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Why did God make most people's destiny Hell

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    Cerberus
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    Our "contract" is reason. We have it. It part of us. We are a mind and an "intelligent" body. An intelligent body is intelligent as far as going after pleasure and avoiding pain, it is the life of the beasts. Very predictable and foreseeable.

    Can you reject your reason ? Not really, you can ignore it though. You can get drunk. But it's still there. even if you reject it it may still send you signals that what you're doing is not truly meaningful, hence why you may get depressed and have a sense of being lost. But without reason, you can live the life of a beast and be in harmony with it, because that's what the beasts of the wild are supposed to do. They don't have what you have.

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      Mahdi_Ibrahim
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      Can you reject your reason ?

      ie. The Sunnatullah / LordLaw of Nature

      Galileo Galilei — 'Mathematics is the language in which God has written the universe'

      Obey Nature
      It's the LordLaw.

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        imrankhawaja
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        Allan send no youtube videos or USB Drive, he sent His Messengers, with Books of Allah. rotfl

        its only Allah who can send videos, youtube, books, messengers etc

        you are very less familiar with your God energy.

        comin back to topic if u r a real messenger u can easily access to God supercomputer where u can see me and all other humanity is signing a contract ?

        if u cant find it ask help from gabi hez much powerful timetravellor he can provide u what u are looking ?

        now its your test as messenger ?
        otherwise i will end beleiving u as imposter

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          Mahdi_Ibrahim
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          How does that anwer this issue? You're so DESPERATE! rotfl

          What is your answer?

          So if you agree the Quran from Messenger, THEN

          Do you agree Allah has reminded you on the terms and conditions of the Contract?

          Your argument

          thats how HONESTY works

          if i know i have faulty mobile/laptop/etc.
          i will not sale it, only if i tell the fault to the person then i can sale it.
          if i sale it and not tell the fault of mobile its mean i tricked the buyer.( haram earning)

          suddenly you're complaining about free will (is faulty mobile/laptop/etc)... <-- THE BUYER

          That's the point.. IF YOU REJECT THE MESSENGER (His Books)

          THEN why bother about discover the TRUTH, about how you enter into the Contract?

          Step 1. Accept His Messengers / Books
          Step 2. Find out how you enter into Contract

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            imrankhawaja
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            i m lucky yet unlucky.

            i have a messnger present with me and he will get a video for me.
            unlucky in case hez imposter.

            you are copy pasting my post what did i say what is not according to 3372?
            did human already knew what hez going to accept?
            if he knew already then why he was ignorant ? as per God

            look reply 53 too

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              Mahdi_Ibrahim
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              Still yet you cannot answer this simple question... why complaining when you being a hypocrite? rotfl

              So if you agree the Quran from Messenger, THEN

              Do you agree Allah has reminded you on the terms and conditions of the Contract?

              They swear to falsehood and do so knowingly. (5814)

              Can hypocrisy win your case? rotfl

              i wana file a case in universal court against God hahaha

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                imrankhawaja
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                They don't have what you have.

                TRUE
                they dnt have any risky factors going in their life.

                and we have what only insane can wish ?accountabilty?

                we are accountable for what we eat ( need of stomach) let say we steal for eat and our ? self ? will be answerable and punished ?

                thats difference between humana d beast hes lucky and we are unlucky teh day we accept the ?offer?

                brother u used word intelligent ? intelligence? according to creator is our stupidity/ignorance/transgression.

                its appears hez making fun of us when we accepted that ?offer?.

                thats why he said you( humanity) is f****d now lol.

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                  jkhan
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                  Still yet you cannot answer this simple question... why complaining when you being a hypocrite? rotfl

                  Dear Sara...
                  i am afraid your topic is going nowhere.... and being spoiled in my understanding...
                  Two hypocrites are floating in the sky without gravity pulling them down rotfl to overwhelm the supremacy in useless / baseless argument.... &

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                    Mahdi_Ibrahim
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                    if he knew already then why he was ignorant ? as per God

                    Yes. Why?

                    Everything in NATURE follow the rules, THE CONTRACT

                    ie. The LordLaw of Nature (Sunnatullah / Terms and Conditions of Contract)

                    Even your own body, organs, cells, molecules, DNA etc hear and obey THE CONTRACT...

                    So why? and yet COMPLAINING ABOUT "FREE WILL" (DEFAULT PRODUCT)

                    ARROGANT? Retard? rotfl

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                      good_logic
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                      Peace Mahdi.

                      How do we know for sure what our destiny is?

                      If we are destined for hell, how do we make the correction to avoid it?
                      GOD bless you.
                      Peace.

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                        Mahdi_Ibrahim
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                        How do we know for sure what our destiny is?

                        Simple. CONSEQUENCE is NO COINCIDENCE.

                        Therefore HELL.

                        • Natural Cause / Way of Life = Natural Effect (Paradise)

                        • Unnatural Cause / Way of Life = Unnatural Effect (Hell)

                        • Mixed Cause / Way of Life = Unnatural Effect (Hell)

                        You will never encounter an alternative for sunnatullah. You will never find an alteration in the sunnatullah! (3543)

                        • The SUNNATULLAH ALONE MUSLIM *
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                          Cerberus
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                          thats difference between humana d beast hes lucky and we are unlucky teh day we accept the ?offer?

                          brother u used word intelligent ? intelligence? according to creator is our stupidity/ignorance/transgression.

                          its appears hez making fun of us when we accepted that ?offer?.

                          thats why he said you( humanity) is f****d now lol.

                          "Intelligence" as in intelligent to go after pleasure and avoid pain instinctively. And from the eye of Reason, It is indeed stupidity. (or rather primitive)

                          You don't read the whole message you just pick what affirms your lack of understanding. It's very problematic.

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                            imrankhawaja
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                            Dear Sara...
                            i am afraid your topic is going nowhere.... and being spoiled in my understanding...
                            Two hypocrites are floating in the sky without gravity pulling them down rotfl to overwhelm the supremacy in useless / baseless argument.... &

                            the marks of punches from me is still on your face. thats y its natural u want more insults from me just let me know when u satisfied the amount of insult u need in your life.

                            aww i have my sympathies with u. u have been beaten badly in everywhere.

                            see what i said to ur sister sarah the questions are from the side of nonbelievers of quran like athiest ? so basiaclly this thread full of questions its another matter if u wan give answers but i have more good things for you to learn as i see ur level of understanding is less than 6th grade kid so better learn basic maths first. dnt waste ur time in debates of intelligent people. lol

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                              imrankhawaja
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                              "Intelligence" as in intelligent to go after pleasure and avoid pain instinctively. And from the eye of Reason, It is indeed stupidity. (or rather primitive)

                              You don't read the whole message you just pick what affirms your lack of understanding. It's very problematic.

                              brother lem me clear my side first. before u guys start thinking i m asking questions its from the one who dunt believe in creator. not my personal questions.

                              lets make it easy you are saying we are gifted with intelligence?
                              i m saying this intelligence is ignorance according to author of quran ?

                              start from here

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                                Mahdi_Ibrahim
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                                That's how who should answer it... agree? rotfl

                                i wana file a case in universal court against God hahaha

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                                  Cerberus
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                                  No I said we have REASON and we have a Body. But our body has its own primitive way of thinking, hence why I called it "intelligence", intelligent as far as going after pleasure and avoiding pain. But let's call it instinct, It's the way animals think and live their life. And they do so with harmony because they don't have Reason.

                                  Instinct to Reason is primitive, so as not to say stupid. It lacks any sort of principles. It's stuck with the superficial aspect of things. Reason, however, goes above and beyond things.

                                  Reason is what makes us "gifted" if you want to say. You can't reject it but you can ignore it. Even if you do so you may still get a sense that your life is meaningless.

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                                    kaltun
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                                    Slm imrankhawaja,

                                    i m saying this intelligence is ignorance according to author of quran

                                    who is the author of the Quran according to you ??

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                                      imrankhawaja
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                                      That's how who should answer it... agree? rotfl

                                      its a video clip of movie OH MY GOD rotfl

                                      so i just shared that as well in which he file a case against God when insurance compny refuse to give the insurance due to God factor of earthquake?

                                      look its difficult to see when i ask but i feel instead of asking i ll give answers now including my own questions but i wanted you guys get train of these questions incase someone asks from you. dun worry take one more day of u want i will
                                      load more questions and if u giys failed i will tey give answers.

                                      you can see the emoji in the ending statement.

                                      very few people in life can understand what i m on about so i m not wondering what u r thinking. chill

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                                        kaltun
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                                        Slm Mahdi Ibrahim,

                                        (Free will is an illusion. People always choose the perceived path of greatest pleasure.)

                                        its still free will, cause you may choose , and if you choose easy path ...it still free will

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                                          jkhan
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                                          the marks of punches from me is still on your face. thats y its natural u want more insults from me just let me know when u satisfied the amount of insult u need in your life.

                                          aww i have my sympathies with u. u have been beaten badly in everywhere.

                                          see what i said to ur sister sarah the questions are from the side of nonbelievers of quran like athiest ? so basiaclly this thread full of questions its another matter if u wan give answers but i have more good things for you to learn as i see ur level of understanding is less than 6th grade kid so better learn basic maths first. dnt waste ur time in debates of intelligent people. lol

                                          Insults of Hypocrites won?t hurt us neither imposters?if it hurts I won?t be here? What hurts me is only when a believer misunderstands me? Believers won?t misunderstand another for long? if each are believers?
                                          Why did God make most people's destiny Hell

                                          This is the question and concern of Sarah? simple answer is God knows the unseen and future? Thus He knows the destiny of us? that?s why God predicted the destiny of most to be in Hell even before the most of the human being is yet to be born?.
                                          If you anyone has doubt in my above response.. take the example of Prophet Isa? God chose Mary to give the birth of Isa? Destiny is well known.. Isa cannot go wrong?. Is must end up as a believer? so knowingly chosen?Destiny is not made by God for most people to deserved the agony? but destiny was in the hands of people who chose to live the life in their own ego? Still God gave a chance? But God knew the soul even before placed on physical body.. that?s so simple?.
                                          That?s what a sixth grade would respond you?. Why you elevated me to 6th grade? why not first grade or illiterate? lol?. You guys are destined to be in this way?. ?f******??? such wordings of IK are more proof of his nature / behavior..? have fun in this forum if it is meant for fun and supremacy..? you can have supremacy? for sure? keep it up?. I think such people are intentionally here to divert people from right path?. I think all those who support him may be his own account? he is the one he has multiple accounts?.. Moderators must be knowing this? ?
                                          Don?t worry this 6th grade will be there to correct the seniors?
                                          laugh

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