Has anyone on here ever met another quran only believer in real life
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Salam Sarah!
What do you mean by 'Quran Only Believer'?
Peace!
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Yes. I have met people from several countries, including the UK. There have also been small meetups and conferences (London and South Africa). There is almost certainly many more local meetups we don't know about.
It usually begins by getting to know them online, via here or FB etc then eventually a in person meetup.
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I met my husband on Muslima.com, we both reject hadiths but we do read previous scriptures.
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Peace!
Nope.
The Qur'an alone movement reminds me of Evangelists who are just skipping the old testament. I also read the previous scriptures, i even accept some Hadith of the Lore as authentic. But its like only 1%.
You dont even need a scripture or religion to get closer to GOD.
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Peace!
Nope.
The Qur'an alone movement reminds me of Evangelists who are just skipping the old testament. I also read the previous scriptures, i even accept some Hadith of the Lore as authentic. But its like only 1%.
You dont even need a scripture or religion to get closer to GOD.
Peace
I don't know about previous scriptures but the Qur'an is fully detailed so believing in hadith on top of the already fully detailed scripture (where you do not need extra religious laws since all the laws are already in the Qur'an) would indicate that a person doesn't believe God when He says it is fully detailed. Even if a hadith doesn't contradict the Qur'an, God never authorised hadith as a religious teaching we should follow/ believe in.
If we already know the Qur'an, I doubt we are going to be saved from Hell if we do not make it a part of our lives...how are you going to be 'close' to God if you don't even read his message? It's a bit like ignoring the text messages from someone you claim to be a best friend.
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First step is to search GOD within. Not through scriptures. Thats why you have all the different intepretations. But still, yes Qur'an is very important and even when ALLAH says that Qur'an is detailed, he doesnt forbid to read other scriptures. Im only telling that you wont go to Hell for only not knowing what there is in the Qur'an. There are also good people in other faiths who base their faith on other scriptures. The Lore of Muhammad is not only about the law and i base the law entirely on the Qur'an.
Peace, Sister.
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Yes. I have met people from several countries, including the UK. There have also been small meetups and conferences (London and South Africa). There is almost certainly many more local meetups we don't know about.
It usually begins by getting to know them online, via here or FB etc then eventually a in person meetup.
You're lucky to have had such experiences Wakas. How do you trust people you meet online though? I mean, they could be ANYONE...
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First step is to search GOD within. Not through scriptures. Thats why you have all the different intepretations. But still, yes Qur'an is very important and even when ALLAH says that Qur'an is detailed, he doesnt forbid to read other scriptures. Im only telling that you wont go to Hell for only not knowing what there is in the Qur'an. There are also good people in other faiths who base their faith on other scriptures.
Peace, Sister.
You misunderstood me. We can read other scriptures but since they've been altered by man, we cannot follow them (from my understanding). We can only follow the Qur'an since t's the only scripture that has not been altered. If you were to follow everything or some things in the Bible for instance, you wouldn't know if verse x or y is an altered or unaltered part of the Bible. Then you'd be questioned by God about this. However, reading the Bible as general knowledge is fine.
I agree, there are also good people from other faiths. But a lot of them have not understood that the Qur'an is the last and final revelation and that their books have been tampered with...if I decided for example that i'm going to be a good Christian from tomorrow onwards and forget the Qur'an or not follow it and follow the Bible instead, that would make me a rejector of God's final revelation. It's different from someone who's never really understood the message of the Qur'an and never read it before in their life.
'Or have they not looked at the realm of the heavens and the earth and all things which God has created, and that perhaps their time may be drawing near? Which hadith after this (Quran) do they believe in?' 7185
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I met my husband on Muslima.com, we both reject hadiths but we do read previous scriptures.
You're lucky, hope your marriage is blessed sister.
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Yes. If you read everything on the basis of the Qur'an its obvious whats altered and which part of the Lore is authentic or unauthentic. But still, i dont like Muslims who are demonizing other scriptures and the Lore of Muhammad. I simply dont like where the Qur'an alone movement is going.
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Yes. If you read everything on the basis of the Qur'an its obvious whats altered and which part of the Lore is authentic or unauthentic. But still, i dont like Muslims who are demonizing other scriptures and the Lore of Muhammad. I simply dont like where the Qur'an alone movement is going.
The previous scriptures have been altered. Do you not agree? There's good and bad in them...something that's been tampered with by man cannot be 100% good.
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Yes of course. I have met a few in London, I have been to Speakers Corner, and met a couple. I have been invited to a London meet up next weekend. If you are in London you are welcome to join.
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Peace
If yes, how...
If no, why didn't it happen? Did you ever reach out? Do you find it hard to trust someone online?I've met many muslims (without the capital M) throughout my life.
They came from many identities, cultural background, yet their wise, serene and caring feeling just radiate away.Some examples
- A Christian orthodox priest who I met on the train through Carphatians mountain who makes me realize the real meanings of the word muslim.
- A Jewish priest who I met on a plane which reveal the ultimate reason why there is only one God thus what God really is.
- A budhist monk in Thailand which reveal the meaning of enlightenment.
- A floor cleaner in Istanbul who teached me the meaning of being patience.
And many many others..
I agree, there are also good people from other faiths. But a lot of them have not understood that the Qur'an is the last and final revelation and that their books have been tampered with...if I decided for example that i'm going to be a good Christian from tomorrow onwards and forget the Qur'an or not follow it and follow the Bible instead, that would make me a rejector of God's final revelation. It's different from someone who's never really understood the message of the Qur'an and never read it before in their life.
You definitely have a lot to learn in life...
But still, i dont like Muslims who are demonizing other scriptures and the Lore of Muhammad. I simply dont like where the Qur'an alone movement is going.
The "Quran Alone movement" is heading towards a cult, sect with Quran as it's idol.
It's obvious given the cultural background of the member were also coming from another sectarian culture.
The mindset is the same only the dressing is different.They see that by demonizing other scriptures (and also other tradition / identities / religion) will ensure the superiority of their idol (in this case a scripture) thus ensuring the superiority of their cult / sect / religion / identity as the one and only truest cult / sect / religion / identity.
Only very few realize that they also need to change the mindset.
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Peace Jafar..
So ,if one values GOD Alone and loves GOD the most, they are idolising GOD? Or is it not a question of GOD Alone deserves the utmost love?
Similarly when you say , quote
The "Quran Alone movement" is heading towards a cult, sect with Quran as it's idol...Your statement is general ,hence wrong. You could have said "...Some Qoran alone movements..."
Surely if one values GOD they should also value His words-Qoran- if they have proof Qoran is the word of GOD, unless someone else has proof Qoran is man s words to counter theirs!!!!
So following anything is a sect. There should be only one sect-GOD Alone sect- uniting on being in one mindset with GOD s system of the straight path and justice/freedom for all.
GOD bless you.
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So ,if one values GOD Alone and loves GOD the most, they are idolising GOD? Or is it not a question of GOD Alone deserves the utmost love?
If you values God, you will value all things..
If you loves GOD, you will love everyone and everything...Again.. it come back to one definition of what is God?
Thus "God Alone" is nonsensical in a way... given God is All and more..Similarly when you say , quote
The "Quran Alone movement" is heading towards a cult, sect with Quran as it's idol...
Your statement is general ,hence wrong. You could have said "...Some Qoran alone movements..."It depends on one definition of "Quran Alone Movement".
If he/she views that- Something is true (or false) just because the Quran said so..
- There is no truth outside of Quran and/or Quran is nothing but only truth
Then yes.. he/she is idolizing the book titled Quran..
Surely if one values GOD they should also value His words-Qoran- if they have proof Qoran is the word of GOD, unless someone else has proof Qoran is man s words to counter theirs!!!!
The above is a very good example of how "Quran Idolizing" mindset works..
Quran = God, God = Quran.Similar to
Jesus = God, God = Jesus
Marduk Statue = God, God = Marduk Statue
and so on and so on..All books are written by human for human.
All statue are molded by human for human.By the way, if one loves God then he/she will loves All...
So following anything is a sect. There should be only one sect-GOD Alone sect- uniting on being in one mindset with GOD s system of the straight path and justice/freedom for all.
A critical characteristic of a SECT / CULT / RELIGION is an existence of DOGMA.
Dogma = Idea / Belief which MUST NOT be questioned.All member of the sect / cult / religion must just obey, samina waatona, we hear and we obey.. and never ever dare to question the validity of the dogma. Those who dare to question let alone dare to state that the dogma is false / illogical / doesn't make sense must be PUNISHED, in order to maintain the 'purity' of the sect / cult / religion. By purity here means TOTAL OBEDIENCE.
This also resulted in the need of something to bond the member of the sect together. Something which makes them feel unique and superior compared to those who are outside of the sect.
Thus gives birth to yet another set of dogmas, such as- Only <Muslim/Catholics/Orthodox/Put your favorite sect here> are on the side of God others are enemy of God.
- Only <Muslim/Catholics/Orthodox/Put your favorite sect here> will be rewarded by God others will be tortured by God.
- Only <Muslim/Catholics/Orthodox/Put your favorite sect here> are the chosen by God others are unchosen by God.
- Only <Muslim/Catholics/Orthodox/Put your favorite sect here> have book that is truly written by God others are not written by God.
- Only <Muslim/Catholics/Orthodox/Put your favorite sect here> is the truest and purest group others are false / lower in status / made to serve us.
And many others of Superiorism dogma...
All are invented to keep the sect together, thus no one will dare to leave the sect.But herewith the rule that is applicable in this universe.. with abundant evidence observable throughout any time in history.
"For those who exalt themselves they will be humbled, and those who humble themselves they will be exalted."
-- Matt 23Whether the above sentence was written by God or human or animal or alien or whatever doesn't really matter, as it's truthfulness can be clearly observed.. Or putting the logic in reverse truth is truth, a statement of truth doesn't requires any claim of "written / authored by God" as it's truthfulness can be clearly seen.
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Well said and totally logical @ jaffar
Even people can find this attitude in book called quran when ibless said "i m better than him" and he get disqualified from the status he was having.
Problem started when people dnt TREAT people the way they want to get treated.
Also Author claimed many times all nation/all things/all time/space belong to God alone.(universal true God) depends on what God they having in mind.
