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God is LOVE

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    hawk99
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    Peace Imran.

    This is a good but deep topic to unravel.

    For sure.

    Let's substitute "approval" in the place of "love" and see what happens.

    And Allah loves approves of the steadfast (3 /146) sabreen
    and Allah loves approves of the doers of good (3/134) mohseneen
    Indeed, Allah loves approves of the righteous (9 / 4) mutaqeen
    and Allah loves approves of those who purify themselves. ( 9/ 10 mutahireen
    Indeed, Allah loves approves of those who act justly (60 / muqsiteen

    Ha-Ba-Ba
    To beloved/beloved,affected/liked/approved, be an object of love,
    lovely/pleasing/charming, take pleasure in a thing, standstill orstop,
    be fatigued or tired, form a thing into something else,fill orstatiate
    a thing (with water or drink), become clotted/form aclot,form or break
    out with pimples/bubbles/small pustules. Tolove, like,wish.

    Just a thought. hmm

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      imrankhawaja
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      Let's substitute "approval" in the place of "love" and see what happens.

      PEACE lovely brother,

      ( &#1576 this root we cant replace with approval coz from the same root lot of words get generated some of them QURAN use as well.

      MEHBOOB = the one who is beloved
      HABU = lovely FRIEND
      MUHABBAT= LOVE/AFFECTION
      HABB= dear TO someone
      HUBB= dearer/ beloved

      and even in urdu (hub-ul-watan) lover of homeland we cant say approval of homeland... hmm

      although LIKED is somewhat similar in meanings only in few places if we take it as "preffered one" preffered due to love for a person..

      i preffered XYZ over XYZ ( due to the emotion of likeness) that turn in to muhabbat(affection).

      God bless you

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        Mahdi_Ibrahim
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        brother mahdi this one what u say if its ENERGY behind ?

        energy is matter have no emotions at all peace

        nothing at all but how to differentiate between "Love" and "Lust"?

        First, please do not confuse "Love" with "Lust" ... ELSE it will only prove Allah love "LUST Ego, sh*t https//scontent.fkul1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/58629920_2330802453802999_431678289518526464_n.jpg?_nc_cat=105&_nc_ht=scontent.fkul1-1.fna&oh=b8c8d90d5d9381ef29d20d797e6f4592&oe=5D705548" rotfl

        surely Allah cannot love "Lust".. Allah is THE MOST HOLY http//www.ezsoftech.com/islamic/99/004.gif laugh

        • Have you considered him who takes his own lust for his god? (2543)

        • Have you considered him who takes his own lust for his god? (4523)

        IF Lust

        THEN not Love disapproves by Allah

        ELSE approves by Allah

        The FORMULA for Love

        Allah has given you

        • love of iman (facts, natural) and made it pleasing to your hearts

        • and has made (ego, lust, unnatural) kufr, deviance and disobedience hateful to you

        People such as these are rightly guided ie Love (Q497)

        Love is like ghosts, which everybody talks about and few have seen.

        How?

        • God is LUST?

        • God is LOVE?

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          Mahdi_Ibrahim
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          so before you can say "I LOVE YOU", you must first have the ability to say "I"

          https//i.ibb.co/tCpTjGB/1108.jpg

          O Noah! Your son was not of your family! (Q1146)

          Friends love from lover, spouse, parents, family etc on that Day will be foes one to another except Al-Muttaqoon. (Q4367)

          Therefore, NOT LOVE of Allah, but the love of Shaytan LUST https//scontent.fkul7-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/52582508_2292324167650828_650262846092869632_n.jpg?_nc_cat=111&_nc_ht=scontent.fkul7-1.fna&oh=647a759690094dedcef2e47d583d3e2c&oe=5CECCE6A

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            amin
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            God's justice is Love and He makes us learn, fight, struggle, surrender everything out of love.

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              imrankhawaja
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              God's justice is Love and He makes us learn, fight, struggle, surrender everything out of love.

              so its God who make us fight ? .... o is this love ?

              FIGHT CLUB masjid

              https//www.movieposter.com/posters/archive/main/137/MPW-68704

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                imrankhawaja
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                nothing at all but how to differentiate between "Love" and "Lust"?

                LUST related with SEX
                LOVE is VAST in meanings...

                loving parents,teachers,God,kids,uncle, aunt etc is far from lust or sex...

                you asked very easy question group but i like tough ones so dnt waste your ENERGY brother..

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                  Mahdi_Ibrahim
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                  LUST related with SEX

                  where did Allah talk about sex?

                  • Have you considered him who takes his own lust for his god? (2543)

                  • Have you considered him who takes his own lust for his god? (4523)

                  Then succeeded after them successors, who neglected the prayer and they followed the lusts so soon, they will meet evil. (Q1959)

                  even modern people don't describe lust merely for sex

                  https//pbs.twimg.com/media/C-j1hrBUIAA4sgA.jpg

                  so how to differentiate?

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                    Mahdi_Ibrahim
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                    so its God who make us fight ? .... is this love ?

                    FIGHT CLUB masjid

                    is this lust?

                    You have an excellent example in Ibrahim and those with him, when they said to their people, "We wash our hands of you and all that you serve apart from Allah/Way of Allah, and we reject you. Between us and you there will be enmity and hatred for ever unless and until you have iman in Allah/Way of Allah/Sunnatullah alone." Except for Ibrahim's words to his father "I will ask forgiveness for you but I have no power to help you in any way against Allah" "Our Lord, we have put our trust in You. and have made tawba to You. You are our final destination." (Q604)

                    The pure natural believer (sunnatulah alone) should not take kafirun (forced justice) as friends rather than pure natural believer. Anyone who does that has nothing to do with Allah at all. (Q32 Your friend is only Allah and His Messenger and those who have iman (in natural justice). (Q555)

                    Is cherry picking lust?

                    Do you believe in one part of the Book and deny another part of it? (Q285)

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                      amin
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                      so its God who make us fight ? .... o is this love ?

                      FIGHT CLUB masjid

                      https//www.movieposter.com/posters/archive/main/137/MPW-68704

                      The world is greedy, sometimes we need to fight and struggle for our survival and this is how He guides us and shows us His love. Do we not fight against slavery and oppression?

                      do not reply me with those images, it looks childish play.

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                        Mahdi_Ibrahim
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                        Civil disobedience is an ACT OF LOVE.

                        https//i.pinimg.com/originals/4d/09/f6/4d09f65b36a6852f2aecd5aecdea9e4e.jpg

                        So Imran,

                        What is Love?

                        What is Lust?

                        They would like you to be kafir as they are kafir (neutral, bystander, moderate, peacemaker) so that you will all be the same (neutral, bystander, moderate, peacemaker). (Q489) They are neither with you nor with them (neutral, bystander, moderate, peacemaker). (5814, 4143) It is they who are Shaytan's army LUST. (Q5819) ..will be in the lowest depths of the fire. (Q4145)

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                          imrankhawaja
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                          The world is greedy, sometimes we need to fight and struggle for our survival and this is how He guides us and shows us His love. Do we not fight against slavery and oppression?

                          very true brother, thats why INDIA is fighting for their right and they teach lesson to people of KASHMIR again and again on daily basis.. they love God and God love them... PURE love hmm

                          and GOV love their soldiers who scored most in spreading red color... they have their rewards as medals called best performance...

                          do not reply me with those images, it looks childish play.

                          its also TRUE becoz in movies we know its an ACTING of entertainment...its a definate childs play from my side i m appologise for it..
                          next time i will try to send the REAL images of LOVE of indians for kasmir...

                          https//www.icit-digital.org/admin/docs/content/featured/574941050d94a_945.png

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                            imrankhawaja
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                            @ mahdi brother first I/WE need to prove we are REAL or NOT...

                            let my learning get better i will come to you ( hope so not in mental asylum) rotfl rotfl

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                              Mahdi_Ibrahim
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                              no answer to the issue (clear verses from the Quran) and you insist on your "cherry picking" understanding / "conventional wisdom"?

                              Is that "love" or "lust"? laugh

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                                imrankhawaja
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                                no answer to the issue and you insist on your "cherry picking" understanding?

                                Is that "love" or "lust"? laugh

                                what is love ?

                                baby dnt hurt me dnt hurt me no more... ignore

                                brother mahdi this one what u say if its ENERGY behind ?

                                energy is matter have no emotions at all peace

                                you said

                                nothing at all but how to differentiate between "Love" and "Lust"?

                                i m gonna revise it for you as usual spoon-feeding is my job for lot of my intelligent brothers here...

                                LOVE and LUST both are feelings/emotions how ENERGY/matter can have it ? if have it then explain it whatever u have in your mind.. yes

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                                  Mahdi_Ibrahim
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                                  baby dnt hurt me dnt hurt me no more... ignore

                                  We have created mankind in the best form (in heavens) Then We returned him to the lowest of the low (from birth). (Q955-6)

                                  i will revised it for you as usual spoon-feeding is my job for lot of my intelligent brothers here...

                                  LOVE and LUST both are feelings/emotions how ENERGY/matter can have it ? if have it then explain it whatever u have in your mind.. yes

                                  You are self-contradicting, and inconsistent with verses from the Quran.. how can that be considered as "intelligent"? Is that "LUST"? rotfl

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                                    very true brother, thats why INDIA is fighting for their right and they teach lesson to people of KASHMIR again and again on daily basis.. they love God and God love them... PURE love hmm

                                    and GOV love their soldiers who scored most in spreading red color... they have their rewards as medals called best performance...

                                    its also TRUE becoz in movies we know its an ACTING of entertainment...its a definate childs play from my side i m appologise for it..
                                    next time i will try to send the REAL images of LOVE of indians for kasmir...

                                    https//www.icit-digital.org/admin/docs/content/featured/574941050d94a_945.png

                                    God knows better Imran, and justice will be upheld whereever. You will understand when you see diversity winning over purity, truth over falsehood, good wins over evil and muslims(not the namesake, but peace lovers, those who thinks everyone's god is the same) over Mushriks(those who took ownership of their Gods and say God favors only their sect) whereever.

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                                      imrankhawaja
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                                      You are self-contradicting, and inconsistent with verses from the Quran.. how can that be considered as "intelligent"? Is that "LUST"? rotfl

                                      hahahahahahaha ok

                                      i m self contradicting becoz i said YOU intelligent rotfl rotfl rotfl rotfl

                                      so i m doing LUST bravo

                                      i havnt got the answer of first section in our discussion session...

                                      did matter got emotions of lust or love ?

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                                        Mahdi_Ibrahim
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                                        We're all intelligents people, so let's show the consistency of your definition of Love... how does your definition fit into the reality

                                        IF good people LOVE

                                        THEN disobey bad laws / rules LUST

                                        ELSE bad people

                                        can your definition or description of "Love" fit into this rule? no big deal, just to see how you reason...

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                                          imrankhawaja
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                                          You will understand when you see diversity winning over purity, truth over falsehood, good wins over evil

                                          TRUE
                                          it always happened throughout the history....

                                          moses and pharoah is an old example...

                                          INSHALLAH it will happen in kashmir too and we both brothers will be having a cup of tea in PEACE while looking at the natural beauty of our kashmir... its was once OURS now its not mine or yours its divided in hate my brother...

                                          we just need to wait for the DAY of reffrendum.

                                          GOD bless you

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