Honestly This topic is leading me to disbelieve
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Peace good logic….
i know God granted everything for us…. My question was something elsei write it again Peace Good logic… didnt God granted the prophet wives to him? Why God wanted to choose payed their dowries to them for azwaj…. And God granted to you(or gived too you as a booty/captive of war) for MMA?
Why God choosed this words type of words to mislead 99% of translators and 99% of people? Why God didnt used افاء الله علیک for both azwaj and mma? Or vice versa(i mean Why God didnt used different words for azwaj and mma after mentioning them)
Peace wakas
From the same verses that you mentioned in study quran
Sex
conception and pregnancy (see Pregnancy)
consort with wives in a goodly manner 419
don't force female slaves into prostitution 2433
during Ramadhan 2187
is what your spouse is for, so do it! 2187, 2222-223
with slaves is legal 236, 3350, 3352, 7030 (alternate interpretation)(i noticed i wrongly writed sex with captured enemy women… captives must be released…. But anyway the problem isnt solved….. i change Go capture enemy women and have sex with them….. i am trying tooooo hard to prove that quran dont say such things…. But i am failed —-> Go buy female slavesand have sex with them(or have sex with uour already owned slaves)i am trying tooooo hard to prove that quran dont say such things…. But i am failed)
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Free-Minds has turned into a bizarre amusement factory.
Fornication is illegal in Islam as Green Anarchism has pointed out.
(you can't make this stuff up!)
Another person actually cares about how old was Noah. wow
Then there's another member on a bash Muhammad tirade. rotflHow about what the Quran offers
In the name of Allah the Yielder the Merciful
Major Commandments
You shall not set up any other god beside GOD, lest you end up despised and disgraced.
Your Lord has decreed that you shall not worship except Him, and your parents shall be honored. As long as one or both of them live, you shall never say to them, "Uff" (the slightest gesture of annoyance), nor shall you shout at them; you shall treat them amicably.
And lower for them the wings of humility, and kindness, and say, "My Lord, have mercy on them, for they have raised me from infancy."
Your Lord is fully aware of your innermost thoughts. If you maintain righteousness, He is Forgiver of those who repent.
You shall give the due alms to the relatives, the needy, the poor, and the traveling alien, but do not be excessive, extravagant.
The extravagant are brethren of the devils, and the devil is unappreciative of his Lord.
Even if you have to turn away from them, as you pursue the mercy of your Lord, you shall treat them in the nicest manner.
Stinginess Condemned
You shall not keep your hand stingily tied to your neck, nor shall you foolishly open it up, lest you end up blamed and sorry.
For your Lord increases the provision for anyone He chooses, and reduces it. He is fully Cognizant of His creatures, Seer.
Abortion is Murder
You shall not kill your children due to fear of poverty. We provide for them, as well as for you. Killing them is a gross offense.
You shall not commit adultery; it is a gross sin, and an evil behavior.
You shall not kill any person-for GOD has made life sacred-except in the course of justice. If one is killed unjustly, then we give his heir authority to enforce justice. Thus, he shall not exceed the limits in avenging the murder, he will be helped.
You shall not touch the orphans' money except for their own good, until they reach maturity. You shall fulfill your covenants, for a covenant is a great responsibility.
You shall give full measure when you trade, and weigh equitably. This is better and more righteous.
Crucial Advice
You shall not accept any information, unless you verify it for yourself. I have given you the hearing, the eyesight, and the brain, and you are responsible for using them.
You shall not walk proudly on earth -you cannot bore through the earth, nor can you be as tall as the mountains.
All bad behavior is condemned by your Lord.
Quran Is Wisdom
This is some of the wisdom inspired to you by your Lord. You shall not set up another god beside GOD, lest you end up in Gehenna, blamed and defeated.
Has your Lord given you boys, while giving Himself the angels as daughters?! How could you utter such a blasphemy?
We have cited in this Quran (all kinds of examples), that they may take heed. But it only augments their aversion.
Say, "If there were any other gods beside Him, as they claim, they would have tried to overthrow the Possessor of the throne."
Be He glorified, He is much too exalted, far above their utterances.
Everything Glorifies God
Glorifying Him are the seven universes, the earth, and everyone in them. There is nothing that does not glorify Him, but you do not understand their glorification. He is Clement, Forgiver.
Disbelievers Cannot Understand Quran
When you read the Quran, we place between you and those who do not believe in the Hereafter an invisible barrier.
Quran The ONLY Source
We place shields around their minds, to prevent them from understanding it, and deafness in their ears. And when you preach your Lord, using the Quran alone,* they run away in aversion.
May Allah guide us all.
peace
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there is no such thing, show me the verses? facts, there is nothing wrong with the Quran... it's just you, with your story rotfl
Brother… where i said you cant marry slaves…. Yes 424 ans 425 say you can marry with your slaves….. its just an option… i mean where Quran said you cant have sex with them when 235-6 3350 and 3352 looks like than you can have sex with them? As they are seperated from azwaj/wives
Even the brother wakas have said at study quranSex with slaves is legal 236, 3350, 3352, 7030 (alternate interpretation)
Brother hawk u said You shall not accept any information, unless you verify it for yourself. I have given you the hearing, the eyesight, and the brain, and you are responsible for using them.
i said i am trying to convince my self that sex with slave is forbidden, but i failed
May God help me
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Verses 236, 3350, 3352, 7030 saying such things? nonsense... read again rotfl
Do you believe in one part of the Book and deny another part of it? (285)
You who have iman! enter Islam totally. Do not follow in the footsteps of Shaytan. He is an outright enemy to you. (220
and bring your verses to invalidate the following verse
MAJOR PREMISE
ELSE it is not from Allah, verse 482 and "Among them is a group who distort the Book with their tongues so that you think it is from the Book when it is not from the Book. They say, ´It is from Allah,´ but it is not from Allah. They tell a lie against Allah and they know it. (37" This is not the utterance of an accursed devil (8125)
What verse?
Brother can you answer this questions to me?
1-why in 7030 mma are seperated from wives
(Doesnt this verse say that you can have sex with wives او mma s?)2-what about 3350?! Especially last part of it
(We have already decreed their rights in regard to their spouses and their mma s ) -
except from their spouses and from those whom their right hands hold in trust, are free of blame. (7030)
O Prophet! We have made halal for you your wives to whom you have given dowries and any slavegirls you own from the booty Allah has allotted you and the daughters of your paternal uncles and the daughters of your paternal aunts and the daughters of your maternal uncles and the daughters of your maternal aunts who have made hijra with you and any mumin woman who gives herself to the Prophet if the Prophet desires to marry her exclusively for you as opposed to the rest of the muminun — We know very well what We have prescribed for them regarding their wives and any slavegirls they possess — in order that there be no restriction on you. Allah is Ever-Forgiving, Most Merciful. (3350)
Where does the above invalidate what's haram from the Quran?
Which part does it say fornication is halal, and rule out the following verses (link)?
https//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9611550.msg434768#msg434768
7030 says u can have sex with those whom their right hands hold in trust , doesnt it? They are not wives, you agree?
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Where is the word "sex"?
It just says "halal/lawful", ie. for marriage..
https//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9611550.msg434768#msg434768
show me the word "making sex"... which part of it?
7029 وَالَّذِينَ هُمْ لِفُرُوجِهِمْ حَافِظُونَ
What does it mean?? Lawful for marriage!!?
Those who only marries to their wives and mma s???
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Allah talk about "sex" or "marriage"?
Go through the whole Quran and show me the word "sex/making sex"... rotfl
all i know the topic is about "marriage"... ie. CONTRACT OF MARRIAGE.
This is the Quran, not the BIBLE... lol
Bro…….. you translate this two verse as this?
وَالَّذِينَ(those) هُمْ لِفُرُوجِهِمْ حَافِظُونَ(doesnt sign contract of marriage)
إِلَّا عَلَىٰ (except) أَزْوَاجِهِمْ(with their wives) أَوْ مَا مَلَكَتْ أَيْمَانُهُمْ (or their ma malakat aymanuhum)
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Its limiting A to only two categories brother… if its about marruage then someone only can marry with his wife(LoL) and his mma
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Do you understand what this ayat is saying?
"have prescribed for them regarding"
Bro you are mentioning 3350 but i am talking about 7029-30
Editmentioning them that for normal muslims all of the Ma malakat aymanuhum is halal/ but for prophet only ma malakat who he has gained from war or مما افاء الله علیک
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"Slavegirls" does not mean "fornication"... you have a dirty mind? rotfl
https//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9611550.msg434768#msg434768
7029 And those who their modesty (are) guardians,
7030 Except from their spouses or what they possess rightfully then indeed, they (are) not blameworthy,
7031 But whoever seeks beyond that, then those (are) the transgressors -Good…
Can you explain what is Guarding modesty? Thanks
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Yes, Allah has already prescribed for them...
you expect Allah must repeat the same words through the whole Quran, just to entertain your dirty mind? rotfl
Brother you dont know what you say…..
What is this verse about!!!???? Having sex? So someone can have sex with his mma
Marrying??? Then someone can marry his wife (LoL) if its about marriage…. Why God may say those who dont marry , save with their wives and mma s
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Where is the word "sex"?
It just says "halal/lawful", ie. for marriage..
https//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9611550.msg434768#msg434768
show me the word "making sex"... which part of it?
U said 7029-30 is about marriage….
So one person can only marry with his wife and mma!!!
الا limit the options to only these two!
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Then show me it is not; with consistent interpretation/ 482 RULE! ... no point you're insisting on your wishful thinking...
How? Why? What verse to invalidate all those rules?
What makes "slavegirls" means "fornication"? What verse? dictionary? rotfl
I didnt say slavegirls means fornication….
But this verse say u must guard your فروج
Execpt to your wife and slave girl
What does it mean?! -
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GUARD = AVOID = "DO NOT GO NEAR TO FORNICATION"... go open your dictionary rotfl
https//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9611550.msg434768#msg434768
LoL….
So this verse say dont go near fornication….
But u can have fornication with your wife and slave!!(according to your translation)