Was there any other creation before humans and jinn and why are most made for...
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Peace
and why are most people made for hell?
If God is infinite, does that mean that there were an infinity of creation even before us? It's so hard to understand or grasp. Or are humans and jinn the first creation of its kind?
Also, why did God decide to make most humans for hell because it is mentioned that if God willed, everyone would have been a believer. To me, it's so depressing to know that most people are not for heaven. That they would one day burn in hell. That it would most likely include all my loved ones. It's depressing. Sometimes I think of it as sadistic but then I think maybe there is a greater reason because God didn't make most people for hell to entertain Himself. Maybe if most people were good and believers we wouldn't learn much? Maybe we first need to learn about human psychology before entering the hereafter?
I honestly do not understand why God CHOSE to make most people unbelievers- worthy of hell and then most of the quran is warning us not to be or become like them. And it also disapproves of them. Is angry at them for being rejecters but couldn't God EASILY just solve this problem by CHOOSING to make everyone a believer?
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Peace Sarah,
Who did tell you about this
Also, why did God decide to make most humans for hell ?
its you ( human or jinn) makes that choice, you ( human and jinn) has free will , you can do what ever you want , or say whatever you want to say ( offcourse there will be consequenst).
i see this way
When Allah made us , he knew what we are gonna choose ( which path) and he saw /sees that most human and jinns go astray , and that is what Allah tells us in his book. thats why Quran is for the people who beleave in Allah.I honestly do not understand why God CHOSE to make most people unbelievers- worthy of hell
Again , its the choice of the living...
like why do Angels do not go astray ?? they ALWAYS do what Allah ask, no matter what ... thats why there are none mentioned about the punishing the Angels...
Iblis did go astray because he was from the jinn.btw i read this a lot , but makes no sense to me , Allah has no feelings , is not emotional being like humans ( jinn), so he would not be angry or happy or sad. otherwise it would make Allah weak if he had feelings ..
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Fatiha
ehdina SiraT al mustaqiim.That is what we ask from God, if we do. To God everything will return, because in fact God is the only one thing that exists, we have no existence by ourselves, but because God gives us existence to the extent He wants to. So everybody eerything will return to God. What we ask in the fatiha is that we do so via a Sirat al MusTaqim, not through a painful or twiested and complicated way.
So if we want it easy we should ask God to lead us the soft easy way and for that He has given us directions, first thing to ask Him, but if we ask Him and then do not take any notice of what He tells us to make it easy and soft we will still return to Him but the hard way. That is it.
Salaam
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Peace Sarah.
You say, quote
but couldn't God EASILY just solve this problem by CHOOSING to make everyone a believer?What about our choices?
Then we expect GOD to force people or Jinns to be believers if they choose the opposite?The two paths are there for a very good reason. Otherwise GOD would have created robots/other creatures and they would not be humans or Jinns .We humans chose this life(Amana) . It comes with its rewards and sanctions.
GOD will not change His promise.
GOD bless you.
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Peace
and why are most people made for hell?
If God is infinite, does that mean that there were an infinity of creation even before us? It's so hard to understand or grasp. Or are humans and jinn the first creation of its kind?
Also, why did God decide to make most humans for hell because it is mentioned that if God willed, everyone would have been a believer. To me, it's so depressing to know that most people are not for heaven. That they would one day burn in hell. That it would most likely include all my loved ones. It's depressing. Sometimes I think of it as sadistic but then I think maybe there is a greater reason because God didn't make most people for hell to entertain Himself. Maybe if most people were good and believers we wouldn't learn much? Maybe we first need to learn about human psychology before entering the hereafter?
I honestly do not understand why God CHOSE to make most people unbelievers- worthy of hell and then most of the quran is warning us not to be or become like them. And it also disapproves of them. Is angry at them for being rejecters but couldn't God EASILY just solve this problem by CHOOSING to make everyone a believer?
Salam Sarah!
I completely understand your questions and concerns, and have wrestled with them for years. There is no proper answer to these questions because we do not understand complete reality.
For instance, we see time as linear. Go back several billion years and you have a question what was God doing before all this? Were there more universes before this? Did God come into being then, if this is the first creation? We have no answers.
The question about several being made for hell is obviously poignant. As humans who may end up in hell it hurts us — especially when we see some people who really struggle with some problems that may very well be beyond their control. It’s very easy to say that it’s human choice to go towards heaven and hell. In reality, though, there are lots of factors affecting choices.
I look at my cousin he’s bipolar with a narcissistic personality disorder. Some choices are out of his control while others can be made better by work. Either way, he’s not fully his free will sometimes. It doesn’t make sense to judge him in black and white means. Similarly, infinity to us sounds billions of years. Honestly, it doesn’t make sense to condemn people to hell infinitely — what purpose does it serve? Ok, I understand corrective hell and that can be very long, but just burning/punishing forever sounds over the board. I am saying all this in relation to a God who is merciful, just, forgiving, and wise. I of course understand and acknowledge that I may be missing out on sufficient knowledge and humbly hope to be better educated by Him ... but this is my current understanding.
Another thing that really bothers me is Shirk being unforgivable. I see why Firaun’s shirk is problematic; however, a layman who has VERY little knowledge and exposure is most likely to follow the path of shirk/non-monotheistic beliefs. How can we easily judge him and say “he should have chosen better.”
That said, I genuinely believe that we don’t understand God and the world’s reality. I find Quran very deep, but even then it’s words and 7 seas or more cannot explain God and reality. We’re probably approaching judgement, heaven, hell, and life in a limited way. We don’t have that exposure yet to truly appreciate what existence of humans and jinns implies. Time and again Quran says God is beyond needs and yet there is emphasis on following God alone, etc — I am sure it means something to and for us rather than God. Otherwise, God is really just playing a game with all of us ... He creates, judges, condemns, and feels godly. Sounds very human ...
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Peace Sarah,
Who did tell you about this
its you ( human or jinn) makes that choice, you ( human and jinn) has free will , you can do what ever you want , or say whatever you want to say ( offcourse there will be consequenst).i see this way
When Allah made us , he knew what we are gonna choose ( which path) and he saw /sees that most human and jinns go astray , and that is what Allah tells us in his book. thats why Quran is for the people who beleave in Allah.
Again , its the choice of the living...like why do Angels do not go astray ?? they ALWAYS do what Allah ask, no matter what ... thats why there are none mentioned about the punishing the Angels...
Iblis did go astray because he was from the jinn.btw i read this a lot , but makes no sense to me , Allah has no feelings , is not emotional being like humans ( jinn), so he would not be angry or happy or sad. otherwise it would make Allah weak if he had feelings ..
Great points, but I don’t think you understand the OP’s anxiety around somethings. For instance, if God already knows that we’ll mess up why does He create us in such a way that most of us will end up in hell?!
Also, the point about angels does not apply. They have no option but to obey God. They have no choice in this matter. Humans and Jinn on the other hand have the choice, but this choice makes them more likely to falter. We’re not wise at all. We make mistakes and learn from them. We’re not saints or angels who won’t make mistakes and misjudgments. In fact, we learn most from mistakes and that lesson is more lasting.
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Are we assuming this is our first life?
Qoran indicates otherwise.
This may be our first time as humans, but we existed in a past life. as other creatures. What? Where? We do not recall. We are reminded in Qoran about the past life-Wa Lakad Alimtumu Al Nashata Al Oula, Afala Tadhakaroon?
Also -Kuntum Amwatan Fahyakum Thumma Yumitukum...
i.e we were dead before we were created as humans can only mean that we existed before.
We have chosen to come back as humans and accepted the Amana-Responsibility to live as humans- Why? When?
GOD bless .
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Great points, but I don’t think you understand the OP’s anxiety around somethings. For instance, if God already knows that we’ll mess up why does He create us in such a way that most of us will end up in hell?!
Also, the point about angels does not apply. They have no option but to obey God. They have no choice in this matter. Humans and Jinn on the other hand have the choice, but this choice makes them more likely to falter. We’re not wise at all. We make mistakes and learn from them. We’re not saints or angels who won’t make mistakes and misjudgments. In fact, we learn most from mistakes and that lesson is more lasting.
Peace Rahma,
when Allah created us , he gave us free will, its our deeds whats couting , we dont know what feature will bring to us, but its allready known by Allah. and this is he telling to us, what will happen in the feature. and when i look in to the world what is becoming '( ...but my view of the world is made by external sources so what is real ??can you tell me what angels are ? when or how they created (from the Quran )
اَللّٰهُ أَعْلَم
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Are we assuming this is our first life?
Qoran indicates otherwise.
This may be our first time as humans, but we existed in a past life. as other creatures. What? Where? We do not recall. We are reminded in Qoran about the past life-Wa Lakad Alimtumu Al Nashata Al Oula, Afala Tadhakaroon?
Also -Kuntum Amwatan Fahyakum Thumma Yumitukum...
i.e we were dead before we were created as humans can only mean that we existed before.
We have chosen to come back as humans and accepted the Amana-Responsibility to live as humans- Why? When?
GOD bless .
Peace.Great point! We don’t know what preceded us. We don’t even remember taking that responsibility/amana!!!
Perhaps we have existed before in a different way. Our memories don’t serve us well.
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Peace All...
I am addressing all who commented above...If one claims confused rather than concerned and searching for truth then I don't think guidance and clarification would reach....
If you all who have concerns as you all have stated above.... Pls ponder this also.... If you can deduce it must probably you will resort for answers...
*** why Musa's teacher killed that innocent boy... Great prophet was kept silence after only one question....
*** Why God kills/ed children by His destruction to communities coz of the rejection by elders after being warned..
*** Why God doesn't give a long life to all and take the life when they are infant or teen if in fact the intention of man's creation is to test him and judge based on that....That's why I created a topic "Sensing the Creator"
God claims He is the most merciful and fair in judgement... Judgement in this world and here after when it comes to His own decision... Such as destruction and natural death to kids..Our kindness is so weak and limited but God is 24/7... Watching at us constantly...
So there must have been a real reason why God did/does the above (***) to deserve ....
I will get back to the question anything lived before men and Jin in next reply...
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Peace All...
I am addressing all who commented above...If one claims confused rather than concerned and searching for truth then I don't think guidance and clarification would reach....
If you all who have concerns as you all have stated above.... Pls ponder this also.... If you can deduce it must probably you will resort for answers...
*** why Musa's teacher killed that innocent boy... Great prophet was kept silence after only one question....
*** Why God kills/ed children by His destruction to communities coz of the rejection by elders after being warned..
*** Why God doesn't give a long life to all and take the life when they are infant or teen if in fact the intention of man's creation is to test him and judge based on that....That's why I created a topic "Sensing the Creator"
God claims He is the most merciful and fair in judgement... Judgement in this world and here after when it comes to His own decision... Such as destruction and natural death to kids..Our kindness is so weak and limited but God is 24/7... Watching at us constantly...
So there must have been a real reason why God did/does the above (***) to deserve ....
I will get back to the question anything lived before men and Jin in next reply...
Exactly — we don’t know the answer and can possibly never know. We can only guess and make estimates.
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Exactly — we don’t know the answer and can possibly never know. We can only guess and make estimates.
Yes.. We can only estimate but within Quran and upon meditation on it and what's happening on earth..
..Anything lived before creation of Men and Jin...
For me.. No..
God explains He is not born and No beginning and No ending... So what He was doing untill He started creation using His power.. What prompted Him at certain point of time creating ...
What He created in total ? This earth and Heavens whatever between them.. Nothing else.. Coz that's what He claims He created.. Then only He strangely claims He opted to be in His Arsh (not created in my understanding as God is not created) .. Is there any value/point being a king without under Him anything to speak of... ?
As we know God claims He created Jin before human... And human were nothing to state at a point as of every human soul ...
But what about the soul of every creature... Everything has its life.. Even earth has soul it speaks even heaven or mountain or birds or trees or fire all...
He created this souls well before His physical kingdoms were created... But not ruller/Controller over them...For example God says He called the earth and heavens while it was smoke(heaven)... So who created that stage to be as smoke.. Then only He created the physical Earth and heavens as we see Now... God never says how He created that smoke stage or souls... In that smoke stage only it spoke and said we come willingly... Coz they knew the Master
So when we look at human for that matter, we all had souls before entering to physical body (if a soul is kind of thing that can be blown into then it has to be non physical thing ...same when it leaves the body ).... But God never gave anything for us to obey Him while souls.. We can obey Him if we willed.no punishment ..But we should have obeyed willingly.. Every soul was same... Nothing of a state to mention... But soul had freedom to choose like the earth and heavens had to choose.. But every soul knew that they were created... But to obey or Not to obey is its own decision... Like what earth and heavens did willingly ...Obeyed group and not obeyed group is well known to God....God gave enough time to be as mere souls before placing in bodies... Coz we, souls accepted God as our Lord and we collectively accepted the amanah as well... So wished to live away from souls merely in physical bodies which is better than mere souls..
Then God created everything step by step physically... Everything with PURPOSE.(key) not in VAIN .. He wanted to be King of what He created...after creating if No King?... Is that unfair? No... Deeply ponder..
....Further concern judging people for Hell....
That's also fair... How.. Let's look..
Do we have law in every country? Yes... What happens if we disobey?.. We have to go through the consequences accordingly mostly if found and verified guilty ... Is anyone ready to claim that it's so unfair that such and such being punished after they have violated law of a nation unless he is biased... Why it's fair.?.. Then Why not God's immaculate judgment on the day of ressurection is unfair with everything being purely recorded what we did in the past?... Is human so fair than God? ...
No creature is unaware of His creator.... As I said earlier in hell no one claims God is unfair not coz they are afraid to God.. No point of being afraid to God while in Hell, He won't increase the punishment for not obeying in hell.. Coz chapter closed... Coz body and soul will suffer as long He wills...What after that... After the judgment day.. Has He promised anything...if we are a continuation of the past of being in hell and heavens once upon a time then God would not have said First creation... We are the first and last... I mean Jin men and all creatures and earth and heavens are the first of His creations.. And probably last.
Further why Only Men and Jin are put to test... Why out of all His creatures, why Men and Jin only will be burned in Hell fire... While No other will face this horrible hell fire... Why Malaika (Jin) not put to test and then come back as deserved as good doers or bad ones..God says malaika live on earth we would have sent malaika messengers.. So they don't deserve to live on earth.. How they remained as good doers without being tested without being deserving to come to earth
.. Is this test really needed if it was not needed for malaika and all animals? One may wonder the life of malaika and animals are totally different... But that could be the nature of animals as per what they achieved as souls before physical creation as animal.. In fact most animals do suffer... But as per their souls before being an animal they deserve the life in this world as God created them but no more after death... That's their destiny... .. That's better than human who don't reform..Malika >>> No life on earth and no test to verify their true character but living peacefully ever obedient.. Only dies most of them when trumpet is blown and will be ressurected and will remain same... Since their souls ever obedient Not required to put in test... They are beyond human nature...
Animal >>> had soul and placed on earth as animals will go through enjoyment and suffer and with death they are no more.. And not put in hell...
Earth and Heavens (except malaika, lowly jins Humana and all animals) >>>> all these will be destroyed and never will be questioned and never will have rebirth.. .. But God will create anew better than them...
Human and other lowly Jins which were ousted from Janna with Adam >>>> had soul but never obeyed God with serious intent.. (great example of iblees and Adam while physical creature.. Disobeyed God iblees and Adam followed iblees's gang) such way was never with malaika... So they were ousted from test but brought near to God...
But God definitely know that if these human souls were given a physical life some would come out of it and reform... But it's not necessary that God should give them all the life for them to reform...its a kind of continuous process of being mere soul to physical body plus soul so they are given life ... So in this life if we reform our earlier status while we were souls we can succeed... And be close to God and of malaika... But there are who don't get the opportunity even to reform.. Example who die early as a child.. That has to be worst of souls to deserve to be destroyed while in baby or hardly a kid.. Without even giving an opportunity to reform.. God knows they won't.. Also those whose hearts are sealed. Without even God let them to grasp.. Coz God knows they won't reform.. Or those even you warn or not warn they won't reform... So this test is only meaningful for those who reform... Honestly ask to yourself is there any meaning testing a human while his heart is sealed? So God doesn't need to test all with full quota of life.. They are already gone far away from reforming ... Unfortunately so in God's real Kingdom I mean after resurrection there will be men and Jin will suffer being the only two creatures who deserve it...Note we were never in any other form of creatures before our physical life here.. That's super bizzare claim... Coz God said to Malaika that He is going to create Man and not said instead He is gonna replace a creature as Human.. And God claims He taught everything to Adam before and prior to that even Malaika didn't know about it.. So all began ... while soul we are limited. But after teaching in physical body we are advanced..
These are Mercy from God which we used to deny while enjoying them... That King doesn't accept...
Point to ponder is If a soul before physical birth is not pure then God can never give this word to Maryam in 345 .. Coz God gave this word well before Isa was conceived in Markham's womb.. So which soul to place is already decided and soul didn't become good but already good... That's why God promised what He promised..
Souls before physical birth are under this category.. Good, average or on the verge of wrong and the ones who never reforming bad ones.. They all get physical life But not necessary for the fourth category full life or even a life.. They won't change.. Suppose.. Will there not be billions of children who would die when the trumpet is blown..
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As humans who may end up in hell it hurts us — especially when we see some people who really struggle with some problems that may very well be beyond their control. It’s very easy to say that it’s human choice to go towards heaven and hell. In reality, though, there are lots of factors affecting choices.
I look at my cousin he’s bipolar with a narcissistic personality disorder. Some choices are out of his control while others can be made better by work. Either way, he’s not fully his free will sometimes.
That said, I genuinely believe that we don’t understand God and the world’s reality.I agree
Peace
If God is infinite, does that mean that there were an infinity of creation even before us? It's so hard to understand or grasp. Or are humans and jinn the first creation of its kind?
Dunno
Also, why did God decide to make most humans for hell because it is mentioned that if God willed, everyone would have been a believer.
hmmm don't know that either.
To me, it's so depressing to know that most people are not for heaven.
Here the tire meets the road, submission is a better option than depression.
Allah is the almighty, there is no escaping the fact that our emotional response
to reality cannot supersede the reality of God's creation. "Like a man falling
falling from a height into the mouth of a volcano, his opinion does not matters".That it would most likely include all my loved ones. It's depressing. Sometimes I think of it as sadistic but then I think maybe there is a greater reason because God didn't make most people for hell to entertain Himself. Maybe if most people were good and believers we wouldn't learn much? Maybe we first need to learn about human psychology before entering the hereafter?
We don't know who goes where after death, that is the unseen.
I honestly do not understand why God CHOSE to make most people unbelievers- worthy of hell and then most of the quran is warning us not to be or become like them. And it also disapproves of them. Is angry at them for being rejecters but couldn't God EASILY just solve this problem by CHOOSING to make everyone a believer?
Do you really understand who is destined for hell? Have you found out who is a
non-believer? Can we be definitive with regards to the unseen?God bless you
peace
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Are we assuming this is our first life?
Qoran indicates otherwise.
This may be our first time as humans, but we existed in a past life. as other creatures. What? Where? We do not recall. We are reminded in Qoran about the past life-Wa Lakad Alimtumu Al Nashata Al Oula, Afala Tadhakaroon?
Also -Kuntum Amwatan Fahyakum Thumma Yumitukum...
i.e we were dead before we were created as humans can only mean that we existed before.
We have chosen to come back as humans and accepted the Amana-Responsibility to live as humans- Why? When?
GOD bless .
Peace.Peace Good logic,
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Has there come upon man a period of time when he was not a thing mentioned? 761 -
and why are most people made for hell?
No they don't it's a lie that you are being fed with.
Eventually everything (and everyone) will came out of their own 'hell'.Suffering is merely a perception, once it is realized that it's merely a perception, the suffering ends.
If God is infinite, does that mean that there were an infinity of creation even before us?
Who are US in your statement above? Thus who are also THEM in your question above?
I honestly do not understand why God CHOSE to make most people unbelievers- worthy of hell and then most of the quran is warning us not to be or become like them. And it also disapproves of them. Is angry at them for being rejecters but couldn't God EASILY just solve this problem by CHOOSING to make everyone a believer?
Weird isn't it ?
God gets angry. God has enemies, God get frustrated, God faced problems, God who lose control over it's own design and creation.
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No they don't it's a lie that you are being fed with.
Eventually everything (and everyone) will came out of their own 'hell'.Suffering is merely a perception, once it is realized that it's merely a perception, the suffering ends.
Who are US in your statement above? Thus who are also THEM in your question above?
Weird isn't it ?
God gets angry. God has enemies, God get frustrated, God faced problems, God who lose control over it's own design and creation.
To me the above characteristics sounds like a fake God, a pretender to be God.Your intention is pretty clear in this forum... You can entice people to divert from their belief to another... It's all up to them to get deceived to people like you or keep away those deceptive corrupted minds who is first of lost their path.. ... As long as you are allowed to utter your view on this forum you may... But intent is pretty weird... You will only end up as a loser if you go after people in this manner...
If God is fake and his book is fake and everything is lie then what is truth... From where you get the truth and which book and who is the author of it and from where it originated...
I wonder how you became the wise and burned out by promoting such things in a forum fundamentally for Quran alone...
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Peace jkhan.
I am sure you are aware that as a believer, you know the following
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You will see, and they will see.
فَسَتُبصِرُ وَيُبصِرونَ
686
Which of you are condemned.
بِأَييِكُمُ المَفتونُ
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Your Lord is fully aware of those who strayed off His path, and He is fully aware of those who are guided.
إِنَّ رَبَّكَ هُوَ أَعلَمُ بِمَن ضَلَّ عَن سَبيلِهِ وَهُوَ أَعلَمُ بِالمُهتَدينَ
As believers we should not worry or condemn but invite to GOD with hope for all humans that they will reflect and choose GOD s way and mercy
Also as believers we must heed these instructions
688
Do not obey the rejectors.
فَلا تُطِعِ المُكَذِّبينَ
689
They wish that you compromise, so they too can compromise.
وَدّوا لَو تُدهِنُ فَيُدهِنونَ
The rejector !!!!
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When our revelations are recited to him, he says, "Tales from the past!"
إِذا تُتلىٰ عَلَيهِ ءايٰتُنا قالَ أَسٰطيرُ الأَوَّلينَ
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It is enough for the believers that GOD is fully aware of all the intentions of His Ibad.
I am addressing you with friendship and good intention as a brother and a believer. Keep up your good loyalty and invitation to the Lord.
May the Lord help us deliver the true GOD Alone message. Absolutely no fake or illusion in this clear message of the Lord of the universe.
GOD bless you.
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Peace jkhan.
I am sure you are aware that as a believer, you know the following
685
You will see, and they will see.
فَسَتُبصِرُ وَيُبصِرونَ
686
Which of you are condemned.
بِأَييِكُمُ المَفتونُ
687
Your Lord is fully aware of those who strayed off His path, and He is fully aware of those who are guided.
إِنَّ رَبَّكَ هُوَ أَعلَمُ بِمَن ضَلَّ عَن سَبيلِهِ وَهُوَ أَعلَمُ بِالمُهتَدينَ
As believers we should not worry or condemn but invite to GOD with hope for all humans that they will reflect and choose GOD s way and mercy
Also as believers we must heed these instructions
688
Do not obey the rejectors.
فَلا تُطِعِ المُكَذِّبينَ
689
They wish that you compromise, so they too can compromise.
وَدّوا لَو تُدهِنُ فَيُدهِنونَ
The rejector !!!!
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When our revelations are recited to him, he says, "Tales from the past!"
إِذا تُتلىٰ عَلَيهِ ءايٰتُنا قالَ أَسٰطيرُ الأَوَّلينَ
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It is enough for the believers that GOD is fully aware of all the intentions of His Ibad.
I am addressing you with friendship and good intention as a brother and a believer. Keep up your good loyalty and invitation to the Lord.
May the Lord help us deliver the true GOD Alone message. Absolutely no fake or illusion in this clear message of the Lord of the universe.
GOD bless you.
Peace.Peace GL..
If you read my response carefully you can read my mind with tone.. I am not worried or condemning him... Only thing I will speak against when things are manifestly wrong only within Quran... ...
I only worry about believers.. That's my motto... But I will always worry for himanity... We are human whatever the belief we practice. I won't give priority to believers only when it comes to humanity...
But I am not someone who will be silent when someone's intention is to wittingly divert the believers with sick mentality... Speak your own religions whatever it is proudly and bring to debate... No harm.. Who wants to stop. That's freedom and people learn... But targeting another's belief is sickness in hearts without pointing the error... ..This is free minds forum and open topics of your belief and invite people to debate... That's professionalism... Rather than targeting with hide and play... Believers debate for their own clarification not to target others...
Dear Jafar Open your topic and your belief.. I will in sha Allah respond... Then you will find how weak your belief away from true God... That's a challenge if you want to take up...
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I agree and wish you well.
GOD bless you brother.
Peace.
