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Who can prove I'm not Imam al-Mahdi? =;>

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    Mahdi_Ibrahim
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    Some of them asked, ?Why do you give advice to people who Allah will destroy or punish with a severe suffering?? They answered, In order to be free from blame before your LordLaw (of Nature).... (7164)

    Cause of WARS

    https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivNVrlLVV-M

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    accordingly, competition and monopoly..

    the propaganda for HUMAN FARMING.

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    They all denied the MESSENGERS, so they deserved My punishment/Hell. (3814)

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      good_logic
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      Hallelujah brother!
      We agree on the cause of wars.
      Now as long as you mean" by the better argument" when you say "FIGHT THEM..."

      Oh and here is one last quote (But no fancy pictures)

      I would never fight for my beliefs because I might be wrong.
      GOD bless you.
      Peace.

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        Mahdi_Ibrahim
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        I would never fight for my beliefs because I might be wrong.

        There is no beLIEf in NATURE... just facts.

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          Mahdi_Ibrahim
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          We agree on the cause of wars.
          Now as long as you mean" by the better argument" when you say "FIGHT THEM..."

          https//scontent.fkul7-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/23032447_2009212382628676_7703373043958279360_n.jpg?_nc_cat=111&_nc_ht=scontent.fkul7-1.fna&oh=25bf2a812d801b0241b01d0a95e2734a&oe=5CFA203A

          There would be no game of Chess if the Pawns refused to play...

          By no means, do not obey them! (6819)

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            Mahdi_Ibrahim
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            We're all being played...

            Pharoah fooled his people, they obeyed him. They were truly rebellious people (kafir). (4354) Obey them, be muSHRIK. (6121)

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              good_logic
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              Peace Mahdi .
              You say there are no beliefs just facts.
              You mean you do not believe your facts?
              GOD bless you.
              Peace.

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                Mahdi_Ibrahim
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                  Mahdi_Ibrahim
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                  You say there are no beliefs just facts.
                  You mean you do not believe your facts?

                  Fact is a Fact.

                  A fact is a thing that is known to be consistent with objective reality and can be proven to be true with evidence.

                  I don't have a belief/opinion, and I don't need one... else, I'm deleting all beliefs/doctrines/dogmas.

                  Belief/opinion is for religious people etc... it is SHIRK.

                  Say, "This is my "Islam". "Islam" is with proofs and evidences! I, as well as those who follow me, call you towards Allah / Fact / Nature / Mathematical Pattern / ENERGY. He is the most High/Truth! I would never commit the sin of shirk (belief). (1210

                  They are only following their guess (belief), and they only tell lies (shaytan). (1066)

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                    Mahdi_Ibrahim
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                    Do not follow blindly what you do not know to be true ears, eyes, and heart, you will be questioned about all these. (1736)

                    BELIEF = FEAR

                    https//image.spreadshirtmedia.com/image-server/v1/mp/designs/12691238,width=178,height=178,version=1393424476/false-evidence-appearing-real-5bfear5d.png

                    SAY He, ENERGY, is ONE (FACT). (1121)

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                      Mahdi_Ibrahim
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                      NO BELIEF

                      The best of all provision is self-consciousness/FACT. (2197)

                      The pure natural believers are only those who have had iman in Allah/ENERGY/MATHEMATICAL PATTERN and His Messenger/NATURAL PERSON/NATURAL LAW and then have had no doubt/FACT (vs. self-deception). (4915)

                      Rumi — 'I searched for God and found only myself. I searched for myself and found only God.'

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                        good_logic
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                        Peace Mahdi.
                        If you do not believe your facts or do not believe in your facts, then your facts must be wrong.
                        GOD bless you.
                        Peace.

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                          Mahdi_Ibrahim
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                          Here, take your time to understand this.. .

                          Fact is a Fact.

                          A fact is a thing that is known to be consistent with objective reality and can be proven to be true with evidence.

                          ...

                          Belief/opinion is for religious people etc... it is SHIRK.

                          Say, "This is my "Islam". "Islam" is with proofs and evidences! I, as well as those who follow me, call you towards Allah / Fact / Nature / Mathematical Pattern / ENERGY. He is the most High/Truth! I would never commit the sin of shirk (belief, ie. vs. proofs and evidences). (1210

                          They are only following their guess (belief, "the feeling&quot, and they only tell lies (shaytan). (1066)

                          No shirk = with proofs and evidences
                          Shirk = without proofs and evidences

                          belief, noun

                          1. an acceptance that something exists or is true, especially one without proof.

                          https//en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/belief

                          belief, noun

                          the feeling of being certain that something exists or is true

                          https//dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/belief

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                            good_logic
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                            Peace Mahdi.
                            If someone told me a fact and I have proof that it is true ,then I say to them

                            I believe you.

                            This belief has evidence.
                            GOD bless you.
                            Peace.

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                              Mahdi_Ibrahim
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                              Out of context/topic/issue/established meaning and I'm not to argue 30 pages for this issue and wasting my time with your ad nauseam.

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                                good_logic
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                                I was saying if belief is backed up by evidence, then what is wrong with it?

                                I think you meam blind faith?
                                GOD bless.
                                Peace.

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                                  Mahdi_Ibrahim
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                                  How does your argument relate to this issue?

                                  Say, "This is my "Islam". "Islam" is with proofs and evidences! I, as well as those who follow me, call you towards Allah / Fact / Nature / Mathematical Pattern / ENERGY. He is the most High/Truth! I would never commit the sin of shirk (belief, ie. vs. proofs and evidences). (1210

                                  They are only following their guess (belief, "the feeling&quot, and they only tell lies (shaytan). (1066)

                                  No shirk = with proofs and evidences
                                  Shirk = without proofs and evidences

                                  What is the merit of your argument for the above context?

                                  Without purpose?

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                                    good_logic
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                                    My argument is that belief with evidence does not fit in your translation..
                                    Try "blind faith", it is a better alternative.
                                    GOD bless you.
                                    Peace.

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                                      Mahdi_Ibrahim
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                                      No issue, and I have no concern where it does not relate to the above verses, there is no significance in your argument.. belief still "They are only following their guess (belief, "the feeling&quot, and they only tell lies (shaytan). (1066)"

                                      If someone told me a fact and I have proof that it is true ,then I say to them

                                      I believe you.

                                      It is a fact on my part ("someone told me a fact and I have proof that it is true" - have iman / direct evidence)

                                      Believe on your part ("I believe you / assumptions / without proofs and evidences" - no iman / hearsay evidence)

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                                      Do you do not see how Allah makes a metaphor of a good word a good tree whose roots are firm and whose branches are in heaven? It bears fruit regularly by its Lord´s permission. Allah makes metaphors for people so that hopefully they will pay heed. It bears fruit regularly by its Lord´s permission. Allah makes metaphors for people so that hopefully they will pay heed.

                                      The metaphor of a corrupt word is that of a rotten tree, uprooted on the surface of the earth. It(s argument) has no staying-power.

                                      Allah makes those who have iman firm with the Firm Word in the life of this world and the Next World. But Allah misguides the wrongdoers (with corrupt word/argument). Allah does whatever He wills. (1424-27)

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                                        TellMeTheTruth
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                                        Salam!

                                        I can prove that you are not Imam al Mahdi.

                                        May Allah bless and guide us all!

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                                          Mahdi_Ibrahim
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                                          Please do so..

                                          do your best, ALL MANKIND AND JINN, ALL UNIVERSE! rotfl

                                          Argument Law is the conditions of natural harmony for all species.

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                                          Allah would never destroy human habitation (with climate change / the sixth mass extinctions / 175 without FIRST SENDING A RASUL (رَسُولًا) to its centre, reciting our Signs/Tawba to them. (2859)

                                          https//i.ytimg.com/vi/4gjC2LCc00I/maxresdefault.jpg

                                          https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ku_UC2gXj-s

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