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Why did God make most people's destiny Hell

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    Mahdi_Ibrahim
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    accordingly. ...

    We said, "Go down from here as enemies to each other!" (236)

    Fighting is made mandatory for you, but you dislike it. You may not like something which, in fact, is for your good and something that you may love, in fact, may be evil. God knows, but you do not know. (2216)

    You who have iman! do not take any outside yourselves as intimates. They will do anything to harm you. They love what causes you distress. Hatred has appeared out of their mouths, but what their breasts hide is far worse. We have made the Signs clear to you if you use your intellect. (311

    "No one can terrorize a whole nation, unless we are all his accomplices." - Edward R. Murrow

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      imrankhawaja
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      Logically,if the story is true, you should win your case brother Imran.
      And If the devil takes up your case ,then all the lawyers will side with him as well.(Lawyers should end up with the devil in the hereafter they charge too much!) You cannot loose.

      Unless the devil backs off because-Akhafu Allah Rabba Al Alameen- Frightened of GOD?
      Or you got the story of Qoran completely wrong and you have no case. Case dismissed ?
      GOD bless you.
      Peace.

      its same like your in the presence of king and saying him to trial the king.
      we know the result anyway.
      king will get us killed with a package of torture.

      the king is human his torture will b humanly. ( imperfect torture) one time
      the God is god his torture will be Godly ( perfect torture). on a repeating loop.

      he also know where he hit us so that we can feel pain he keep doing it since the dawn of humankind.

      the things we LOVE he takes it away.
      the things we HATE he bring those things infront of us.

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        Mahdi_Ibrahim
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        It is NOT LOVE

        IF IT KILLS our planet and all life on it. >D

        Therefore Insanity.

        Allah has given you love of iman/common sense and made it pleasing to your hearts, and has made kufr, deviance and disobedience (to the Sunnatullah, ie. insanity) hateful to you. People such as these are rightly guided. (497)

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          imrankhawaja
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          suddenly you're complaining about free will ...

          then why not hear and obey the Sunnatullah? >D

          wrong...

          He taught Adam the names/validity of all things. (231)

          and then..

          • When your Lord took out all their descendants from the loins of the children of Adam and made them testify against themselves "Am I not your LordLaw?" they said, "We testify that indeed You are! " Lest you say on the Day of Rising, "We knew nothing of this." (7172)

          Allah does not harm mankind in any way, but men do harm themselves. (10.44)

          incase of your God

          energised computer SIRI
          taught adam all things .

          but the one who was operating SIRI who was he? energy is not at fault its lifeless and emotionless.

          energy will do and act according to the law of creator.

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            Mahdi_Ibrahim
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            Did Allah made everything known to you before signing The Contract?

            thats how HONESTY works

            if i know i have faulty mobile/laptop/etc.
            i will not sale it, only if i tell the fault to the person then i can sale it.
            if i sale it and not tell the fault of mobile its mean i tricked the buyer.( haram earning)

            When your Lord took out all their descendants from the loins of the children of Adam and made them testify against themselves "Am I not your LordLaw?" they said, "We testify that indeed You are! " Lest you say on the Day of Rising, "We knew nothing of this." (7172)

            suddenly you're complaining about free will (is faulty mobile/laptop/etc)... <-- THE BUYER

            then why not hear and obey the Sunnatullah? >D

            But you cannot will, unless Allah wills. (7630)

            (Free will is an illusion. People always choose the perceived path of greatest pleasure.)

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              imrankhawaja
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              Message for the OP
              its better to make the ids on girls name rather than boys lol.
              btw i give ur thread a light asking all those questions whats required for ur thread.

              its not my questions although i keep thinking about all those questions imposed by athiests and its like unsolves physics problems. we have unsolved religious problems. its matter of philosplhy becoz me tou any anybody/ anybook is just a theory.

              universal God is fair
              universal true God is love
              universal true God give us surprise what will turn our sadness into happiness.

              and herez the thing what making a confusion in universal God vs god of people?
              God is just he will punish those who did bad things with people. if he didnt do it how come a victim of rape will feel satisfied in paradise?

              loop is coming back to God again why he created a MESS(human) at first place?
              controllers asked it before.
              he knows what we dunt know. (answer so far)

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                Mahdi_Ibrahim
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                Then why not the syahadat?

                • No GOD

                • Only ENERGY

                Because

                He who created the seven heavens in layers. You will not find any flaw in the creation/Energy of the All-Merciful. Look again — do you see any gaps? (673)

                So what went wrong? rotfl

                https//ecdn.teacherspayteachers.com/thumbitem/What-is-CONFLICT-in-literature--2515143-1500873690/original-2515143-4.jpg

                Man vs. Techonology
                Man vs. Aliens
                Man vs. ...
                Man vs. ...

                If the truth were to follow their whims and desires (FREE WILL), the heavens and the earth and everyone in them would have been brought to ruin. No indeed! We have given them their Reminder, but they have turned away from it. (2371)

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                  imrankhawaja
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                  Then why not the syahadat?

                  • No GOD

                  • Only ENERGY

                  Because

                  He who created the seven heavens in layers. You will not find any flaw in the creation of the All-Merciful. Look again — do you see any gaps? (673)

                  So what went wrong? rotfl

                  is it possible for energy to punish ?

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                    imrankhawaja
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                    btw the most relaxed chilled and lucky people are ? athiests ?
                    and those who are catagorised as imam mehdi type.

                    they have no fear at all. becoz they dunt beleive in it.

                    their gods are easy to tackle and handle.
                    in ancient times people give lamb to God
                    some stupids give sacrifices to girls thinking God wanted it.

                    athiests are most successful people happy people in this world.
                    most of the scientists are athiests.

                    i dun know about hereafter but atleast in this life they are chilling.
                    and beleivers are at risky depresse stage. i cant say they are chilling.

                    so equation of quran for beleivers ( happy life & happy hereafter)

                    only athiests filling the first part of equation hence most probabaly they are actual muslims.
                    confusing sometimes

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                      Mahdi_Ibrahim
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                      Try jump from a tall building, and you will immediately see the Energy punish you. rotfl

                      • what is the answer for my previous questions / issues? simply ignore?
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                        imrankhawaja
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                        Try jump from the tall building, and you will immediately see the Energy punish you. rotfl

                        thats gravity bro elektro lol

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                          Mahdi_Ibrahim
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                          So it is Energy.... no?

                          Let's just stay on this TOPIC.

                          offtopic

                          What is the answer to my previous question?

                          Did Allah made everything known to you before signing The Contract?

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                            imrankhawaja
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                            • what is the answer for my previous questions / issues? simply ignore?

                            which one ?

                            btw i have same position like u have i am also the one who is questioning in this thread as u can see so i dunt think so i ll help u lol may b ? good logic ? will read and reply to you rotfl

                            i m jk ask what u wana ask.

                            EDIT ok i just saw ur post

                            i dunt remember any contract bro and if i offers such a risky painful contract i will side with mountains and trees and happily refused it lol yeah

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                              Mahdi_Ibrahim
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                              which one ?

                              btw i have same position like u have i am also the one who is questioning in this thread as u can see so i dunt think so i ll help u lol may b � good logic � will read and reply to you rotfl

                              i m jk ask what u wana ask.

                              no answer?

                              Question

                              Did Allah made everything known to you before signing The Contract?

                              Your argument

                              thats how HONESTY works

                              if i know i have faulty mobile/laptop/etc.
                              i will not sale it, only if i tell the fault to the person then i can sale it.
                              if i sale it and not tell the fault of mobile its mean i tricked the buyer.( haram earning)

                              suddenly you're complaining about free will (is faulty mobile/laptop/etc)... <-- THE BUYER

                              but you said that is HONESTY...

                              so what is the answer?

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                                imrankhawaja
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                                EDIT ok i just saw ur post

                                i dunt remember any contract bro and if i offers such a risky painful contract i will side with mountains and trees and happily refused it lol yeah

                                here u go my answer

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                                  Mahdi_Ibrahim
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                                  That is FREE WILL, why complaining?

                                  and Allah already addressed that issue..

                                  When your Lord took out all their descendants from the loins of the children of Adam and made them testify against themselves "Am I not your LordLaw?" they said, "We testify that indeed You are! " Lest you say on the Day of Rising, "We knew nothing of this." (7172)

                                  So did Allah made known the terms and conditions before signing the Contract?

                                  Did He send the Messengers to remind you about the terms and conditions of the Contract?

                                  Yes? No?

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                                    imrankhawaja
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                                    So did Allah made known the terms and conditions before signing the Contract?

                                    Did He send the Messengers to remind you about the terms and conditions of the Contract?

                                    1 NO
                                    2 NO

                                    also i dunt know about this one

                                    3372 We have offered the trust to the heavens and the earth, and the mountains, but they refused to bear it, and were fearful of it. But man accepted it; he was transgressing, ignorant.

                                    if its true then its mean we being FOOLED or we been FRAMED ?
                                    why the **** mountains and trees didnt tell us not to accept it .

                                    its mean human being is the most stupid/ignorant creation of heavens and earth. he get tricked by creator .

                                    before human God was looking everywhere giving offer to everyone they said we are not stupid to accept that offer then God made the stupidiest ever thing wjat we know as humanbeing and he accepted it yay

                                    now get ready son for the punishment of fire hahahaha
                                    oooh hell what i sleected ? thats our situation

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                                      Mahdi_Ibrahim
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                                      1 NO
                                      2 NO

                                      There is NO HONESTY in your answer, only hypocrisy...

                                      Can hypocrisy win your case? rotfl

                                      i wana file a case in universal court against God hahaha

                                      for buying "FAULTY PRODUCT" -> "FREE WILL"

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                                        imrankhawaja
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                                        There is NO HONESTY in your answer, only hypocrisy...

                                        Can hypocrisy win your case? rotfl

                                        oh sorry i met one messenger named as imam mehdi i m sorry i forget to mention.
                                        its not hypocrisy trust me. u can say short term memories issues.

                                        but apart from
                                        you i never met any messenger. the last one was about 400 yrs ago guru nanak
                                        and second last one was 1400 yrs ago.

                                        and i m only 35

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                                          Mahdi_Ibrahim
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                                          Change of topic? rotfl

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