Has anyone on here ever met another quran only believer in real life

Jafar

Peace Jafar.
So we should just accept this statement about the authorship of Qoran from you brother, quote

A People or group of people who are heavily influenced by Jewish / Israelite traditions. I'm more lenient towards Jewish Christians a.k.a Messianic Jews.

How contradictory can you get/?And you expect people to use their logic and investigate?
You are setting a bad example of hypocrisy
Please come up with your evidence , or accept that this is your own opinion and assumption.

LOL..
NO I'm not asking anyone to accept any statement...
Especially around petty issue such as who actually authored a book.
Definitely for sure it was a human, the same as any other books...

But this is again a specific characteristic of a sect / cult / religion.
Making a fuss over things which doesn't matter...
And miss out the more important aspect of the message..

Yet I understand how difficult it is to reflect upon ourselves.. and how easy it is to judge upon others..
Thus I will take another example.

Another cult / sect are having a big debate on the true color of Krishna..
Whether it is red, blue or black.
I will say if Krishna did exist then his color is either dark brownish or light brown just like any other natural skin color of human being.
The cult will reply back with bring your evidence that Krishna's color was either dark brown or light brown..
But hey.. how does it matter what Krishna's true color is??? rotfl rotfl
It only matter to those who idolize Krishna...

Another cult / sect are having a big debate on the true nature of Jesus
Whether he is a god, a half god half human, true god true human or only human.
I will say if Jesus did exist then definitely he is a human being just like any other human being.
The cult will reply back with bring your evidence that Jesus was only a human being.
But hey.. how does it matter what Jesus was??? rotfl rotfl
It only matter to those who idolize Jesus...

Now back for the home base...

Another cult / sect are having a big debate on the true author of Quran.
Whether it was a god, or human or a group of human.
I will say given Quran is a book, just like any other book then definitely it was authored by human or a group of human.
The cult will reply back with bring your evidence that Quran was authored by human?
But hey.. how does it matter who authored the Quran??? rotfl rotfl
It only matter to those who idolize Quran..

Again I repeat the important message now.

Everyone have DIRECT access to the true God.
Any questions/worries you have in your mind, just ASK HIM.
He will answer.

Some power hungry people will try to gain advantage acting and claiming as 'the ultimate broker' to God. They can do this directly.. or indirectly, through intermediary of idols... where he/she/they control some aspect of the idols. They will say that you cannot access God directly, God only talks to the VIPs or you can access God only through this idol as intermediary.. or God no longer want to talk to you He has wrote a book which marks the end of His revelation. rotfl rotfl rotfl

All of them are BS-ing you..
You.. all of you have direct access to the true God just ASK HIM.

good_logic

Peace Jafar.
Your post is just dodging the issue. Who authored Qoran?
If you are not prepared to bring evidence or accept you are not sure and you are making an assumption ,then your replies have no real meaning .
Diverting, changing the subject, and hoping the issue will go away will not work.
GOD bless you.
Peace.

imrankhawaja

EVIDENCE = ?

https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=8TqSGpPPBXA

i think some individuals need to see this video and get a lesson even athiest voodoo EDIP and he was stumped and lost badly...

apparently atheist wins over him with the eye of neutrality...

although without any (holybooks/holy code) it can be interesting debate between athiest vs believer of original God(creator).

coders are helpless atheist smashed their idol called 19.
jafar we need you to call them i bet you can give them hard time...(i have faith on you)

good_logic

Imran, do you believe that a human/humans authored Qoran?
GOD bless you.
Peace

imrankhawaja

Imran, do you believe that a human/humans authored Qoran?
GOD bless you.
Peace

GL first of all tell me which quran you are talking about ? hmm

1 khalifa version (without 9/128-129)
2 hafs/warsh version peace

Jafar

Peace Jafar.
Your post is just dodging the issue. Who authored Qoran?
If you are not prepared to bring evidence or accept you are not sure and you are making an assumption ,then your replies have no real meaning .

I've given you straight and plain answer... it was written by Human just like any other books, stone tablets, scriptures, scrolls, ebook, software etc..
But again like I said you missed out the point..

Perhaps I need to add more points to make it clear.

I DON'T CARE what is the true color of Krishna, the true nature of Jesus, who actually wrote the Torah, who actually wrote the Veda and who actually wrote the Quran. It's not important at all. Only the cult member of respective idols that do care about such menial stuff.
It is perfectly fine if you believe the Veda was written by Gods, Harry Potter was written by God, Babylonian law was written by Marduk, Torah was written by YHVH, Quran was written by Allah, Book Of The Dead was written by Osiris, Nazca lines was written by Alien. It is your rights to believe in anything that you want and so does everyone's rights to believe in whatever they want. I have no interest in changing the way you believe in things.
Again I repeat Everyone have direct access to the true God, why not try asking him for whatever issues that you (or anyone else) might have. And curiosity is NOT BAD / EVIL. Every human was born with such traits and nothing wrong with that. Always be curious and always ask questions thus you will receive more answers / revelation. The holy books might shunned such attitude as it was actually written to control people and as a mean to ensure obedience towards cult members.

good_logic

Peace Jafar.
You not caring does not make your statement about Qoran true.
At least take on board that you are making an assumption without proper study/research and evidence .

You are advising this"Always be curious and always ask questions"? Are you doing this properly to find out about Qoran?
Its Author says

This is a revelation from the Lord of the universe The Honest Spirit (Gabriel) came down with it.
To reveal it into your heart, that you may be one of the warners.

In a perfect Arabic tongue.
It has been prophesied in the books of previous generations.

Is it not a sufficient sign for them that it was known to the scholars among the Children of Israel?

If we revealed this to people who do not know Arabic.
And had him recite it (in Arabic), they could not possibly believe in it.

We thus render it (like a foreign language) in the hearts of the guilty.
….
Or is it in a foreign language to you brother Jafar?
GOD bless you.
Peace.

good_logic

Brother Imran.
Your version that you have studied/looked at(Any of your choice). The Arabic text version of course.
GOD bless you.
Peace..

imrankhawaja

peace GL,

you dodged the QUESTION rotfl

did u see that video and "shame shame" of EDIP ?

Layth

Peace.

I had a look at he video. To use the argument of 19 to prove God?s existence to Atheists seems to be quite a circular argument to make. Best to leave the rejectors alone until they find their own way (if ever).

SarahY

This topic has wound up strangely.. feels like a mutazila and ashari argument of Quran and its createdness and uncreatedness.

Jafar. Good Logic, people can believe in God without religion but I also think religion helps people remember God or even help them make a connection with God. We follow a path we think is ?truest? but no matter what belief we hold we have our own bias and limitations. What we thought was true or right 10-20 years ago may not be the same thought today.

As for the original post yes I met people online in person who follow the Quranic approach. It was always during the day at a public place shopping centre, cafe and university. Sometimes with a friend or alone or with a group of others.

good_logic

Peace Imran.
Who authored the Qoran that the prophet received(the version you believe he received, if you do. )?

Is this not a clear question?

Peace Layth and Sarah
Both your posts are blank?.

GOD bless you all.
Peace.

Layth

That?s strange. I can see my posts. Can u send me a screenshot so I can have a closer look?

Wakas

I can also see the posts.

SarahY

It was blank for me earlier but now it's there

good_logic

I still cannot see both Layth s and earlier Sarah s posts?
There is just blank space..
They are the only three blank posts in the whole thread?
GOD bless .
Peace.

The_Sardar

Salam/Peace brother Good Logic, click on Quote on the blank spaces, you will see the missing text and the cause is black diamond shaped with question marks. It happened when the forum updated the place last year.

imrankhawaja

i can also see the posts.

Gl dodged the question second time do one more it will b a hatrick rotfl

BTW i ll help u brother i wil copy the posts of sarah and layth becoz u can see my posts and second reason both said beautiful words as always i love sharing their words for you look how helpful i am lol

LAYTH
Peace.

I had a look at he video. To use the argument of 19 to prove God?s existence to Atheists seems to be quite a circular argument to make. Best to leave the rejectors alone until they find their own way (if ever).

SARAH
This topic has wound up strangely.. feels like a mutazila and ashari argument of Quran and its createdness and uncreatedness.

Jafar. Good Logic, people can believe in God without religion but I also think religion helps people remember God or even help them make a connection with God. We follow a path we think is ?truest? but no matter what belief we hold we have our own bias and limitations. What we thought was true or right 10-20 years ago may not be the same thought today.

As for the original post yes I met people online in person who follow the Quranic approach. It was always during the day at a public place shopping centre, cafe and university. Sometimes with a friend or alone or with a group of others.

bravo for both of those brilliant FREE minds

GL just wonder why u blind to those posts may b hint from.God lol jk

Mazhar

i can also see the posts.

Gl dodged the question second time do one more it will b a hatrick rotfl

BTW i ll help u brother i wil copy the posts of sarah and layth becoz u can see my posts and second reason both said beautiful words as always i love sharing their words for you look how helpful i am lol

LAYTH
Peace.

I had a look at he video. To use the argument of 19 to prove God�s existence to Atheists seems to be quite a circular argument to make. Best to leave the rejectors alone until they find their own way (if ever).

SARAH
This topic has wound up strangely.. feels like a mutazila and ashari argument of Quran and its createdness and uncreatedness.

Jafar. Good Logic, people can believe in God without religion but I also think religion helps people remember God or even help them make a connection with God. We follow a path we think is �truest� but no matter what belief we hold we have our own bias and limitations. What we thought was true or right 10-20 years ago may not be the same thought today.

As for the original post yes I met people online in person who follow the Quranic approach. It was always during the day at a public place shopping centre, cafe and university. Sometimes with a friend or alone or with a group of others.

bravo for both of those brilliant FREE minds

GL just wonder why u blind to those posts may b hint from.God lol jk

This is explicitly written in the Divine Discourse. The First thing the Author of Qur'an argues with the reader is on this subject.

Mazhar

The Classification of Human beings with reference to the Concept of God as mentioned in Divine Discourse are as follows

Atheists; those who consider and believe not in the existence of http//haqeeqat.pk/English%20Tafsir%20e%20Haqeeqat/00.Tabweeb%20Part%202/001.%20Roots%20originating%20in%20Surat%20002/2.133/2.%20Ilaha%20Alif%20Laam%20Haa/9.gif God;
Monotheists; those who believe in the existence of solitary http//haqeeqat.pk/English%20Tafsir%20e%20Haqeeqat/00.Tabweeb%20Part%202/001.%20Roots%20originating%20in%20Surat%20002/2.133/2.%20Ilaha%20Alif%20Laam%20Haa/9.gif i.e. http//haqeeqat.pk/roots/Tabweeb/00002.%20Allah/Ilaha%20wahid.gif ; The Solitary God, the One Who maintains Singularity;
Dualists (Dualism-Zoroaster); those who believe in the existence of http//haqeeqat.pk/English%20Tafsir%20e%20Haqeeqat/00.Tabweeb%20Part%202/001.%20Roots%20originating%20in%20Surat%20002/2.133/2.%20Ilaha%20Alif%20Laam%20Haa/11.gif two Gods;
Trinity; those who believe in the concept of Trinity - three Gods;
Those who say Easa (alahissalam) son of Maryam the truthful is but Allah (the God)
Polytheists; those who believe in the existence of http//haqeeqat.pk/English%20Tafsir%20e%20Haqeeqat/00.Tabweeb%20Part%202/001.%20Roots%20originating%20in%20Surat%20002/2.133/2.%20Ilaha%20Alif%20Laam%20Haa/6.gif many Gods.
Those who adopt self-indulgences—desire - vested interest - passion - hypothetical conjectures as his iela'aha god.

Likewise there are 7 apartments of Hell Prison allocated each for a separate identity.