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Allah is ENERGY

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    imrankhawaja
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    IF God = energy

    then sub gods are.

    kinetic energy
    potential energy
    dark energy.

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      Jafar
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      The Ultimate is The Ultimate
      Brahman is Brahman
      Infinity is Infinity
      "I am" who "I am".

      That is also the reason why there is only one and indivisible

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        Mahdi_Ibrahim
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        There is no reality but ENERGY.

        That is Allah, your LordLaw, ie. the Creator (Cause & Effect, Energy) of everything. There is no LordLaw but Him ? so how are you deluded? (4062)

        That is Allah, your LordLaw, There is no LordLaw but Him, ie. the Creator (Cause & Effect, Energy) of everything. So serve Him. He is responsible for everything. (6102)

        Musa said "Allah is the LordLaw (Energy) of the East and the West AND EVERYTHING IN BETWEEN. You would understand Allah if you USE REASON. (262

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          imrankhawaja
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          brackets are risky sometimes lol

          we can say God created everything from energy. by applying same methods of brackets.

          what make energy an ENERGY ? another energy or when we find that kind/thing we give it a new name FONGROW a thing what become cause of making any energy existed. hmm

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            Mahdi_Ibrahim
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            What is there other than Energy? Tell me...

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              imrankhawaja
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              What is there other than Energy? Tell me...

              you tell me what makes THAT energy ? hidden energy probably lol
              and there is a LOT more than energy have a break have a kitkat n see what else is coming let them explore and master the energy they let u know ( scientists ) lol.

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                Mahdi_Ibrahim
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                You have no idea about Energy in Physics.

                That's all.

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                  Novice
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                  You have no idea about Energy in Physics.

                  That's all.

                  Salaam brother

                  You need to distinguish between creator and creation. There is no God if you call it energy. We cannot give shape or form to God. We cannot perceive in our present capacity what God is.
                  You can harvest energy but not God.
                  You can control energy but not God.
                  You can create energy but not God.

                  We are just a creation and in our earthly capacity we cannot perceive what God is.

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                    Mahdi_Ibrahim
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                    There is no God if you call it energy.

                    https//encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbnANd9GcTjbhXsd6UN4Z2OW9YSa4kAvrTZY1_i9IZfbJdh1nlR9mUiOZ8Wew

                    He creates man/matter from magnetic particles (atoms). (962)

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                      https//encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbnANd9GcTjbhXsd6UN4Z2OW9YSa4kAvrTZY1_i9IZfbJdh1nlR9mUiOZ8Wew

                      He creates man/matter from magnetic particles (atoms). (962)

                      Are you suggesting "" means magnetic particles or atoms? If so how you got this meaning?

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                        Mahdi_Ibrahim
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                        Are you suggesting "" means magnetic particles or atoms? If so how you got this meaning?

                        of course..

                        961 Read in (the) name/validity (of) your LordLaw the One Who creates (ie. "creation" = LordLaw of Cause of Effect)

                        962 He creates man/matter from a clingingmagnetic substanceparticles (matter).

                        https//scontent.fkul7-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/34318282_2109835465899700_7710964505466896384_n.jpg?_nc_cat=107&_nc_ht=scontent.fkul7-1.fna&oh=ed986fef4cee0f91760ef77d6d99f91b&oe=5CD47E9C

                        https//i.pinimg.com/originals/b4/b8/ca/b4b8caf5461c6bc0873167596bd319ec.jpg

                        https//kaiserscience.files.wordpress.com/2015/03/all-in-one-ecosystem-from-atom-to-biosphere.jpg

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                          Mahdi_Ibrahim
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                          You can harvest energy but not God.
                          You can control energy but not God.
                          You can create energy but not God.

                          76.30. You cannot will unless "Energy" wills.

                          Except atoms are empty space and there is no "YOU"

                          There is "NO GOD (YOU)"

                          and what is known as "YOU" is the delusion (dreams)

                          1031 Who controls hearing and sight?

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                            imrankhawaja
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                            You have no idea about Energy in Physics.

                            That's all.

                            exactly i have no idea but i have a valid and logical thing to think about i.e who is the creator of ENERGY and if you want to ask it in your own method then.

                            what is the cause of the EFFECT ( energy)?

                            i think you know lot about energy kindly explain me about dark energy scientists apparently failed to understand it yet but rest of the energies they atleast have idea so you can share your knowledge about it. good for readers peace

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                              Mahdi_Ibrahim
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                              Energy, in physics, the capacity for doing work.

                              That's it.

                              "It does not require many words to speak the TRUTH"

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                                imrankhawaja
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                                Energy, in physics, the capacity for doing work.

                                That's it.

                                brilliant can we have some examples and tell us little about RED part

                                although u can use and get help from physics i dun mind.

                                i know i can google it too but wana hear your views?

                                God bless you

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                                  Mahdi_Ibrahim
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                                  Energy is "the capacity for doing work"

                                  so who comes first?

                                  A. Allah

                                  B. Energy

                                  A or B?

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                                    imrankhawaja
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                                    so who comes first?

                                    A. Allah

                                    B. Energy

                                    A or B?

                                    so apparently here is the equation

                                    we are relying our equation based on the factor of TIME?

                                    who will set the limits of TIME ?

                                    atleast i see we have two big enemies that can challange GOD.
                                    energy and time.

                                    at some point in past these two and lot others were dietes of worship.and THEN ch 112 refutes all those sub gods. new model of God.
                                    your model is bit old mate lol.

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                                      Mahdi_Ibrahim
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                                      What's the point if you cannot decide between A or B?

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                                        hawk99
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                                        GOD is best described with His 99 attributes,

                                        Yep!

                                        And sorry, energy is not among them. nope

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                                          Mahdi_Ibrahim
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                                          THEN ch 112 refutes all those sub gods.

                                          As I said, you have no idea about Energy in Physics.

                                          Premise 1 Allah is the Light of the heavens and the earthEVERYTHING. (2435)

                                          Premise 2 Allah = Light (metaphor) = Energy

                                          Therefore

                                          Chapter 112 The Law of Thermodynamics

                                          1121 Say "He is ENERGY, One,"

                                          1122 "ENERGY is Absolute (matter is 0),"

                                          1123 ENERGY has not given birthcannot be destroyed nor is He borncan be created

                                          1124 Nor is there anyonematter equal to ENERGY.

                                          BUT

                                          When he came to the Fire he was called "O Moses. I (FIRE) am your Lord!" (2013)

                                          Like the fire of Moses which he saw as what he needed. It was Allah but he did not perceive it.

                                          Do you believe in part of the Book and disbelieve in another part of it? (285)

                                          Allah = Fire

                                          Therefore, 1 (Allah/Energy) NOT EQUAL 0 (matter/you/fire)

                                          He creates man from a clingingmagnetic substanceparticles (matter = 0 / empty space). (962)

                                          Therefore

                                          Say He, Allah/Energy, is One. (1121)

                                          1. Energy = 1

                                          2. Matter = 0 (empty space)

                                          (0 = "We hear, we obey" ... ELSE, deluded / insanity / shirk)

                                          There is no reality but ENERGY / ALLAH (1).

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