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How do you understand fasting

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    herbman
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    and my view regarding SAWM

    https//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9608637.0

    Peace

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      imrankhawaja
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      its TRUE & LOGICAL to solve the FIRST step before we advance to 2nd & 3rd STEP ...

      one thing for sure the lunar calendar started by the figure ("omar" / ==>bukhari) is clearly in error due to the seasons switching from hot to cold...

      it also contradict the YEAR whats in the sight of QURAN is based on 12 months..
      becoz after 3 consecutive years there is a full gap of 29-30 days what produce another month..

      and then the amount of FASTING days from 3-10 or full month will come in third STEP.
      in simple words its an (absolute/definite/confirmed) historical ERROR.

      AND the FIRST step to see what is FAST and what WAS the FAST before us ?

      my current understanding of first STEP is here..

      https//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9610670.msg424959#msg424959

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        4-Permission given- new resolution from now on, eat and drink is another way to say "enjoy"

        TRUE we can enjoy anything in general including (sex,food,drink,properties,money) ===> all these things are directly referenced from QURAN itself..

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          Mohammed_
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          peace,

          Feeding the poor (fidya) may be another option in such cases?(See reply #33 or #11)
          And from 589, 3 sawm is equivalent to feeding 10 poor persons.

          Regarding yuteeqoona (2184)

          Almost similar form of the root comes in 3180,

          “And let not those who are stingy/miserly with what God gave them from His grace/blessing think/suppose it is good/better for them, but it is bad/evil for them, they will be encircled/surrounded/burdened (with) what they were stingy/miser with it (on) the Resurrection Day…”

          Therefore I consider the meaning for yuteeqoona as ‘to be able to do but find extremely hard and difficult to bear’ i.e. a kind of burden.

          — To the best of my current understanding (17:36). ​من الله كل خير ولله الحمد
          "O you who have attained to faith! Surrender yourselves wholly unto God ..." [2:208], [3:102]

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            Mazhar
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            perhaps its not applicable to those who didnt qualify the criteria due to whatever reason..

            example people in ISS (international space station).

            funny POINT to ponder, its really impossible to do SEX in space station due to gravity lmao.... rotfl
            and if you go for fasting from FOOD & DRINK then its only like one hour fast and more than 15 fasts in a day.

            people in polar regions where they can have (long nights/permanent dark) lasting for months. so they are chilling there..

            these type of situations i guess thats why author of QURAN say whoever witness the shahr-e-ramadhan.

            The month of Ramadan is the month during which the Qur?n was compositely sent (to the chosen sincere allegiant Muhammad on appointing-assigning him the responsibility of the final Universal Messenger-Spokesperson) ?

            It (Qur?n) serves as guidance for the Mankind ?

            And distinctly self explanatory verbal passages were gradually communicated from the miscellany of Al-Huda'a the Guide (Qur?n) and Al-Furqau'n the Criterion; the Separator of right from wrong, fact from falsity-conjecture.

            Therefore, if he who reaching adulthood among you was present at home in this month, thereat, he should observe it by fasting.

            And if anyone has been suffering from sickness, or was embarking on a journey ?

            Thereby (he may adjourn fasting) the count be accomplished during the days of another-later month.

            Allah the Exalted intends easiness for you people ?

            And He the Exalted never intends difficulty-awkwardness for you ?

            And its purpose is that you might complete the count of fasting ?

            And that you might proclaim and praise the Sublime grandeur of Allah the Mightiest upon your getting aright guided (by adhering to Qur?n) ?

            .2185

            And so that you people might keep expressing gratitude.

            Both the sentences are conditional --- the opposite of a person on journey is the person who is at home.

            Interestingly the basic perception of Root

            bn Faris stated

            ( &#1577
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            That it leads to the perception of abstinence, and stasis - stagnancy at home.

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            Fasting is the act and state of abstinence of activity relating to food intake and genitalia and speech.

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