Can someone refute this?
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Sorry bring up old topic again but anyone else would like to respond? Wakas? Noon? I am interested on this Argument from Design and a lot of atheists dont seem to like it.
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Oh, I am watching the video for the first time. It doesn't apply to us though.
235 Who designed the designer?
Who created the energy that cannot be created or destroyed? First law of thermodynamics is so theistic.Is this where we are going now?
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Salam/Peace dear sister Reel
This question of "who designed the designer" made by atheists seems to use a trap called special pleading fallacy when we monotheists say Allah/The God (SWTAY) is Eternal.
Here is a post in that blogspot i linked earlier
https//debunkingatheistrepublic.blogspot.com/2019/07/debunking-common-atheists-arguments.html
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Would love to hear responses, point by point like sister Reel here.
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Salam/Peace dear sister Reel
This question of "who designed the designer" made by atheists seems to use a trap called special pleading fallacy when we monotheists say Allah/The God (SWTAY) is Eternal.
Here is a post in that blogspot i linked earlier
https//debunkingatheistrepublic.blogspot.com/2019/07/debunking-common-atheists-arguments.html
Forgot to say couple of days ago I found a hadith in which Bukhari talks about atheists asking who created god.In short, the question has been around for centuries.
And yep, in all major religions including hinduism, it is understood that God has no beginning and ending. Then you have this first law of thermodynamics saying energy cannot be created (same as no beginning) or destroyed (same as no ending). The video is useless.
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In the description, she claimed that the Argument from Design has "flaws". I wonder if someone has a response towards it. A lot of atheists do not like that argument and make claims of design "flaws".
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In the description, she claimed that the Argument from Design has "flaws". I wonder if someone has a response towards it. A lot of atheists do not like that argument and make claims of design "flaws".
Honestly, I'm not a fan of the idea that argument from design proves existence of God. The writings I see simply are all about appreciating his work and that’s an emotional thing (hormones at work). Also they seem to all end it with “this couldn’t have been done without the help of some intelligent being”. Then what? No answer. Just like atheists, I get annoyed by that also.
But at the same time it is weird for atheists to claim that natural selection proves he is nonexistent. Why can’t he intentionally introduce the process in us? Maybe Christians say that can’t be true. I’m not sure.
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Peace The sardar.
This is a question of comparison/relative things/beings/designers...etc,quote"This question of "who designed the designer" made by atheists seems to use a trap called special pleading fallacy..."
So let us assume this goes on and on...Where does it end? i.e what is the start of the chain?
All these designers that are supposedly created are relative to each other, one can compare them,rate them...
The origin ,starting point,beguinning of everything has to start with an absolute designer. The emphasis of "Unique, First and Last and The only one". i.e the Everliving, Designer/GOD...Creator of everything that exist,if everything disappears/goes away. He remains .
So GOD Alone. the absolute one, starts and ends phases of any creation. All creation is relative, GOD is the only absolute being.
That is the main argument of why GOD is one, always was and always will be.
Can I prove it?
Well, it is the only answer to the chain of who created GOD?
Unless one wants to be illogical and presumes the question is ongoing for ever?!!! Then they need to realise that without an absolute one ,nothing would have existed at all! Some origin to all this will be required?
GOD bless you.
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Can I prove it?
Well, it is the only answer to the chain of who created GOD?
Unless one wants to be illogical and presumes the question is ongoing for ever?!!! Then they need to realise that without an absolute one ,nothing would have existed at all! Some origin to all this will be required?
GOD bless you.
Peace.This reminds me of a another article of the blogpost that i checked out https//debunkingatheistrepublic.blogspot.com/2019/07/refuting-polytheism.html
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Yes brother, There is no one that can ask GOD about what He does and why He does it.
"La Yusalu Amma Yafalu Wa Hum Yusaloon".
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Such is the creation of God; show me what the idols you set up beside Him have created. Indeed, the transgressors are far astray.
هٰذا خَلقُ اللَّهِ فَأَرونى ماذا خَلَقَ الَّذينَ مِن دونِهِ بَلِ الظّٰلِمونَ فى ضَلٰلٍ مُبينٍAnyway brother, thanks and do not worry too much
As for those who disbelieve, do not be saddened by their disbelief. To us is their ultimate return, then we will inform them of everything they had done. God is fully aware of the innermost thoughts.
وَمَن كَفَرَ فَلا يَحزُنكَ كُفرُهُ إِلَينا مَرجِعُهُم فَنُنَبِّئُهُم بِما عَمِلوا إِنَّ اللَّهَ عَليمٌ بِذاتِ الصُّدورِLet them enjoy for a while, meanwhile
GOD bless you.
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This might be off-topic but it does involve hatred against Monotheism but i did share something with sister Reel about how atheists and polytheists sometimes cooperating on reddit, attacking monotheism. If you wish, i could make a post about requesting a response towards these claims?
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Peace The Sardar.
Thanks brother. I do not bother with such sites.
But you do what you wish for you. I pass.
GOD bless you.
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Honestly, I'm not a fan of the idea that argument from design proves existence of God. The writings I see simply are all about appreciating his work and that’s an emotional thing (hormones at work). Also they seem to all end it with “this couldn’t have been done without the help of some intelligent being”. Then what? No answer. Just like atheists, I get annoyed by that also.
But at the same time it is weird for atheists to claim that natural selection proves he is nonexistent. Why can’t he intentionally introduce the process in us? Maybe Christians say that can’t be true. I’m not sure.
I really don't understand either how natural laws "dismisses" The Creator (SWTAY), the question arises then how was the natural laws set?
Plus sister Reel, what do you think of the video? You stated that you began watching it. What else are your responses after your first reply
Oh, I am watching the video for the first time. It doesn't apply to us though.
Who created the energy that cannot be created or destroyed? First law of thermodynamics is so theistic.Is this where we are going now?
I should have asked though, how does this not apply to us? Just curious.
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It's alright dear sister. I can wait for your answer )
Plus i would like to hear more on your thoughts on the design argument. Your comment did caught my eye on this so would love to know more on your view on the argument from design.
