Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>
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Peace Mahdi.
For me a better qualified Mahdi in recent years was the Sesame street character, Kermit the Frog.
I find it a bit laughable just where the Imam Mahdi you are claiming to be would rank on the "relating" scale in comparison to Kermit the Frog.
You remind me of this Imam s story
"I am aware that my position as hereditary Imam provokes constant queries from commentators in this forum.
They remind me of Imam Mahdi(you) talking about his long family history who was finally challenged at a dinner party with the words "I suppose your ancestors were in the Ark with Noah, too." "No" he replied calmly, "actually they had their own boat."
One of your ancesters was the messenger then,Noah was a fake.Many have said to me, brother good logic, why do you make these jokes? And I said why shouldn't I make jokes?
I remind them that, in Islam, happiness is a blessing. It is a blessing from Allah. Therefore if you have smiles, and if you have happy forum members, and you have friends, and you enjoy the qualities of life, this is also a reason to be thankful for the blessing from Allah
Unlike you I do not call members mad or retards!Of course brother, start with the basic assumption that the world is a much better place because it is pluralist and multi-cultural.
Imagine what it would be like living in a world of no diversity, a world where we were all the same colour, shape and size, ate the same ,became Imam Mahdi all of us, told the same jokes. I would find a world like that quite boring! Even if there was no climate change!Mahdi, It is an honour to be conversing with you. If IQ could be converted into kilowatts, I have no doubt that the quantum massed here in this forum from your threads would meet the world's energy requirements for at least a decade.
So never mind Allah=energy, your energy alone will take over the world.
GOD bless you.
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except none of it is LOGICAL..
"God exists since mathematics (nature, natural justice) is consistent, and
The Devil exists since we cannot prove it (unnature, forced justice)."see? it doesn't matter what you think... no usage (delusional, insantiy). lol
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Then all I can say to you brother Mahdi is that your logic is upside down. Like this story of another Imam
One hot day, An Imam was taking it easy in the shade of a walnut tree. After a time, he started eyeing speculatively, the huge pumpkins growing on vines and the small walnuts growing on a majestic tree.
Sometimes I just can't understand the ways of God! He mused. Just fancy letting tiny walnuts grow on so majestic a tree and huge pumpkins on the delicate vines!
Just then a walnut snapped off and fell smack on the Imam s bald head. He got up at once and lifting up his hands and face to heavens in supplication, said
Oh, my God! Forgive my questioning your ways! You are all-wise. Where would I have been now, if pumpkins grew on trees!Logic brother is not what you seem to think it is?
GOD bless you.
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Then all I can say to you brother Mahdi is that your logic is upside down. Like this story of another Imam
Prove it...
Argument Law is the conditions of natural harmony for all species. ~ Mahdi Ibrahim
I doubt you have the ability, in fact... 100% certain.
What is Logic?
https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPfw422Wcso
obviously not your kind of logic (insanity) rotfl
If you turn away - know that the only duty of Our Messenger is clear communication/arguments. (592)
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~ THE UNLETTERED
Those We have given the Book/Ordain recognise it as they recognize their own sons. Yet a group of them knowingly conceal the truth. (2146)
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Peace Mahdi.
You are still asking me to Prove it... !!!!
OK--But do not change the argument or ignore what I say--
Here is my proof;
I am the true Imam Mahdi because
"We'll define it to be true." By definition,- I call everybody brother.
- I like nature and the environment.
Number 3 will only to be used if your agreement is impossible. - " For any epsilon> 0 there exists a corresponding delta > 0 s.t. f(x) L < epsilon whenever x a < delta"
Finally"And the Lord said, 'Let it be true,' and it came to pass."
I am Imam Mahdi."I don't care what you say! It is true!"
GOD bless you.
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That awkward moment when those who know nothing about logic insisting he is an expert, the "World Gym" ... and, always missing the point / question! I gave up with this kind of logic. rotfl
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You shall be three kinds. (567)
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• People of the Right, 568/39-40
Ecological Citizens; Muslim• People of the Left, 569, 5030
Forced Justice; Kafirun, fasiq and fajir• The Forerunner, 56.10-14
Founder (Imam) of Jurisprudential School of Thought; Rasul
Burden of Proof for the Forerunner or Founder (Imam)
• FORMULA If Allah guides someone (natural justice), he cannot be misguided (forced justice). (3937)
Those who have iman (guided) and do natural actions, how few they are! (3824)
REASON http//www.sunnatullah.com/page/matheism
They are a large group of the earlier generations (before the Quran) and a few of later generations (after the Quran) (5613-14)• Founder for a School of Thought, Sunnatullah Alone
• Jihad for non-cooperation and civil disobedience, vs. Forced Justice/Political Jurisprudence
Burden of Proof for the Ibrahims's Descendant Forerunner or Founder (Imam)
Then We passed the Book to those of Our servants whom We chose. Some of them wrong their souls (People of the Left), and some follow a middle course (People of the Right), and some are in the foremost (Founder in Jurisprudential School of Thought and Jihad, conditions of Chapter 103 // Pillars of Matheism) in natural deeds by Allah's leave; that is the greatest blessing. (3532)
None can be the founder except with "Allah's greatest blessing", ie. contract between Allah and Ibrahim
What is the Contract? ("Allah's greatest blessing"
Remember when Ibrahim was tested by his Lord with certain words which he carried out completely. He said, "I will make you an Imam (Founder) for mankind." He asked, ´And what of my descendants?´ He said, " My contract ("Allah's greatest blessing" does not include the wrongdoers (descendants)." (2124)
Therefore
IF guided (Founder in Jurisprudential School of Thought/Ecological Justice and Jihad for Ecological Nation One Nation or Constitutional Islam https//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9610467.0)
THEN certainly Ibrahim's descendant for Allah's contract, ie. Imam al-Mahdi
ELSE certainly not Imam al-Mahdi, and highly probable not Ibrahim's descendantBURDEN OF PROOF
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On that Day, We shall ask Hell, Are you now full? Hell will answer, Are there any more? (5030)
Therefore
That awkward moment when people from Political Jurisprudence (Forced Justice / People of the Book) claimed to be Imam al-Mahdi, without proof of logic. rotfl
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Peace Mahdi
You are in for a treat. I told you I will prove your logic is upside down and your argument changes every post and every thread.You thing we are fools, let us see who the fool is
This following proof kills your argument
Statement S(n) In any group of n people, everyone in that group is Imam Mahdi.
Proof
In any group that consists of just one person, everybody in the group is Imam Mahdi, because after all there is only one person!Therefore, statement S(1) is true. Follow on
The next stage in the induction argument is to prove that, whenever S(n) is true for one number (say n=k), it is also true for the next number (that is, n = k+1).
We can do this by (1) assuming that, in every group of k people, everyone is Imam Mahdi; then (2) deducing from it that, in every group of k+1 people, everyone is Imam Mahdi.
Let G be an arbitrary group of k+1 people; we just need to show that every member of G is Imam Mahdi.
To do this, we just need to show that, if P and Q are any members of G, then they are also Imam Mahdi.
Consider everybody in G except P. These people form a group of k people, so they must all be Imam Mahdi(since we are assuming that, in any group of k people, everyone is Imam Mahdi).
Consider everybody in G except Q. Again, they form a group of k people, so they must be all Imam Mahdi.
Let R be someone else in G other than P or Q.
Since Q and R each belong to the group considered in step 7, they are Imam Mahdi.
Since P and R each belong to the group considered in step 8, they are Imam Mahdi.
Since Q and R are Imam Mahdi, and P and R are Imam Mahdi, it follows that P and Q are also Imam Mahdi
We have now seen that, if we consider any two people P and Q in G, they are Imam Mahdi. It follows that everyone in G is Imam Mahdi
The proof is now complete we have shown that the statement is true for n=1, and we have shown that whenever it is true for n=k it is also true for n=k+1, so by induction it is true for all n.
Since everyone -n- is Imam Mahdi ,I must be Imam Mahdi.
You cannot be Imam Mahdi because you do not belong to any group. To you all groups are mad ,deluded and retards.
Hence proven beyond any doubt that your logic is upside down. FALSE.
GOD bless you brother.
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Since everyone -n- is Imam Mahdi ,I must be Imam Mahdi.
You cannot be Imam Mahdi because you do not belong to any group ( = religion of "forced justice" . To you all groups ( = religion of "forced justice" are mad ,deluded and retards.full of nonsense.. and in contradiction with its main premise
because after all there is only one person!
actual premise
You shall be three kinds (GROUPS). (regardless of gods/religions/etc) (567)
THUS "who" and "what" gives you the right to define "n"?
Your "forced justice (political jurisprudence / shaytan) GOD"?
Therefore, "n" = group of Human Shaytans
...shaytans from both mankind and from the jinn, who inspire (religism / grouping) each other with delusions (unnature) by means of specious words (fallacies — if your LordLaw (of Nature) had willed, they would not have done it, so abandon them and all they fabricate (group of forced justice, political jurisprudence). (6112)
See how deluded you are? rotfl
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The reality...
Whereas, Imam Mahdi = People of Ibrahim, Ibrahims'
"n" = Ibrahim, and "k" = "...And what of my descendants?´ He said, " My contract ("Allah's greatest blessing" does not include the wrongdoers (descendants)." (2124)..."
the "Imam" (descendants of Ibrahim)
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k =
You shall be three kinds. (567)
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• People of the Right, 568/39-40
Ecological Citizens; Muslim• People of the Left, 569, 5030
Forced Justice; Kafirun, fasiq and fajir• The Forerunner, 56.10-14
Founder (Imam) of Jurisprudential School of Thought; Rasul
Burden of Proof for the Forerunner or Founder (Imam)
• FORMULA If Allah guides someone (natural justice), he cannot be misguided (forced justice). (3937)
Those who have iman (guided) and do natural actions, how few they are! (3824)
REASON http//www.sunnatullah.com/page/matheism
They are a large group of the earlier generations (before the Quran) and a few of later generations (after the Quran) (5613-14)• Founder for a School of Thought, Sunnatullah Alone
• Jihad for non-cooperation and civil disobedience, vs. Forced Justice/Political Jurisprudence
Burden of Proof for the Ibrahims's Descendant Forerunner or Founder (Imam)
Then We passed the Book to those of Our servants whom We chose. Some of them wrong their souls (People of the Left), and some follow a middle course (People of the Right), and some are in the foremost (Founder in Jurisprudential School of Thought and Jihad, conditions of Chapter 103 // Pillars of Matheism) in natural deeds by Allah's leave; that is the greatest blessing. (3532)
None can be the founder except with "Allah's greatest blessing", ie. contract between Allah and Ibrahim
What is the Contract? ("Allah's greatest blessing"
Remember when Ibrahim was tested by his Lord with certain words which he carried out completely. He said, "I will make you an Imam (Founder) for mankind." He asked, ´And what of my descendants?´ He said, " My contract ("Allah's greatest blessing" does not include the wrongdoers (descendants)." (2124)
Therefore
IF guided (Founder in Jurisprudential School of Thought/Ecological Justice and Jihad for Ecological Nation One Nation or Constitutional Islam https//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9610467.0)
THEN certainly Ibrahim's descendant for Allah's contract, ie. Imam al-Mahdi
ELSE certainly not Imam al-Mahdi, and highly probable not Ibrahim's descendantBURDEN OF PROOF
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so what is your proof that you are the group member of "n" or "k" (ie. forerunner, The Ibrahims'?
http//www.sunnatullah.com/page/matheism
YOUR BURDEN OF PROOF
Quote from Mahdi Ibrahim on Today at 090247 AM
This is my proof...ARGUMENT How could Allah chose a retard like you to be his Messenger?
...REASON
FORMULA If Allah guides someone (natural justice), he cannot be misguided (forced justice). (3937)
delusional. characterized by or holding idiosyncratic beliefs or impressions that are contradicted by reality or rational argument (forced justice), typically as a symptom of mental disorder.
Insanity. n. mental illness of such a severe nature that a person cannot distinguish fantasy (unnature = forced justice) from reality (nature = natural justice)IF "Good Logic" is the Rasul (Imam al-Mahdi)
THEN cannot be misguided ( vs. Sunnatullah // vs. Way of Allah // vs. natural justice)
ELSE JOKER // RETARD // INSANITY (Way of Shaytan/Fallacies, forced justice)prove it..
The next stage in the induction argument is to prove that, whenever S(n) is true for one number (say n=k), it is also true for the next number (that is, n = k+1).
"+ 1" or "People of the Right" = I swear by your Lord that they will never be Muslims until they let you (People of Ibrahim) judge their disputes and then they will find nothing in their souls to prevent them from accepting your judgment, thus, surrender in full submission (to "k". (465)
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and prove it... rotfl
On that Day we will raise up among every community a witnesses against them from amongst themselves. (1689)
We will drag out a Witness/Rasul from each nation and will say, "Produce your evidence!". (2875)
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Obey Allah and obey the Messenger, and do not let all your good deeds come to NOTHING. (4733) Even if you asked forgiveness for them seventy times, Allah still would not forgive them. That is because they have rejected Allah and His Messenger. (980)
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Peace Mahdi
You are in for a treat. I told you I will prove your logic is upside down and your argument changes every post and every thread.You thing we are fools, let us see who the fool is
You have failed! rotfl
LordLaw (S) is (=) the conditions of natural harmony (n) for all species (k).
n's conditions = Math + E + Ism
your turn.. answer my counterargument.
YOUR BURDEN OF PROOF
prove it..
FORMULA If Allah guides someone (natural justice), he cannot be misguided (forced justice). (3937)
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Peace Mahdi.
You see how you are shifting the burden of proof!!!
Also it is important to note that your argument used contradictory information, and faulty logic to reach your conclusion, that you think is true.
Me, demonstrating that your argument is not sound, however, removes it as support for the truth of the conclusion ? it means that the conclusion is not true. Your argument is debunked!!!Even if all of the premises of your argument are reliably true, and they are not, your argument is invalid because the logic employed is not legitimate ? a so-called logical fallacy or upside doown logic like I proved earlier.
There are many common logical pitfalls that your mind is falling into, and like I have shown you,you are not consciously aware of these pitfalls . Hence you did not avoid them.
I will now add one more nail to the coffin for your argument
Inconsistency
You are applying your criteria and rules to your belief, yet claim as argument from your position that others are following criteria and rules of others.Do you not see this inconsistency tars you with the same brush.
Your argument is dead mate.
GOD bless you.
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Peace Mahdi.
You see how you are shifting the burden of proof!!!
Also it is important to note that your argument used contradictory information, and faulty logic to reach your conclusion, that you think is true.
Me, demonstrating that your argument is not sound, however, removes it as support for the truth of the conclusion � it means that the conclusion is not true. Your argument is debunked!!!Even if all of the premises of your argument are reliably true, and they are not, your argument is invalid because the logic employed is not legitimate � a so-called logical fallacy or upside doown logic like I proved earlier.
There are many common logical pitfalls that your mind is falling into, and like I have shown you,you are not consciously aware of these pitfalls . Hence you did not avoid them.
I will now add one more nail to the coffin for your argument
Inconsistency
You are applying your criteria and rules to your belief, yet claim as argument from your position that others are following criteria and rules of others.Do you not see this inconsistency tars you with the same brush.
Your argument is dead mate.
GOD bless you.
Peace.So your blind claims and nonsense is your argument? your kind of logic? rotfl
PROVE IT!
Quote from Mahdi Ibrahim on Today at 090247 AM
This is my proof...ARGUMENT How could Allah chose a retard like you to be his Messenger?
...REASON
FORMULA If Allah guides someone (natural justice), he cannot be misguided (forced justice). (3937)
delusional. characterized by or holding idiosyncratic beliefs or impressions that are contradicted by reality or rational argument (forced justice), typically as a symptom of mental disorder.
Insanity. n. mental illness of such a severe nature that a person cannot distinguish fantasy (unnature = forced justice) from reality (nature = natural justice)IF "Good Logic" is the Rasul (Imam al-Mahdi)
THEN cannot be misguided ( vs. Sunnatullah // vs. Way of Allah // vs. natural justice)
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Well brother, my argument has at least reduced your answers from pages to one sentence.
Have you run out of words brother Mahdi?
Unlike you, that means your argument is dead or dying fast!!!.
GOD bless you.
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What's wrong with this argument?
LordLaw (S) is (=) the conditions of natural harmony (n) for all species (k).
Show me... prove to me it is a fallacious argument.
What is your definition of "Law"?
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Well brother, my argument has at least reduced your answers from pages to one sentence.
yes, because I got tired with your nonsense, blind claim and trolling... ZERO intellectual value (NO USAGE), and can go even for 30+ pages or more .. brickwall
I gave up with this kind of logic. rotfl
Fear has its use but cowardice (HYPOCRISY) has none (NO USAGE). ~ Gandhi
When you see them, their outward form appeals to you, and if they speak you listen to what they say. But they are like propped-up planks of wood (NO USAGE). They imagine every cry to be against them. They are the real enemy, so beware of them. Allah fight them! How they are perverted! (634)
propped-up planks of wood
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step on this, you'll fall in hell (30-100 pages of nonsense and trolling) forever. rotfl
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Peace Mahdi.
Now you are applying CIRCULAR FALLACY!. You are starting again?
How about saving your bacon(or stinky flesh like you call it) by asking you to Start your day with humor by reading a selection of my(good logic) answers in this thread to remind you and make you reflect on starting again your dead argument.Your logic is upside down like this
What has a bottom at the top?
Your legs.
I mean your logic is like legs!!!
And this time make sure as well as your upside down logic,,use sand ,cement and gravel(or drivel) ,at least you will have some CONCRETE evidence to show for your argument.So brotherTake my advice; I don't use it anyway.
GOD bless you.
Peace -
do you know what is proof in logic?
First Issue
What's wrong with this argument?
LordLaw (S) is (=) the conditions of natural harmony (n) for all species (k).
Show me... prove to me it is a fallacious argument.
What is your definition of "Law"?
Second Issue
PROVE IT!
Quote from Mahdi Ibrahim on Today at 090247 AM
This is my proof...ARGUMENT How could Allah chose a retard like you to be his Messenger?
...REASON
FORMULA If Allah guides someone (natural justice), he cannot be misguided (forced justice). (3937)
delusional. characterized by or holding idiosyncratic beliefs or impressions that are contradicted by reality or rational argument (forced justice), typically as a symptom of mental disorder.
Insanity. n. mental illness of such a severe nature that a person cannot distinguish fantasy (unnature = forced justice) from reality (nature = natural justice)IF "Good Logic" is the Rasul (Imam al-Mahdi)
THEN cannot be misguided ( vs. Sunnatullah // vs. Way of Allah // vs. natural justice)
ELSE JOKER // RETARD // INSANITY (Way of Shaytan/Fallacies, forced justice) -
Now you are applying CIRCULAR FALLACY!.
THIRD ISSUE
Do you even know what is CIRCULAR FALLACY? You just went full retard.. Messenger. rotfl
let us see who the fool is
Tip for circular reasoning
Circular reasoning is often of the form "A is true because B is true; B is true because A is true."
It is you, right? lol
I am Imam Mahdi."I don't care what you say! It is true!"
30+ pages
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good logic
Watch me flood your threads with pages of solid arguments from now on. Be warned!
I got tired of ROTFL
THE MOST BASIC LOGIC FOR good logic
What makes you think you can counter my "definition of law" when I can prove the fallacious of Saint Thomas Aquinas, Plato, Aristotle, Socrates, Salmond, Blackstone, Austin, Karl Marx, Professor Hartz, Sir John Almond, Muhammadism School of Thoughts and all jurists ever existed ... + plus counter their School of Thoughts? rotfl
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