Truth Seeking & Soul searching

TMK

HI Zenje

TMK wrote
This means The God has allowed humans to take upon themselves a test that The God knew most peole would fail.

Does The God Know? Think about it, then get back to me... if at all possible with some verses, for back up. Try not to think in numbers, as in majority of the people etc. That really doesn't matter. Just think on an individual basis. And remember...

And We will place the scales of justice for the Day of Resurrection, so that no soul will be wronged in the least. Even if it was the weight of a mustard seed, We will bring it. And We are sufficient as a Reckoner.

TMK wrote
So why did God create such a difficult test for such a weak creature as a human? (you cannot say it is easy...
Oh yes I can!

Peace!

can you give me your understanding and clarification of the topics in bold above from earlier chat.

thanks

peace

TMK

sorry and also

TMK wrote
This means The God has allowed humans to take upon themselves a test that The God knew most peole would fail.

Does The God Know? Think about it, then get back to me... if at all possible with some verses, for back up. Try not to think in numbers, as in majority of the people etc. That really doesn't matter. Just think on an individual basis

your clarifi9cation/understanding of te topic in bold above

peace wink

zenje

Peace TMK,

I thought I'd already gotten back to you about your questions?

As for 'Does the God know'... I gave you a link which has all that I think about it... I really cant add anything to it.

And your other question went like this...

So why did God create such a difficult test for such a weak creature as a human? (you cannot say it is easy...
Oh yes I can! D
can you give me your understanding and clarification...
I hope these verse will clarify...

And seek help through patience, and the contact-method. It is a difficult thing, but not so for the humble.
The ones who conceive that they will meet their Lord and that to Him they will return.

Chapter 92
5. As for he who gives and is righteous.
6. And trusts in goodness.
7. We will make the easy path for him.
8. And as for he who is stingy and holds back.
9. And denies goodness.
10. We will make the difficult path for him.
11. And his wealth will not avail him when he demises.
12. It is upon Us to guide.
13. And to Us is the end and the beginning.

Peace be with you. )

TMK

hI Zenje

thanks for the clarificatrion. I know that you already answered my questions with the articles. As for the does God know article. I found it technical -ish ! can you summarise it any way, what is the essence if it and how does it relate to ou chat, sorry to keep bothering you and being difficult. ops

peace

zenje

Peace TMK,

I know that you already answered my questions with the articles. As for the does God know article. I found it technical -ish !
Actually that particular answer, I had given a link to a conversation I had about the same subject... not an article. Again, here's the link - http//www.free-minds.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=806

can you summarise it any way, what is the essence if it and how does it relate to ou chat
You had asked why would God give us the test KNOWING we're going to fail. I replied that we asked for it, but you didn't take to that answer, perhaps it wasn't satisfactory. I also asked you to ponder on whether the God knows if a person will fail a test or not. You said...

This reply is off the top of my head i have not reflected upon it much.

The God is all knowing He knows the future etc. Even of one or two people go to hell for eternity than surely The God would have known and could have prevented them from Hell by not testing them? By not giving free will !
Thats a good answer, and in many ways, correct. However that's not what I meant when asking that question. Perhaps I didn't relay the question clearly.

Now, before going further... please read the link I gave you and tell me what you think of it. I will say again - these are my thoughts, they may be all wrong, or have some truth in them... you are not required to believe them, however it is up to you to investigate further and perhaps reach a conclusion.

sorry to keep bothering you and being difficult. oops
No bother at all! And if I made it seem like you were, my apologies, as that was not my intention.

Peace be with you.

yfn123

Greetings with peace,

Perhaps you meant you have stopped performing the must 2-4-4-3-4 ritual... )

Anwar Azim

Peace
I have now stopped performing salat as i am not sure about it anymore after reading articles here. The Arab conspiracy article was fascinating. That seems to make sense. However i still have to verify many things myself.