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How did we populate the world in the first place

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    imrankhawaja
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    When did I say there will be evolution in the next life?

    i didnt said either rotfl

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      Mohammed_
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      Sorry, that was a question )

      peace Novice,
      if you believe that God makes human directly from the soil on the Day of resurrection, why you can’t believe the same for Adam?

      — To the best of my current understanding (17:36). ​من الله كل خير ولله الحمد
      "O you who have attained to faith! Surrender yourselves wholly unto God ..." [2:208], [3:102]

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        imrankhawaja
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        if you believe that God makes human directly from the soil on the Day of resurrection,

        What make u think the life hereafter required physical body of same set of properties what we are having in planet earth at the moment ?

        Real self lives inside the body we called "character"

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          Mohammed_
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          What make u think the life hereafter required physical body of same set of properties what we are having in planet earth at the moment ?

          Real self lives inside the body we called "character"

          peace,

          “From it We created you and in it We return you, and From it We bring you out another time.”
          This is about physical body in my understanding.

          Qur’an also mentions fruits, meat, drinks etc. many things/properties in the hereafter which are familiar in this world.
          Why should I GUESS what is not in the Qur’an?

          — To the best of my current understanding (17:36). ​من الله كل خير ولله الحمد
          "O you who have attained to faith! Surrender yourselves wholly unto God ..." [2:208], [3:102]

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            imrankhawaja
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            peace,

            “From it We created you and in it We return you, and From it We bring you out another time.”
            This is about physical body in my understanding.

            Qur’an also mentions fruits, meat, drinks etc. many things/properties in the hereafter which are familiar in this world.
            Why should I GUESS what is not in the Qur’an?

            PEACE brother ,

            I m not sure if you read full Quran or not anyway I will help you here.

            Your are talking about BODY/material
            I m talking about "character"/nafs that generated from the BLOW ( metaphorical) of creator.

            Every nafs/character will taste death.

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              peace,

              “From it We created you and in it We return you, and From it We bring you out another time.”
              This is about physical body in my understanding.

              This creation will be destroyed at the end so will humans be recreated before or after the final destruction?

              Qur’an also mentions fruits, meat, drinks etc. many things/properties in the hereafter which are familiar in this world.
              Why should I GUESS what is not in the Qur’an?

              1335

              Shabbir Ahmed (Quran As It Explains Itself)
              1335 The similitude of the Garden which is promised for the righteous, is flowing streams beneath, its fruit everlasting, and cool shades (1425, 4715). This is the end result of the righteous, while the end of the rejecters is Fire.

              4715

              Shabbir Ahmed (Quran As It Explains Itself)
              4715 In allegorical terms the Paradise that the righteous are promised is this Therein are rivers of ever fresh water, and rivers of ever fresh milk, and rivers of delicious wine, and rivers of clear-run honey. Therein are all kinds of fruit (of their good deeds), with a life secure from deterioration bestowed upon them from their Lord. Are they like the ones who abide in the fire and are given drinks of burning despair that tears their insides?

              I hope you understand similtude and allegory.

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                Mohammed_
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                PEACE brother ,

                I m not sure if you read full Quran or not anyway I will help you here.

                Your are talking about BODY/material
                I m talking about "character"/nafs that generated from the BLOW ( metaphorical) of creator.

                Every nafs/character will taste death.

                Of course, because You mentioned the same!
                In my understanding God created human from clay and He is inspired/blowed from His Rooh (that is Nafs).

                — To the best of my current understanding (17:36). ​من الله كل خير ولله الحمد
                "O you who have attained to faith! Surrender yourselves wholly unto God ..." [2:208], [3:102]

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                  Mohammed_
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                  peace Novice,

                  I meant why should I interpret Qur’anic descriptions of Hereafter with an alien mindset!

                  — To the best of my current understanding (17:36). ​من الله كل خير ولله الحمد
                  "O you who have attained to faith! Surrender yourselves wholly unto God ..." [2:208], [3:102]

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                    Jafar
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                    Another question to ask related to this is

                    • Did Adam and Eve have belly button?
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                      Mohammed_
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                      1335 مَّثَلُ ٱلۡجَنَّةِ ٱلَّتِى وُعِدَ ٱلۡمُتَّقُونَ‌ۖ تَجۡرِى مِن تَحۡتِہَا ٱلۡأَنۡہَـٰرُ‌ۖ أُڪُلُهَا دَآٮِٕمٌ۬ وَظِلُّهَا‌ۚ تِلۡكَ عُقۡبَى ٱلَّذِينَ ٱتَّقَواْ‌ۖ وَّعُقۡبَى ٱلۡكَـٰفِرِينَ ٱلنَّارُ

                      Shabbir Ahmed (Quran As It Explains Itself)
                      1335 The similitude of the Garden which is promised for the righteous, is flowing streams beneath, its fruit everlasting, and cool shades (1425, 4715). This is the end result of the righteous, while the end of the rejecters is Fire.

                      4715مَّثَلُ ٱلۡجَنَّةِ ٱلَّتِى وُعِدَ ٱلۡمُتَّقُونَ‌ۖ فِيہَآ أَنۡہَـٰرٌ۬ مِّن مَّآءٍ غَيۡرِ ءَاسِنٍ۬ وَأَنۡہَـٰرٌ۬ مِّن لَّبَنٍ۬ لَّمۡ يَتَغَيَّرۡ طَعۡمُهُ ۥ وَأَنۡہَـٰرٌ۬ مِّنۡ خَمۡرٍ۬ لَّذَّةٍ۬ لِّلشَّـٰرِبِينَ وَأَنۡہَـٰرٌ۬ مِّنۡ عَسَلٍ۬ مُّصَفًّ۬ى‌ۖ وَلَهُمۡ فِيہَا مِن كُلِّ ٱلثَّمَرَٲتِ وَمَغۡفِرَةٌ۬ مِّن رَّبِّہِمۡ‌ۖ كَمَنۡ هُوَ خَـٰلِدٌ۬ فِى ٱلنَّارِ وَسُقُواْ مَآءً حَمِيمً۬ا فَقَطَّعَ أَمۡعَآءَهُمۡ

                      Shabbir Ahmed (Quran As It Explains Itself)
                      4715 In allegorical terms the Paradise that the righteous are promised is this Therein are rivers of ever fresh water, and rivers of ever fresh milk, and rivers of delicious wine, and rivers of clear-run honey. Therein are all kinds of fruit (of their good deeds), with a life secure from deterioration bestowed upon them from their Lord. Are they like the ones who abide in the fire and are given drinks of burning despair that tears their insides?

                      I hope you understand similtude and allegory.

                      My post was to prove the possibility of 'physical element' of human in the hereafter.

                      — To the best of my current understanding (17:36). ​من الله كل خير ولله الحمد
                      "O you who have attained to faith! Surrender yourselves wholly unto God ..." [2:208], [3:102]

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                        imrankhawaja
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                        Another question to ask related to this is

                        • Did Adam and Eve have belly button?

                        rotfl thats very interesting indeed.

                        belly button is for providing food.. in the belly of mother.(current animals)

                        for this we have to go back to the first ANIMAL/s soon after the biological life started on planet earth somewhere billion years ago..

                        first generation of ANIMAL/s to see , but archeology only finds the species what were the last/final (for example) the last species of dinosaurs ...

                        we always found the LAST ones , lets see when we found the FIRST ones...

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                          imrankhawaja
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                          My post was to prove the possibility of 'physical element' of human in the hereafter.

                          456 Those who have rejected Our revelations, We will admit them to a Fire. Every time their skins are cooked, We replace them with other skins that they may taste the retribution. God is Noble, Wise.

                          why thinking so much when the ongoing process of skin changing factories are there rotfl rotfl

                          Of course, because You mentioned the same!

                          In my understanding God created human from clay and He is inspired/blowed from His Rooh (that is Nafs).

                          RED what did i mention ?( i didnt mix body with character)

                          BLUE from water every moving creature he created started from big BLAST (2130)

                          so you think God gona punish his OWN rooh rotfl thats hilarious

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                            imrankhawaja
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                            NOTE sometimes criminals leave the evidences of same pattern of crime in sites where they commit the crime like a serial killer only use a special type of weapon.

                            there is a VIRUS (old one) in someones CPU/brain what resulted in ARABIC turn in to PROGRAMMING language.. rotfl police

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                              Mohammed_
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                              peace imrankhawaja,

                              I think I didn’t make you correct in the beginning when you said

                              What make u think the life hereafter required physical body of same set of properties what we are having in planet earth at the moment ?

                              Real self lives inside the body we called "character"

                              I never said (even never thought) that.
                              It was my mistake, apologies.

                              peace Novice,

                              if you are depending science(evolution) for human origin, how will you interpret these verses?(5112-115)
                              Where God sent down a feast from the sky/space!
                              Probably it might have contained fruits in it(since fruits were/are the basic/best food for human) if so, what about its parental plants/primitive forms? where did it grown?
                              Even if no fruits, will the science agree with that?

                              — To the best of my current understanding (17:36). ​من الله كل خير ولله الحمد
                              "O you who have attained to faith! Surrender yourselves wholly unto God ..." [2:208], [3:102]

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                                Novice
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                                Another question to ask related to this is

                                • Did Adam and Eve have belly button?

                                Never thought of this genius question. bravo bravo bravo

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                                  if you are depending science(evolution) for human origin, how will you interpret these verses?(5112-115)
                                  Where God sent down a feast from the sky/space!
                                  Probably it might have contained fruits in it(since fruits were/are the basic/best food for human) if so, what about its parental plants/primitive forms? where did it grown?
                                  Even if no fruits, will the science agree with that?

                                  796

                                  If the people of the townships had believed in Divine laws and run their system right, We would have opened for them (the gates of) blessings from the heavens and earth. But they denied and Our law seized them for what they had earned with their deeds.

                                  Brother word by word translation cannot convey the message.

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                                    huruf
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                                    adam is the species, like neanderthal, not a cingle person and in the Qur'an adam is someime singular, sometimes plural and sometimes dual adam and partner. zawch, without atributing any gender to the zawch.

                                    So it was nt a single man nmed adm, but a species that upgraded to human.

                                    Salaam

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