Does The Quran say God told Abraham to sacrifice his son? - Eid Al Adha
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Peace Jafar.
Your story is not finished, ,this is more like itKim Il Sun Son, what do you say if I kill you as a sacrifice to our Korean gods?
Kim Jong Il Do as you please dad.
Kim Il Sun ** Lifting his dagger to kill his own son **
Kim Jong Suk STOP!!! WTF are you doing!! Il Suk!! Are you F&*ng insane? He's our child!!!
That's it.. I had enough with this!!
Jong Il!!! Come with Mama.. we're leaving this nuthouse.. your dad is F&*ng insane!!
As for you Il Sun!! That's it.. I had enough of this.. I'm filing for a divorce.. and you don't deserve any parental rights!!Kim Il Sun Son, your mum has saved you. I will sacrifice her instead.
yeah whatever
GOD bless you.
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Kim Il Sun Son, your mum has saved you. I will sacrifice her instead.
then suddenly robbers entered into the house who were also serial rapists/murderers .. now there is a big twist lmao rotfl
robbers demand from parents let them do the things as per their wish otherwise son is at risk ....
wife said ok kill my son i dnt want to give sacrifice anymore, he already was willing to give sacrifice for no reason atleast he have a reason to save the honor of mother..
husband said do whatever you guys want they already planned to leave me ...
another twist son offered robbers that he want to work for them free of charge as a team if they killed both of his parents ...
or horror genre son turned into monster and killed every single person in the house..
stories upon stories, twists upon twists, versions upon versions, thats what the beauty of human mind = very complicated thing at planet earth..
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Yes brother Imran.
All stories will end and most of the human race will live happily ever after. In HELL!!!!Like Pharoah, Hitler, past leaders from all sorts of tribes and nations....
Perhaps also good logic, Jafar,, your good self ,other brothers and sisters from here and elsewhere that are lucky for now to be living after them generations if each one of us does not "sacrifice " our satans and learn from their examples and stories.GOD bless you.
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The moral I think is,
Abraham belief is so strong he was prepared forego a priceless procession of him, for some cause of goodness, thats the command, and God rewarded for his belief and made it easy with a sacrifice easier for him.
Prepare to give every effort in the name of goodness, God makes it easier.
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Yes brother Imran.
All stories will end and most of the human race will live happily ever after. In HELL!!!!yes brother GL,
you are time-traveler who knows where most of the people will go and what state of happiness and sadness they will experience isnt it.. rotfl
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It is not rocket Science to know where humans end up after they finish with this life.
They will either be with GOD or without GOD. I,e haven or hell!!!Since "Majority" do not accept the "rule of GOD" one can guess the obvious.
So brother Imran this simple matter does not require time travel.
When we hit the gravel, the destiny of hell is where the majority will travel.
And all the mysteries you are pondering now will unravel.GOD bless you.
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It is not rocket Science to know where humans end up after they finish with this life.
i agree its not a rocket science becoz rocket science deals with discovering space.. rocket science got nothing to do with afterlife
its a time-travelling science still in process of discovery shrouded in cover of mystery
Since "Majority" do not accept the "rule of GOD" one can guess the obvious.
becoz majority get the rules from human made ideas,things,books vs the direct communication/postage.
guesswork plays an important role specially its very easy to guess about future becoz nobody can prove it wrong due to lack of vision in future, hence time-traveling required for proven fact..
They will either be with GOD or without GOD. I,e haven or hell!!!
nothing will gona happen whats not in accordance to the plan of creator, you and me will find out in future, until then chill lol..
So brother Imran this simple matter does not require time travel.
When we hit the gravel, the destiny of hell is where the majority will travel.
may b its simple for you but science see it differently, future events prediction with a solid claim absolutely required time-travel..
the one who made the destiny will lead all actors to the place what he created for the actors of past and future.. according to his plan of placing actors who performed the roles what designed for them by designer.
if he want you to play a villain or hero then nothing can stop you from playing that role..
mickey mouse will certainly play the role what walt disney(his creator) decided for him...mickey got no power to go against walt-disney -
Peace Jafar.
Your story is not finished, ,this is more like itDefinitely, let me put some more on top of yours..
Kim Il Sun Son, what do you say if I kill you as a sacrifice to our Korean gods?
Kim Jong Il Do as you please dad.
Kim Il Sun ** Lifting his dagger to kill his own son **
Kim Jong Suk STOP!!! WTF are you doing!! Il Suk!! Are you F&*ng insane? He's our child!!!
That's it.. I had enough with this!!
Jong Il!!! Come with Mama.. we're leaving this nuthouse.. your dad is F&*ng insane!!
As for you Il Sun!! That's it.. I had enough of this.. I'm filing for a divorce.. and you don't deserve any parental rights!!Kim Il Sun Son, your mum has saved you. I will sacrifice her instead.
** Kim Il Sun starting to assault his own wife Kim Jong Suk, but due to Il Sun's old age Jong Suk managed to put on a good fight before finally run away with her son Jong Il. During the fight Jong Il called 911 for help and 30 minutes later the police came to apprehend Kim Il Sun **
Judge Kim Il Sun you're being charged with Assault and Attempted Murder how do you plead?
Kim Il Sun Not Guilty Your Honor!! I was being tricked by Satan, he promised me that if I sacrificed my own son I will own the land of this entire country as a reward.
Judge Huh??? So this Satan is some kind of real estate agent???
Kim Il Sun's Lawyer Your honor, on behalf of my client, we would like to put a mental disorder defense for this case.
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If "Kim Il Sun" was living today, he definitely will not be remembered as a 'hero' but as a 'lunatic'...
I deliberately put the same story in "Korean" context thus no one will feel obliged to defend their 'idol' / 'hero' thus more objectivity to view this case is expected. -
Peace Imran.
I disagree with your take here, quote
the one who made the destiny will lead all actors to the place what he created for the actors of past and future.. according to his plan of placing actors who performed the roles what designed for them by designer.
if he want you to play a villain or hero then nothing can stop you from playing that role..
mickey mouse will certainly play the role what walt disney(his creator) decided for him...mickey got no power to go against walt-disneyMy take here
You , me and every individual make their own destiny.. The creator does not force or want anyone to be/do evil
Thank your lucky stars you experience life. Or would you prefer you were nothing?
I accept the restraints of life and death put on me. I trust the creator for what I cannot control. I acknowledge my limited knowledge will hinder my decisions. But I accept accountability and freedom to shape my own destiny which the creator granted every human.The creator does not want you to be anything you do not want to be. Good or bad are the choices that we make.
GOD bless you.
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My take here
You , me and every individual make their own destiny..its just your wishful thinking.
you me and everyone have 0 % control in everything what happened and will happen to me, you and everybody..i wish we could make our destiny or atleast 0.00001 % of our destiny.
btw we are going off-topic here i said to prove the afterlife events one have to master over time-travel. otherwise all are just guessworks so we need to treat them like guess-works.
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Peace Imran.
So you are controlled by some power in choosing and making your own decisions?
Then go and do whatever you want. That power will be accountable for you.
You have a good excuse as far as you are concerned.This is very much on topic. Had Abraham sacrificed his son, would he have blamed GOD ?
One would argue logically and fairly that if GOD had instructed the act, then GOD is to blame!!!!According to your thinking, accountability does not exist?
GOD bless you.
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So you are controlled by some power in choosing and making your own decisions?
what is a difference between making destiny and making decision ?
did u made ur destiny ?
did u select what time,country,race you born?now its (double-offtopic) its ok if you are not a time-traveler rotfl you dun wana admit its another matter.. laugh
This is very much on topic. Had Abraham sacrificed his son, would he have blamed GOD ?
One would argue logically and fairly that if GOD had instructed the act, then GOD is to blame!!!!although i decided to talk further on that issue if u want my views on it..as i see that linked with topic.
he(abraham) already knew its from God still billions of muslims believed on it that it was from God in the end God send a lamb miracle when abraham opened his eyes lamb was there instead of ishmael..
they already made abraham slaughter his son..(but a miracle appearance of lamb saved him from becoming a son slayer) otherwise we all will be slaying our sons as a tradition rotfl i still hear that story people telling their kids infront of me.
BOLD one would also argue God is responsible for the deaths by tsunami, volcanoes, earthquakes, flood, accidents, etc
and also when nations like lot, adh, samod, noah get destroyed by God there were innocent kids there too etc..
one can also argue not a leaf can move without God permission etc...(everything comes from him)one can argue a lot about lot of things.
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Had Abraham sacrificed his son, would he have blamed GOD ?
One would argue logically and fairly that if GOD had instructed the act, then GOD is to blame!!!!According to your thinking, accountability does not exist?
First and foremost, nobody can be really sure that this "Abraham attempted to murder his own child" really did happened.
And personally I find a lot of suspicious / odious things about the myth / legend in the first place.And it came down to "CLAIM ON A PIECE OF LAND".
The sequence of the myth are
- Abraham attempted to sacrifice his own child
- God is moved on what Abraham is willing to do for Him and send out Gabriel to stop the act and put a lamb instead.
(Note What did the lamb do to deserve this ???? another point to ponder..) - Afterward God is so happy that He made a Real Estate agreement with Abraham, God will give the entire land of Canaan to Abraham's descendant and to seal the real estate contract; God demanded Abraham's descendant's penises to be circumcised. As long as they keep circumcising the penises of their boys, God will honor the real estate contract.
I found the above to be totally ridiculous... rotfl rotfl
A series of ridiculous events to justify a claim of ownership made by a group of people on a piece of land and also a justification to expel people not from their own group (those with uncircumcised penises) from the piece of land.
BTW, my penis is also circumcised thus I have a divine right to own a land in the middle east????? rotfl rotfl
Next..
From series of events which made up the legend / myth of Abraham, why the heck they choose to commemorate and celebrate the insanity of Abraham??????
Why not commemorate / celebrate the bravery and brilliance of Abraham when he decided to go against all odds to expose the scam of religion put forth by religious authority?
Even though his own dad was among the key figure of religious authority??
And Abraham was convicted with death by burning because of it?????That is something that truly deserves a standing ovation....
In similar manner as today's John Oliver put forth a funny and well made exposure of religious scam.
Televangelists Last Week Tonight with John Oliver
https//youtu.be/7y1xJAVZxXg -
BTW, my penis is also circumcised thus I have a divine right to own a land in the middle east????? rotfl rotfl
rotfl rotfl
i wonder why dnt they follow the command the way it happened to abraham..
At the age of 80 Abraham did his circumcision with the help of AXE, rotfl rotfl rotfl
(Note What did the lamb do to deserve this ???? another point to ponder..)
on the other hand they sacrificed the animals of different kinds instead of lamb lol..
all other animals cows,goats,sheeps,camel,cattle etc will file a case against the un-justice happened to them, they can easily say in the story lamb was there whats our fault hmm (animal abuse victims)
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I do not see any lamb in the story of Abraham in Qoran.
So Jafar and Imran, you are talking about peoples view on the story.A lot of assumptions and misunderstanding has nothing to do with what I posted.
Also I do not have a religion, brother Jafar you are mixing me up with some religion I do not claim.If you quote me, address my points in my posts . Where did I mention any lamb?
GOD bless you both.
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I do not see any lamb in the story of Abraham in Qoran.
Correct the "Quran version" doesn't mention any lamb...
Also I do not have a religion, brother Jafar you are mixing me up with some religion I do not claim.
Good for you.. religion / cult is a poison to common sense and healthy conscience...
But again whether it's replaced with lamb, beef or kebab or salad doesn't really matter.
It's the entire story that I find it ridiculous...Why not commemorate the legend of Abraham on some of his bold achievement?
Exposing the scam of religion within his own society.
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Peace Jafar.
Firstl bring me where I commemorated anything about Abraham? If you are addressing me. Then add this to it, quoteWhy not commemorate the legend of Abraham on some of his bold achievement?
Exposing the scam of religion within his own society.
And make it as an inspiration on everyday life...Otherwise brother Jafar you are making assumptions about me.
Can you see the irony and hypocrisy in your posts ? You are laughing at some assumed views/religion about me!
That is as bad or worse than what you seem to be criticising.
Reminds one of the "plank in the eye", you quote Jesus a lot in some of your posts brother. Use the advice for you as well.
GOD bless you.
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I do not see any lamb in the story of Abraham in Qoran.
So Jafar and Imran, you are talking about peoples view on the story.correct you said something like this
This is very much on topic. Had Abraham sacrificed his son, would he have blamed GOD ?
One would argue logically and fairly that if GOD had instructed the act, then GOD is to blame!!!!laugh
A lot of assumptions and misunderstanding has nothing to do with what I posted.
rotfl
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Peace Imran.
You are joking ? Quote
correct you said something like this.Like what? Where do you get "lamb" from my quote?
You mean you do not get what I said?
GOD bless you.
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@ gl bro let me make it more easy for you..
Me and jafar did not say GL is talking bout lamb,
Then rest of my posts will b easy to understand.
rotfl and i m not joking, ur posts make me laugh a lot thanks for the laughs what i get from u. I appreciate you for this .