. they have an amazing thing called calf same like u have amazing thing called energy.

                              you're free to have your own interpretation...

                              there is no significance in it because...

                              my interpretation, all dead people (experiencing death) are qualified to see Allah.

                              Every self will be tasting death. (3185)

                              Take off your sandals. (2012)

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                                Mahdi_Ibrahim
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                                Do not suppose that those killed in the Way of Allah are dead. No indeed! They are alive and well provided for in the very presence of their Lord, (3169)

                                https//scontent.fkul1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/31906798_2095959713953942_4246102310612107264_n.png?_nc_cat=103&_nc_ht=scontent.fkul1-1.fna&oh=d0eee67534d9033634fa7a8042443e01&oe=5CF639B3
                                (flow as life flows = SOLAT = align our nature to NATURE, 1+0=1)

                                ie. live forever in this reality, "in the very presence of Allah"

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                                  good_logic
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                                  Peace brother Mahdi.
                                  I opened my computer to reply to your post but it was mostly not there. I looked at my chair and it was mostly not there either. This is when I fell onto the floor but I was not hurt because I was mostly not there !
                                  However if this post reaches you then
                                  ?There are only two worlds - your world, which is the real world, and other worlds, the fantasy. Worlds like this are worlds of the human imagination their reality, or lack of reality, is not important.
                                  What is important is that they are there. these worlds provide an alternative. Provide an escape. Provide a threat. Provide a dream, and power; provide refuge, and pain. They give your world meaning. They do not exist; and thus they are all that matters. ?
                                  Neil Gaiman, The Books of Magic
                                  Or
                                  ?There will come a time when all of us are dead. All of us. There will come a time when there are no human beings remaining to remember that anyone ever existed or that our species ever did anything.
                                  There will be no one left to remember Aristotle or Cleopatra, let alone you. Everything that we did and built and wrote and thought and discovered will be forgotten and all of this will have been for naught.
                                  Maybe that time is coming soon and maybe it is millions of years away, but even if we survive the collapse of our sun, we will not survive forever.
                                  There was time before organisms experienced consciousness, and there will be time after. And if the inevitability of human oblivion worries you, I encourage you to ignore it. God/energy/Dieu... knows that?s what everyone else does.?
                                  John Green, The Fault in Our Stars
                                  Or
                                  ?La plus belle des ruses du diable est de vous persuader qu'il n'existe pas."

                                  ("The devil's finest trick is to persuade you that he does not exist.&quot?
                                  Charles Baudelaire, Paris Spleen
                                  GOD bless you.
                                  Peace.

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                                    Mahdi_Ibrahim
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                                    I speaks about scientific fact..

                                    Everything is ENERGY (ALLAH).
                                    and your only existence is consciousness...

                                    "Everything is energy ... This is not philosophy. This is physics." ~ Albert Einstein

                                    • delusional. n . characterized by or holding idiosyncratic beliefs or impressions that are contradicted by reality or rational argument, typically as a symptom of mental disorder.

                                    Which of you is mad? (686)

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                                      good_logic
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                                      Peace Mahdi.
                                      And this is also Science

                                      Wendelstein 7-X (W7-X) is tipped to be one of the game-changing designs that could make commercial nuclear fusion reactors a reality. The test so far has been extremely positive and during the latest round of experimentation, it broke several records.
                                      W7-X's latest run started after some important adjustments. Since last September, the reactor has been fitted with new and snazzy interior cladding made of graphite. This allowed W7-X to contain a hotter and denser plasma. Details are published in Nature Physics.

                                      W7-X is a stellarator, one of the two main approaches used to construct a functional nuclear reactor. It is shaped like a twisted doughnut. Magnets are wrapped around the stellarator to keep the plasma confined. The machine was able to take the plasma to a temperature of 40 million degrees Celsius (72 million degrees Fahrenheit). The plasma was kept fusing for up to 26 seconds, a significant increase from the six seconds of the first run. By keeping the plasma in the chamber for longer it got the world record for fusion production using a stellarator.
                                      ?This is an excellent value for a device of this size, achieved, moreover, under realistic conditions, i.e. at a high temperature of the plasma ions,? co-author Professor Thomas Sunn Pedersen said in a statement. ?First experience with the new wall elements are highly positive. This makes us optimistic for our further work.?

                                      The goal of the project is to make stellarators commercially viable. To do so, it is necessary to create a plasma that exceeds 100 million degrees Celsius (180 million degrees Fahrenheit). At that temperature, the hydrogen from the plasma will convert into helium releasing more energy than is required to heat up the plasma.
                                      This thing is creating energy
                                      A bigger god is creating your god.
                                      GOD bless you.
                                      Peace.

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                                        Mahdi_Ibrahim
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                                        What's the difference?

                                        It doesn't change the fact that everthing is ENERGY... no?

                                        At that temperature, the hydrogen from the plasma will convert into helium releasing more energy than is required to heat up the plasma.
                                        This thing is creating energy

                                        It is the transformation of Energy.

                                        Basic science/law of thermodynamics, Energy cannot be created.

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                                          good_logic
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                                          Peace Mahdi.
                                          No difference?
                                          Some energy that is created now did not exist before like from the machine I mentioned.
                                          You say it has existed before the machine created it? Let s have your science evidence for it.

                                          I say if the machine that created that energy did not exist before, the energy that resulted from the machine did not exist also. It also tells me the energy that we have is not complete since we can add to it.
                                          GOD bless you.
                                          Peace.

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