Why does God sometimes give us suffering with no way out

Sarah

Peace

I have a physically demanding job and every other day my job gets threatened because I'm not fast enough...I do all I possibly can and when I'm fast enough they'll say you rushed it...it seems impossible to get out of this problem no matter how hard i try and believe me I've tried for months..

Anyway, today it was 20x worse...I tried having patience but even that wouldn't get rid of my misery, I tried remembering Allah by saying stuff like God is the greatest and subhanallah over and over...but it just didn't help make me happier, I was still MISERABLE...I felt BETRAYED by God because in the remembrance of Allah do hearts find peace, but I only found momentarily peace/ comfort...the misery of the physically demanding job plus horrible smells in the environment which STANK literally caused me PAIN physically (my back and jonits ached from demanding work, my energy became less and less), I had to hold my nose closed when the smell got really bad plus the psychological anguish of my job being threatened kept me MISERABLE, I tried every mindset I could think of at the time to get out of it, but NOTHING worked...plus the job BARELY pays my rent!

It might not sound like much to you, but I literally was psychologically in TORTURE, I wanted God to just end my life, end my suffering, it was really that bad...I was trying to escape the suffering but I kept trying to run from one mindset to another and God just left all doors closed...I was psychologically SUFFOCATING.

I felt betrayed by God because He describes Himself as the most loving/ affectionate/ kind where is the love? How can He call Himself the most loving when He doesn't mind causing his creation so much MISERY? And not just me, but BABIES die in war etc. How is this the most kind???

And why did His saying of in the remembrance of Allah heart find peace- why does it not work when I'm also in physical pain plus psychological pain, afraid of losing the job that pays some of my rent?

I did ask God for forgiveness for these thoughts but I was in PAIN in so many ways, God can EASILY get rid of it (Be and it is) yet He chooses not to and calls Himself the most affectionate? I felt so HURT because this morning and yesterday esp. I read Qur'an for a good amount of time (I do everyday too),I prayed, I tried to do good deeds and I get repaid with SUFFERING....

I'm intellectually struggling to understand why God let's people who try to be close to Him suffer like this and also why He lets babies and animals suffer?

Also, for the past few weeks instead of doing salah as in praying 3 times a day, I took the other understanding of salah meaning read Qur'an or remember God 3 times a day...but I kept doubting if I should actualyl physically pray 3 times a day....so only today, this morning I did the 3 times a day prayer thing again (prayed fajr) just to be safe than sorry and also read quran at fajr time in case it doesn't mean ritual prayer, and the suffering happened today when I chose to pray like I used to....could it be god was punishing me for gonig back to ritual salah?

' If some good befalls them, they say, ?This is from Allah; but if evil, they say, ?This is from thee? (O Prophet). Say ?All things are from Allah.? But what hath come to these people, that they fail to understand a single fact? Whatever good happens to thee is from God; and whatever evil befalls thee is from thyself '(Quran 478-79)

Above verse proves both good and evil are from God.

If the 'evil'/ suffering is from myself, i didn't choose to make my boss constantly threaten to lose my job, I didn't choose to get rushed in that job...you might say i signed up for the job but my living situation forced me to otherwise how would i pay rent? I applied for better jobs for months and never got any places...if i could choose, i would obviously choose my job not to be threatened and I would not make my boss try to RUSH me...

Abaddon

Peace, Sister!

There is always a way out, GOD gave us everything we need to make the right decisions. He gave us our free will because he loves us. First of all, you need to submit to GOD in all of his attributes like TRUTH, LOVE, PEACE. So be truthful, be loving and peaceful. The other thing, ask for purity. Most important purity is internal purity, purity of thoughts then the purity of actions. Our thoughts and intentions are extremely powerful and it affects this material realm and our material body, so be aware of it.

Look for other possibilities, search for a new job or an apartment which is affordable. Never dispair and never fear anything or anyone except ALLAH. GOD is our strength.

Do you have a partner? You can also find tranquility in a healthy marriage. Look for someone humble and god fearing.

Death is not the end, Babies go straight to the gardens. Remember that GOD gave us a free will. There are people who are rotten at the core and they will even kill babies. But they will have their reward. Find a balance between your intellectual and intuitional part. Emotions are important, but not in excess.

Sarah

Peace Quincy,
I appreciate your answer.

'Our thoughts and intentions are extremely powerful and it affects this material realm, so be aware of it.' I do not believe in the law of attraction. if children in Africa want to manifest wealth and they are homeless and penniless, 9 times out of 10 they will just die instead of 'manifesting' their wishes for a better life.

And the physical energy God gave me is only limited and my boss DEMANDS that I do things FASTER than my natural ability...how do I know this? Because I've experienced it OVER AND OVER again...They just don't have enough empathy/ compassion, that's why they always threaten to fire me.

I do not have a partner...I tried searching for someone online but every time I do, I end up depressed and crying over someone I used to love but that person didn't love me and he was a narcissist I believe....now I'm weary of men because there are so many narcissistic men who do not truly love women plus there's the whole marry a believer not mushrik thing which I'm still confused about...

Rotten people kill babies....but God also lets babies die even through natural disasters etc. Why?

Abaddon

Natural disasters sometimes also occurs because People mess with nature. And there comes punishment or just simply the after effects. What about the flood? GOD killed everyone except NUH and his family. You know that rotten people often produce rotten children, who become adults and commit corruption on earth like their Fathers. Dont think too much about GOD's decisions. He is beyond good and evil.

Sarah

Natural disasters sometimes also occurs because People mess with nature. And there comes punishment or just simply the after effects. What about the flood? GOD killed everyone except NUH and his family. You know that rotten people often produce rotten children, who become adults and commit corruption on earth like their Fathers. Dont think too mich about GOD's decisions. He is above good and evil.

I understand what you're saying but is God supposed to be the most good (not sure if this is one of God's attributes)? From God's point of view, it's okay for a baby to brutally die if God allows it but if a human allows it, the human is evil...if God allows it, He is still good? So why is God above morality? Why is He allowed to get away with evil?

Plus God says that if He so willed, EVERYONE would be guided i.e. no rotten person...

I'm not saying God is evil, He gave me and everyone many blessings for which I thank Him for...I'm just saying looking at it logically, it seems He can get away with evil (however I do trust that there is a reason for this which I do not know about for why He lets evil exist)

good_logic

Peace Sarah.
Understandable what you are saying. Say it to GOD direct and blunt. Job did.
As for the ?real life? here are examples
A person born to a slave of Pharoah, his mum threw him in the ?Yam?, he became the ?Adopted son? of Pharoah?.Moses completes the story ?.
A person born to a prophet as a gift from GOD?. Chose to wonder in the wilderness, calling to the Lord?Met a horrendous end?John the Baptist completes the story?
?Weird and wonderful persons walked this earth, rich ,poor, rich then poor,poor then rich? History completes the story?

And this life goes on?Today for you, tomorrow against you or all days against you or all days for you?.Each one of us completes the story?

Yes indeed, ..A person who chooses GOD has GOD s gift ?Meditates to drives away the shackles and bad thoughts?Accepts whatever is on offer from the Lord( Yes ,even a horrendous life and death)?keeps close to GOD no matter where or when he/she was born.. Stays patient and loyal to his/her Lord for this short stay here? Then goes on to meet his/her maker?The real life starts ?Eternity ,here we come?Now that is the real life and provision?.GOD will complete the story.

This life is not easy , which ever way we look at it ,is it?
Cheers to the ?real life? .

May the Lord relieve the pain sister.
GOD bless you.
Peace.

Abaddon

Well, most of the time its peoples fault if an infant dies or something else happens. There are also other forces at work here. Remember that there are people who took Iblis as a Wali (protector and helper) and most of the time the most horrible things which happen on this earth are tracing back to them.

And also

"For each one are successive before and behind him who protect him by the decree of Allah. Indeed, Allah will not change the condition of a people until they change what is in themselves. And when Allah intends for a people ill, there is no repelling it. And there is not for them besides Him any patron."

Chapter (13) srat l-rad (The Thunder)

After suffering comes ease - after thunder comes rain. I suffered a lot this life, my parents died. I lost a leg, but this made me only stronger. And i am thankful to GOD for that.

ajzhyder

Salam sister
Seems like an indication that God intends a better means of income for you than your present job. I had some problems with my boss in the past then I took solace from the emotional management guidelines in Quran, i.e not to blame anyone for your miseries, not your boss or God. For the present until you have this job, don't consider your boss to be the one causing the problems. Even if you lose your job, God promises bounties for the believers. It is Satan who makes us fearful of poverty in the world.

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And those who, when a wrong reaches them, they help themselves

The believers help themselves when they are wronged from the knowledge of the fact that the oppressor who have oppressed them will meet similar fate (by Allah) i.e fully recompensed by Allah for their wrongful acts.

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The recompense for a wrong doing is a similar wrong doing (which will be inflicted by Allah). but if a person forgives and makes correction, his reward is due from Allah. for (Allah) does not love those who do wrong.

The point here is that the recompense of the wrong will be inflicted by Allah, therefore taking revenge is not allowed, and the person who forgives with this knowledge, will be compensated by Allah.

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But indeed if any do help themselves after a wrong (done) to them, against such there is no way.

If the believer retaliate to an oppressor with a similar wrongdoing, then he will be in the same boat, therefore the believers must help themselves with the knowledge that this is not their way of doing things.

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This way is for those who oppress people and do wrong-doings in the Earth without right, for such there will be a grievous penalty.

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and the one who shows patience and forgive, that would truly be from the great affairs

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Nor is goodness and Evil equal. Repel (Evil) with what is better. Then will he between whom and thee was hatred become as it were your friend and intimate!

Again it is said that that goodness and badness are not equal. The order for the believers is to respond to badness and hurts with something much better. They have to respond the wrongdoing on them with a good response and the result will be end of hatred among former enemies.

Sarah

Well, most of the time its peoples fault if an infant dies or something else happens. There are also other forces at work here. Remember that there are people who took Iblis as a Wali (protector and helper) and most of the time the most horrible things which happen on this earth are tracing back to them.

And also

"For each one are successive before and behind him who protect him by the decree of Allah. Indeed, Allah will not change the condition of a people until they change what is in themselves. And when Allah intends for a people ill, there is no repelling it. And there is not for them besides Him any patron."

Chapter (13) srat l-rad (The Thunder)

After suffering comes ease - after thunder comes rain. I suffered a lot this life, my parents died. I lost a leg, but this made me only stronger. And i am thankful to GOD for that.

I'm sorry to hear this (
I hope you are blessed despite this happening to you...I'm just curious about your lost leg, did you get into a car accident? Sorry if it's too personal a question...

Sarah

wassalam ajzhyder,
thank you for this...

imrankhawaja

peace sarah,

if u are living in england why not go for ?unemployed allowence?.
this way u can get a house from council ? as well as money.

other things if u dnt mind telling where u working?
its not india pakistan where bosses can get work more than appointed duty, you can complaint about your boss, nobody can get more work here in this country. you will only do whats ur duty.

third thing i dnt beleive after doing such hard work u still unable to pay the bills ? how ?
minimum wage is 7.2 ? per hour and if u just do 40 hrs in a week u can arrange full month rent.

herez a calculation 7.2 x 40 = 288 ( one week salary) based on minimum salaries in uk.

in a month u can roughly earn 1200 ? after tax 1000 ? roughly.
for a singke person easily u can get a good place for living in 300? so u r still saving 700? i dont undertand whats the struggle?.

the way how you write i never see a british person write this way.
anyway i left my advices for you which will give u benefit in real time space instead of sympathies i wish you/everybody to fight.

God will not help those who dnt help themselves ( first rule of God help ).
after doing hardwork/struggle ask help from God in matters whats not in our power like marriage matters.

Sarah

peace sarah,

if u are living in england why not go for unemployed allowence.
this way u can get a house from council ? as well as money.

other things if u dnt mind telling where u working?
its not india pakistan where bosses can get work more than appointed duty, you can complaint about your boss, nobody can get more work here in this country. you will only do whats ur duty.

third thing i dnt beleive after doing such hard work u still unable to pay the bills ? how ?
minimum wage is 7.2 ? per hour and if u just do 40 hrs in a week u can arrange full month rent.

herez a calculation 7.2 x 40 = 288 ( one week salary) based on minimum salaries in uk.

in a month u can roughly earn 1200 ? after tax 1000 ? roughly.
for a singke person easily u can get a good place for living in 300? so u r still saving 700? i dont undertand whats the struggle?.

the way how you write i never see a british person write this way.
anyway i left my advices for you which will give u benefit in real time space instead of sympathies i wish you/everybody to fight.

God will not help those who dnt help themselves ( first rule of God help ).
after doing hardwork/struggle ask help from God in matters whats not in our power like marriage matters.

Peace Imran

I don't have a full time job, thankfully I live with family...thanks for the info, made me think...

'the way how you write i never see a british person write this way.' What do you mean? /

imrankhawaja

Peace Imran

I don't have a full time job, thankfully I live with family...thanks for the info, made me think...

'the way how you write i never see a british person write this way.' What do you mean ? /

peace,
so you are paying rent to your family ?
is it a counsil house or mortgage one ?

why not applying for some other job the kind of work you like.as i feel in uk everyone doing the work they like to do. i mean there are different nature of works in which u dnt have to see the pressure of boss like jobs in delivery of food and driving related or care home related.

even part time can generate good money 24 hrs x 7.2 lol i m kidding money whatever u earn can never satisfy you even if u earn millions u still want to increase ur earnings human never can get satisfied the more money u have more change in life style therez always HUNGER part lives in human.

BOLD i mean their style of writting is different than yours.

Sarah

peace,
so you are paying rent to your family ?
is it a counsil house or mortgage one ?

why not applying for some other job the kind of work you like.as i feel in uk everyone doing the work they like to do. i mean there are different nature of works in which u dnt have to see the pressure of boss like jobs in delivery of food and driving related or care home related.

even part time can generate good money 24 hrs x 7.2 lol i m kidding money whatever u earn can never satisfy you even if u earn millions u still want to increase ur earnings human never can get satisfied the more money u have more change in life style therez always HUNGER part lives in human.

BOLD i mean their style of writting is different than yours.

cause I have no experience but hopefully i'll get some...

What about my writing style is different do you think lol ?

imrankhawaja

cause I have no experience but hopefully i'll get some...

What about my writing style is different do you think lol ?

everyone get experience by doing work FIRST time so u ll learn anything slowly slowly. if u start anywhere u have to learn from ZERO its you who will pick up the work with help
of your intelliegent and negotiating skills. thats why good learner is important factor instead of experience, every experienced person started from ZERO experience.

be confident

and writting style forget about it it will gona go offtopic. lol may b some other day or at ankther thread where u said english is not ur first language thats y may b.

so whats about ur rent thing ? dnt your parents see u have not much earning they shoudnt take rent from you ?

Sarah

everyone get experience by doing work FIRST time so u ll learn anything slowly slowly. if u start anywhere u have to learn from ZERO its you who will pick up the work with help
of your intelliegent and negotiating skills. thats why good learner is important factor instead of experience, every experienced person started from ZERO experience.

be confident

and writting style forget about it it will gona go offtopic. lol may b some other day or at ankther thread where u said english is not ur first language thats y may b.

so whats about ur rent thing ? dnt your parents see u have not much earning they shoudnt take rent from you ?

Thanks for the advice bro
Lol I'm FLUENT in English!! GRRR

The rent thing, yeah I'm dealing with it...I'll be fine Insha Allah don't worry about it but thank you for showing concern

imrankhawaja

Thanks for the advice bro
Lol I'm FLUENT in English!! GRRR

The rent thing, yeah I'm dealing with it...I'll be fine Insha Allah don't worry about it but thank you for showing concern

ok lol
God bless you sister.

hawk99

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This physical reality is composed of both positive and negative forces.
Both a taste of Jannah and Jahannam can be experienced here
in this life. What do you desire? Of course its the positive/Jannah
you desire, so stay positive and fear nothing but Allah, seek Allah's bounty,
your job is not the only job and know that Allah will make a way for you.
Allah is not your baby sitter, you have to make the right choices in this
reality or else find yourself unhappy. There is eternal cause and effect,
one thing leads to another, Things lead to unhappiness and things
lead to happiness.

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