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Allah is ENERGY

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    imrankhawaja
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    my proof on its definition, ie. "energy is the cause of any change", the Creator.

    so what is your proof things other than "is the cause of any change" and vibrations etc?

    your proof is not sufficent enough it lead to further questions even before science philosphy asked it..

    what cause a change to make ENERGY at first place ? who caused it ?
    what is the difference between (matter/antimatter) and LIFE ?

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      imrankhawaja
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      so if cosmos are doing stupidity and fallacies its mean cosmos is at un-natural order ?

      brother that one was important question u missed it,
      it will give lot help if u explain how cosmos can be un-natural ?

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        Mahdi_Ibrahim
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        your proof is not sufficent enough it lead to further questions even before science philosphy asked it..

        what cause a change to make ENERGY at first place ? who caused it ?
        what is the difference between (matter/antimatter) and LIFE ?

        "what cause a change" is ENERGY... understand?

        my proof on its definition, ie. "energy is the cause of any change", the Creator.

        so what is your proof things other than "is the cause of any change" and vibrations, atoms etc?

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          Mahdi_Ibrahim
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          it will give lot help if u explain how cosmos can be un-natural ?

          prove "consistency" of

          Then how you identify it as the "cosmos" if it is being inconsistent as "cosmos"?

          How you identify the patterns and named it as the "cosmos"? rotfl

          He created seven universes in layers. You do not see any imperfection in the creation by the Almighty. Keep looking; Do you see any flaw? (Q673)

          CONSEQUENCE, is NO COINCIDENCE (consistency)

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            imrankhawaja
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            Brother why it's always my luck to explain own questions to members due to which discussion stuck where it's started.

            We already know it's natural and perfect and intelligent design as we already observing it.

            I want you to tell me unnatural, imperfect and unintelligent design in cosmos with examples ?

            I will not repeat my THING again if u will beat the bush around again.Take ur time PLZ

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              TheHinaterians
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              What is there other than Energy? Tell me...

              I understand atheism's view and as atheists are beings like us their brain is extra careful about details which is natural, though they seem to not analyse long enough or openly enough to listen to valid points or discover the links.

              What created the quarks? how can vibrations create vibrations? Does nothing create nothing?
              For there to be existence there needs to be something FIRST.

              What initiated the Big Bang?

              What planned for the universe to be closed? (physics theory . 0 . )

              How did nature point out to be perfectly calculated and detailed so that observe it with awe each time?
              You may say that's just where we woke up and found everything to be.
              We did not witness creationism or evolution occur, yet you only support evolution but not creationism.
              The only invisible thing here is your logic or patience or focus (with all respect).
              Yes, according to my sight God is invisible, though according to logic and convincing proofs, there is a creator that initialised all this you see and don't see with a naked eye.

              May your "quarks" bless you (even though they just are simply matter and not the creator of themselves and universe(s)),
              TheHinaterians

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                Mahdi_Ibrahim
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                I want you to tell me unnatural, imperfect and unintelligent design in cosmos with examples ?

                • You believe in the Unnatural, and cannot prove there are things other than Energy

                • I believe in the Natural, and already prove that it is "the patterns (ENERGY)" you identify it as the "cosmos"

                • Even the one you identified as the unnatural patterns are also ENERGY, which is at all times supporting "my argument"

                Thus why then I'm the one who should proves the unnatural etc. ie. your argument.. stupid or what? rotfl

                What's wrong with your logic? (Q6836)

                It is your burden of proof to show that it is NOT Energy (the ability to do work)


                so what is your proof things other than "is the cause of any change" and vibrations, atoms etc?

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                  Mahdi_Ibrahim
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                  I understand atheism's view and as atheists are beings like us their brain is extra careful about details which is natural, though they seem to not analyse long enough or openly enough to listen to valid points or discover the links.

                  What created the quarks? how can vibrations create vibrations? Does nothing create nothing?
                  For there to be existence there needs to be something FIRST .

                  What initiated the Big Bang?

                  What planned for the universe to be closed? (physics theory . 0 . )

                  How did nature point out to be perfectly calculated and detailed so that observe it with awe each time ?
                  You may say that's just where we woke up and found everything to be.
                  We did not witness creationism or evolution occur, yet you only support evolution but not creationism.
                  The only invisible thing here is your logic or patience or focus (with all respect).
                  Yes, according to my sight God is invisible, though according to logic and convincing proofs, there is a creator that initialised all this you see and don't see with a naked eye.

                  May your "quarks" bless you (even though they just are simply matter and not the creator of themselves and universe(s)),
                  TheHinaterians

                  So does all that already answered my argument that Allah is ENERGY?

                  my proof on its definition, ie. "energy is the cause of any change", the Creator.

                  and to the extent

                  Who controls hearing and sight? (Q1031) Who?

                  Is it not the "capacity for doing work" or the cause of any change"? laugh

                  https//i.ytimg.com/vi/o_5oYuDY2qM/hqdefault.jpg

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                    imrankhawaja
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                    I want you to tell me unnatural, imperfect and unintelligent design in cosmos with examples ?

                    I will not repeat my THING again if u will beat the bush around again.Take ur time PLZ

                    i know you or anybody else dnt have this answer ACT on bold again i know you spend hours finding the answer but live with it now yay

                    THINK THINK THINK

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                      imrankhawaja
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                      so if cosmos are doing stupidity and fallacies its mean cosmos is at un-natural order ?

                      rotfl rotfl rotfl rotfl rotfl rotfl rotfl rotfl

                      at this occassion why you told us about un-natural, becoz thats what u can find it in human imagination ...human experience and u just copy cat sommeone else work ... now i turned the tables to see how much knowledge a MESSENGER have ?

                      as soon i convert it to cosmos you get stumped hahahaha yay yay yay

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                        imrankhawaja
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                        fallacies and stupidity,

                        lol i tricked you same way the way king get tricked from abraham , this book is lovely rotfl

                        Thus why then I'm the one who should proves the unnatural etc. ie. your argument.. stupid or what? rotfl

                        its time to go home mate... voodoo
                        you consistently proves and posted about un-natural things about humans but you failed in cosmos lol

                        the creation of universe is far superior than human beings (al quran) yes

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                          Mahdi_Ibrahim
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                          i know you or anybody else dnt have this answer ACT on bold again i know you spend hours finding the answer but live with it now yay

                          THINK THINK THINK

                          are you stupid? rotfl

                          I want you to tell me unnatural, imperfect and unintelligent design in cosmos with examples ?

                          • You believe in the Unnatural, and cannot prove there are things other than Energy

                          • I believe in the Natural, and already prove that it is "the patterns (ENERGY)" you identify it as the "cosmos"

                          • Even the one you identified as the unnatural patterns are also ENERGY, which is at all times supporting "my argument"

                          Thus why then I'm the one who should proves the unnatural etc. ie. your argument.. stupid or what? rotfl

                          What's wrong with your logic? (Q6836)

                          It is your burden of proof to show that it is NOT Energy (the ability to do work)


                          so what is your proof things other than "is the cause of any change" and vibrations, atoms etc?

                          rotfl rotfl rotfl rotfl rotfl rotfl rotfl rotfl

                          at this occassion why you told us about un-natural, becoz thats what u can find it in human imagination ...human experience and u just copy cat sommeone else work ... now i turned the tables to see how much knowledge a MESSENGER have ?

                          as soon i convert it to cosmos you get stumped hahahaha yay yay yay

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                            imrankhawaja
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                            are you stupid? rotfl

                            rotfl rotfl rotfl rotfl rotfl rotfl

                            look thats what happen when something reached/nailed to bellybutton lmao

                            STUPID is your last argument whenever u get stumped why you love getting embarrassed, save your energy for some good instead of calling people stupid...

                            what the ***** you learn from book that calling people stupid ,

                            you are a shame on the name of messengers

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                              Mahdi_Ibrahim
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                              MY ARGUMENT

                              He created seven universes in layers . You do not see any imperfection in the creation by the Almighty. Keep looking; Do you see any flaw? (Q673)

                              The "cosmos" is perfection and without any flaw...

                              Understand?

                              ELSE

                              How you identify it as the "cosmos" if it is being inconsistent as "cosmos"?

                              How you identify the patterns and named it as the "cosmos"? Prove it rotfl

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                                imrankhawaja
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                                MY ARGUMENT

                                The "cosmos" is perfection and without any flaw...

                                Understand?

                                so explain the imperfections of cosmos same you alrwady described the imperfections/un-natural things about humans what happened here...

                                Go sleep and ask God to send gabi towards you may b he know what a imperfect cosmos look/feel like ?
                                best chance to give a world something what they know not..

                                aww i think ur knowledge about cosmos is weak you only know whats already there lol

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                                  Mahdi_Ibrahim
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                                  so explain the imperfections of cosmos

                                  Do you understand English?

                                  He created seven universes in layers . You do not see any imperfection in the creation by the Almighty. Keep looking; Do you see any flaw? (Q673)

                                  Therefore

                                  ELSE

                                  How you identify it as the "cosmos" if it is being inconsistent as "cosmos"?

                                  How you identify the patterns and named it as the "cosmos"? Prove it rotfl

                                  ie. The ISSUE.

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                                    imrankhawaja
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                                    Do you understand English?

                                    i do but you dont rotfl

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                                      Mahdi_Ibrahim
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                                      i do but you dont rotfl

                                      Then you must be stupid... rotfl

                                      ELSE what does this verse mean to you?

                                      He created seven universes in layers . You do not see any imperfection in the creation by the Almighty. Keep looking; Do you see any flaw? (Q673)

                                      Does Allah says the cosmos is imperfection and with flaws?

                                      Who is more truthful in saying than God? (Q487)

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                                        imrankhawaja
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                                        Does Allah says the cosmos is imperfection?

                                        say does ENERGY says cosmos is imperfections ?

                                        aww weak students do mistakes on their own claims rotfl rotfl rotfl

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                                          imrankhawaja
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                                          Then you must be stupid... rotfl

                                          you are confused STUPID a type of stupid who thinks he is clever and rest are stupid or a "control freaked stupid"

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