Rituals Prayers Methods - how to perform

tlihawa

Salam Iyyaka,

Peace,

reread the textual context of verse 9 by linking it to verses 10 and 11 and you will easily see that your understanding (in bold above) is false

O ye who had faith! When the call is proclaimed to the ritual Prayer on the Day of Assembly/gathering, hasten earnestly to the Remembrance of Allah, and leave off business (and traffic) That is best for you if ye but knew!
And when the ritual Prayer is finished, then may ye disperse through the land, and seek of the Bounty of Allah and remember Allah frequently that ye may prosper.
But when they see some bargain or some pastime, they disperse headlong to it, and leave thee standing. Say "That which Allah has is better than any pastime or bargain! and Allah is the Best to provide (for all needs)."

I've read all that, and I know exactly what I believe.

I respect Brother Fusion for asking about ritual prayers, and won't make this thread stray any further than he intended to ask.

Maybe you can explain further to him how about THE CONGREGATIONAL DAY,

How do you do the ritual?
How do you set the time? On what day? and others you think might useful for him.

Peace

Iyyaka

tlihawa, salam aleykoum wa rahmatoullah,

I've read all that, and I know exactly what I believe.

Ok so you prefer your belief rather than the reality and the textual fact.
I respect your choice and indeed, I have nothing to add to that

Maybe you can explain further to him how about THE CONGREGATIONAL DAY,
How do you do the ritual?
How do you set the time? On what day? and others you think might useful for him.

From the Quran AND Sura 62 we can know only 3 things about this ritual prayer

The recitation of the Quran (622) is a central element of this ritual prayer and this recitation is done standing (6211).
It is done on a weekday (629) => call/nūdiya to the community of believers to gather collectively.
The timing it cannot be in the evening because it is said in (6210) "you shall disperse through the land and seek the provisions of God" => Theme of trade.
And that's all. The rest is history, like the name of the inviolable months (known by the primary audience)

But if you expect to have all the details of this practice in the Quran, then I understand better why you feel compelled to distort the expression "yawmi l-jumuʿati" from its original meaning in this verse.
But, unfortunately, your understanding of this expression makes the text incomprehensible when you take verses 9,10 and 11 together.
Or, please feel free to explain how you understand what i put in bold from the verse 10 in my last post.

Peace.

Fusion

Dear All,

Many thanks to all those who reply and I am learning a lot. Let me tell you my fear.

So many Muslims offering ritual prayers for so many centuries, Azaan -call to prayer has been going on around the same time from minarets, Do we consider ALL OF THEM to be on the wrong side of God's Alone message? What if they are right 50%, that means I might be committing sin by not offering the must daily prayer?

Yes if someone tells me 100% of I know for sure say God ordered me to pray 10 times as ritual, I will do so. it's the uncertainty that kills me and I ask questions like Quran mentions Ablution but omit prayer (no one explained the actual context meaning of ablution verses then?)

In short, I started my journey as a Sunni Muslim into reading Quran alone and thinking that most of the hadiths are not possibly true but violent and cant be taken equal to Quran. And now being more lost than before? I do not pray like I used to before and If I pray I do not utter some words (like in tashhud, to Ale Rasol and Al Ibrahim) and I do not go to the mosque anymore, because I see many ills in common Muslims and I feel ni different in em going to a mosque or non-Muslims going to church or temples. because everyone is seeking god via vasta i.e through some path or a person and indulges with non-essential issues like where to put hands, who is right , must choose from 4 mazahib etc etc

Cheers

hawk99

. One other thing that puzzles is why the Quran provides detailed steps of ablution and not prayer ritual?

Thanks

Peace Fusion, lets agree first on our understanding of the word salat.

Sad-Lam-waw = prayer, supplication, petition, oration, eulogy, benediction, commendation, blessing, honor, magnify, bring forth, follow closely, walk/follow behind closely, to remain attached.
In a horse race when the second horse follows the first one so closely that its head always overlaps the first horse’s body that horse is called AL-MUSSALLI (i.e. the one who follows closely / remains attached).
Central portion of the back, portion from where the tail of an animal comes out, the rump.

Mussalli is an Arabic name for boys that means “one who prays”, “one who performs the Salah prayer”.

So maybe you'll agree that the purpose of salat is to be in contact with our lord.
Based on the definition do you agree that the ways we contact our lord varies?

peace

Emre_1974tr

IN THE QURAN PRAYER, FASTING, HAC AND ZAKAT (With machine translation from the book "Religion in the Quran" written in Turkish)

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Quran giving all details...

Jafar

So maybe you'll agree that the purpose of salat is to be in contact with our lord.
Based on the definition do you agree that the ways we contact our lord varies?

There is a certain generic framework that we can follow.
Start with WHY and WHAT before going into the details of HOW or even WHEN.

From WHAT I would concur that indeed, it's making a 'connection'.

As for WHY, it's because the figure that you see in the mirror are temporary, so better make a connection to that who will survive even after the figure has become dysfunctional or dead.

Then HOW, there are variety of method.

One that intrigue me at the moment is the method of 'silencing one's mind', as the 'noisy mind' is part of that which will not survive death. If one try to silence the mind, one will find that the mind will not shut up, it will keep on thinking or saying things, like in the loop. One will then come into a realization of who is this person inside my mind that would not shut up although I have told him/her to shut up. The one who ordered the mind to shut up, is the one who will survive (physical) death. Some people named it as the 'divinity within'.

Iyyaka

One that intrigue me at the moment is the method of 'silencing one's mind', as the 'noisy mind' is part of that which will not survive death. If one try to silence the mind, one will find that the mind will not shut up, it will keep on thinking or saying things, like in the loop. One will then come into a realization of who is this person inside my mind that would not shut up although I have told him/her to shut up. The one who ordered the mind to shut up, is the one who will survive (physical) death. Some people named it as the 'divinity within'.

Peace,
I think that in meditation you can calm your mind or concentrate on an object/practice, but I don't think you can stop totally and durably the thoughts.
The goal is to not let yourself be captured by these thoughts without any positive or negative preconceived ideas about them (very hard..)
This is my modest contribution to my experience of meditation or what the experienced people have said about it.

Jafar

Peace,
I think that in meditation you can calm your mind or concentrate on an object/practice, but I don't think you can stop totally and durably the thoughts.
The goal is to not let yourself be captured by these thoughts without any positive or negative preconceived ideas about them (very hard..)
This is my modest contribution to my experience of meditation or what the experienced people have said about it.

The awareness that the mind is NOT ME (slight dis-identification with the mind) and also the attempt itself can be considered as a big progress.
Another trick is to count the words that appear in the mind.
Once attempted the mind will then be silent, as it's the one who do the counting.
The counting will be 0 until you release the mind to focus towards something else.

amin

Peace Fusion, lets agree first on our understanding of the word salat.

Sad-Lam-waw = prayer, supplication, petition, oration, eulogy, benediction, commendation, blessing, honor, magnify, bring forth, follow closely, walk/follow behind closely, to remain attached.
In a horse race when the second horse follows the first one so closely that its head always overlaps the first horse’s body that horse is called AL-MUSSALLI (i.e. the one who follows closely / remains attached).
Central portion of the back, portion from where the tail of an animal comes out, the rump.

Mussalli is an Arabic name for boys that means “one who prays”, “one who performs the Salah prayer”.

So maybe you'll agree that the purpose of salat is to be in contact with our lord.
Based on the definition do you agree that the ways we contact our lord varies?

peace

Can we say Connecting or contacting God in a more affectionate way, like those with whom we have good relationship, with the praising verses about God, with the sujud/prostration act and with the mindset to do good for the cause of God.

Quran says one should be constant in their prayers, assigns specific timings, with mind and body cleaned, with commitment to the verses read, not for ritual sake of participating and with the commitment to serve goodness/give zakat.

In multiple verses of Quran, Establishing Salat and giving Zakat or spending from the blessings, is emphasized as one of the primary requirements,those who does these need not have any fear, so i think the ritual part is not important, but result of that is something great and primary requirement to be with everyone.

Some sufis and other cultures do dancing and singing praising their God and this can also be considered to be another form of salat?

Euphoric

I hope i have tried to explained my point to certain extent. My question is if there is any room for perfoming rituals being a Muslim, then how do you guys perform? from quranic aspect only? No of times, how many rakat, what to say? steps etc? or you just stand and indulge in Qayam rku and sujod and say what ever you want? in which case how is the concept of congressional prayer is explained because that should be conducted in a specific mannger to show the unity and symmetry.

Thank you

Regards

Salaamun alaikum,

In my research, there is a ritual called as-Salah, especially when it is in conjunction with "Aqeem". Not only do the predominant different Islamic sects agree, including the Ibadiyya, other religions have similar rituals also. That is one way to see it it is not some conspiracy people held together, even though we are talking about Quran I just wanted to point that out.

The common physical actions found with nearly all religions, including Islam, are standing, bowing, kneeling and prostrating. While doing these acts, there are hymns being recited or at least some form of thoughts and connections being made. Different sects disagree on other things such as raising hands, what to recite, how to recover from missed timings...But all agree at least on standing, bowing, kneeling and prostrating.

Even if these turned out to be incorrect, it does not harm since the purpose is to remember Allah.

It is something to think about.

hawk99

In multiple verses of Quran, Establishing Salat and giving Zakat or spending from the blessings, is emphasized as one of the primary requirements, those who does these need not have any fear, so i think the ritual part is not important, but result of that is something great and primary requirement to be with everyone.

Peace amin,

I agree that contact with Allah is primary no matter how that contact is made.
I also agree that zakat is a functional proof of such contact.
but contrarily I would say that physical ritual is important for community sake.

as you illustrate here

Some sufis and other cultures do dancing and singing praising their God and this can also be considered to be another form of salat?

In the creation of the heavens and the earth, and the alternation of night and
day, there are signs for those who possess intelligence.

They remember GOD* while standing, sitting, and on their sides, and they
reflect upon the creation of the heavens and the earth "Our Lord, You did not create
all this in vain. Be You glorified. Save us from the retribution of Hell. (negativity)

Salaamun alaikum,

In my research, there is a ritual called as-Salah, especially when it is in conjunction with "Aqeem". Not only do the predominant different Islamic sects agree, including the Ibadiyya, other religions have similar rituals also. That is one way to see it it is not some conspiracy people held together, even though we are talking about Quran I just wanted to point that out.

The common physical actions found with nearly all religions, including Islam, are standing, bowing, kneeling and prostrating. While doing these acts, there are hymns being recited or at least some form of thoughts and connections being made. Different sects disagree on other things such as raising hands, what to recite, how to recover from missed timings...But all agree at least on standing, bowing, kneeling and prostrating.

Even if these turned out to be incorrect, it does not harm since the purpose is to remember Allah.

It is something to think about.

Yes it is a great physical ritual tradition and may I add good for the body!

good_logic

Peace All.

Are some saying with certainty that Qoran does not instruct and encourage "the Salat" as a "contact prayer"? The same Salat practised by generations since Abraham?
I have seen many cut/ignore/hide verses that clearly define and make clear that "the salat" is a private connection prayer session with GOD instructed with the word "Aquim/i/u...The Salat". A specific time to connect with GOD to "feed the soul" in preparation for the hereafter.

Of course the minimum requirement for salvation is believe in GOD , accountability and good deeds. But there are other disciplines also available to believers if they want to grow their soul more and become closer to GOD s standard of "Mukarrabeen".like the Salat, Sawm. Zakat....
Just like feeding and looking after your body with nutritious food, exercise, play time,sports,cosmetics...etc, your soul also needs nutrition to grow in readiness for the next life in GOD s kingdom.
As well as good deeds. good morals,kindness, the Salat, Sawm ,Zakat ...are also food for the soul.The real person .
Qoran encourages "ouli Al Albab" to look after the soul as a priority and offers added nutrition to help the soul potential achieve the best growth.
Coming back to the Salat, here is the aim

No soul can carry the sins of another soul. If a soul that is loaded with sins implores another to bear part of its load, no other soul can carry any part of it, even if they were related. The only people to heed your warnings are those who reverence their Lord, even when alone in their privacy, and observe the Salat. Whoever purifies his soul, does so for his own good. To God is the final destiny.

How can one be so sure there is no "CONTACT PRAYER" instructed in Qoran?
it is another benefit to the soul.
So what does Qoran really say about the Salat? What is it exactly? Is it a specific, consistent , known by all and practical thing? Or is it something that is vague and has many different interpretations and views?
Anyway, it is up to folks to make sure according to their study of Qoran.

To your Lord is the ultimate destiny.
Have you seen the one who enjoins./discourages
Other/s from "Salla"-praying.
Is it not better for him to follow the guidance?
Or advocate righteousness?
If he disbelieves and turns away.
Does he not realize that God sees?

Enjoy the salat according to your understanding, but prioritize righteousness and best of luck .
GOD bless you all.
Peace.

Emre_1974tr

With machine translation from the book "Religion in the Quran" written in Turkish)

PRAYER IN THE QURAN

Understanding the prayer in the Qur'an is of great importance for Islam based on the Qur'an. The reason for this is the sectarian mentality; “How can we pray if we understand religion only from the Qur'an? We cannot pray just by looking at the Qur'an. This means that we need sources other than the Qur'an…”. Even the way sectarians ask this question is proof that they do not understand religion. What needs to be done is to determine the method in understanding religion and to understand and apply religion accordingly. After the source of religion is clear, the method; It is taking the source of religion before us and understanding prayer, fasting, morality and everything in the name of religion from this source. In other words, prayer will be understood from the source of religion. The source of religion will not be determined by the idea of prayer in the head. If there is a difference between the Qur'an and what is known in the name of prayer, the solution is not to change the source of religion, but to correct what we know about prayer.When we take in our hands the only source of religion, the Qur'an, we see that it contains all the necessary information for prayer. The most detailed form of worship in the Qur'an is prayer. However, this does not mean that every detail described in the name of prayer today is mentioned in the Qur'an. The elaborate mentality of the sects has touched the prayer as well as every other subject, and details that do not exist in the Qur'an, that is, in religion, have been added to the prayer.

It is wrong to do things that are not mentioned in the Qur'an in a certain way. For example, as we will see later, it is not obligatory to recite Surah Fatiha in prayer. But it is of course good to read the first chapter of the Qur'an, Fatiha, this part of the Qur'an, in prayer. In other words, stating that it is not obligatory to do this in prayer is not to be against that issue. It is wrong to assume an obligation that is not only mentioned in the Qur'an. Considering our example above, the mistake is not to read Surah Fatiha, but to say that it is obligatory to read Surah Fatiha every time you stand up. While reading this part and other parts of our book, please read, “This issue is not found in the prayer described in the Qur'an.” Pay attention to this subtlety in the things we said. Prayer in the Qur'anStarting with wudu and ablution (ghusl), which are the preparatory phases, are as follows

ABDEST AND BOY ABDEST (GUSUL)

In the Qur'an, wudu is only described as a condition of prayer. Also, when entering the mosque, while reading the Qur'an, it is not necessary to make wudu for any worship other than prayer, and for a long ablution (ghusl). In the Qur'an, ablution and ablution are mentioned in two verses that we will give shortly. Apart from these two verses, there is no verse in the Qur'an about wudu' and ablution. In other words, what we need to do, when we need to do wudu and ablution, and what to do if there is no water will be understood from these two verses.

O you who believe! When you get up for prayer; Wash your face and hands up to the elbows. Stroke your head and your feet up to the heels. If you are junub, get clean. If you are sick or on a journey, or if one of you has come from the footpath, or if you have touched women, and you cannot find water Rub your face and hands with clean earth. God does not want to cause you difficulties. Allah wants to cleanse you and complete His blessing on you. It is hoped that; thank you.

5 Surah Maida 6

O you who believe! Do not approach the prayer until you know what you are saying while intoxicated, and until you wash (ghusl, ablution) while you are junub, except when traveling. If you are sick or on a journey, if one of you has come from the footpath or touched women and cannot find water, make tayammum with clean earth rub your faces and hands. God is forgiving, forgiving.

4th An-Nisa' 43

Now let's ask our questions and answer them according to these two verses

Why is Ablution and Ablution Necessary?

It is clear from the verses that; Wudu and ablution are both necessary for a single prayer. 5 At the beginning of verse 6 of Surat al-Maida, it is said that ablution should be taken for prayer. In verse 43 of Surat an-Nisa 4, it is explained that a junub person cannot pray without washing.

When Is Ablution Taken?

If you pay attention to the last parts of both verses, we are told what to do when we need water but we cannot find it. It is also explained what invalidates wudu as it is explained to us that water is necessary. The expression we translate as "when you come from the foot path" shows us that ablution should be taken when it comes from the foot path. The Arabic word for "foot path" is "gait". This word in Arabic means "hole" and corresponds to the words "foot way, toilet". The place meant by the word is used only for this purpose.) In other words, the wudu' must be taken after those performed on the hollow places. With nothing described other than that, neither the shedding of blood,Eating camel meat does not invalidate wudu'. It is clear from the verse what invalidates wudu. Whatever people do to the hole in the "foot way" invalidates the ablution.

When to Take Wudu (Ghusl)?

“Abdest” and “boy ablution” are words that have passed into Turkish from Persian. They are not mentioned in the Qur'an. What we mean by "ablution of height", which is mentioned in the Qur'an, is the necessary washing when one becomes junub. Since "ghusl" already means "to bathe" in Arabic, there have been some people who have said "ghusl" or "ghusl ablution" in Turkish instead of "boy ablution". In both verses, it is said that the other state where water is necessary is "touching women". The expression "don't touch women" is also an idiom with the same meaning in Arabic.) In other words, the ablution is taken after sexual intercourse with women. We have already said that one's ablution is taken when one becomes junub. Junub is derived from the root "cenb". The root of this word has the meanings of "being close, togetherness".According to this, the term “cenabet” became the name for the result of the union, which is the most advanced level of togetherness. The meaning of the word "junub" also confirms the conclusion we reached in the verse about when to make ablution. Apart from sexual intercourse, it is not in the Qur'an that it is wajib (between fard and sunnah, close to fard) or circumcision to make ablution in the following situations. A person can make ablution whenever he wants, whenever he is comfortable, but a rule that does not come out of the Qur'an can not be imposed on anyone either by fard, obligatory, sunnah, or any other title. It is said that everything that is not explained in the 101st verse of 5 Maide Surah is forgiven. That's why no one should seek an additional answer to these unexplained questions, except that we are free in all matters that are not explained in the Qur'an.The meaning of the word "junub" also confirms the conclusion we reached in the verse about when to make ablution. Apart from sexual intercourse, it is not in the Qur'an that it is wajib (between fard and sunnah, close to fard) or circumcision to make ablution in the following situations. A person can make ablution whenever he wants, whenever he is comfortable, but a rule that does not come out of the Qur'an can not be imposed on anyone either by fard, obligatory, sunnah, or any other title. It is said that everything that is not explained in the 101st verse of 5 Maide Surah is forgiven. That's why no one should seek an additional answer to these unexplained questions, except that we are free in all matters that are not explained in the Qur'an.The meaning of the word "junub" also confirms the conclusion we reached in the verse about when to make ablution. Apart from sexual intercourse, it is not in the Qur'an that it is wajib (between fard and sunnah, close to fard) or circumcision to make ablution in the following situations. A person can make ablution whenever he wants, whenever he is comfortable, but a rule that does not come out of the Qur'an can not be imposed on anyone either by fard, obligatory, sunnah, or any other title. It is said that everything that is not explained in the 101st verse of 5 Maide Surah is forgiven. That's why no one should seek an additional answer to these unexplained questions, except that we are free in all matters that are not explained in the Qur'an.It is not in the Qur'an that it is wajib (between fard and sunnah, close to obligatory practice) or circumcision to take ablution in the following cases. A person can make ablution whenever he wants, whenever he is comfortable, but a rule that does not come out of the Qur'an can not be imposed on anyone either by fard, obligatory, sunnah, or any other title. It is said that everything that is not explained in the 101st verse of 5 Maide Surah is forgiven. That's why no one should seek an additional answer to these unexplained questions, except that we are free in all matters that are not explained in the Qur'an.It is not in the Qur'an that it is wajib (between fard and sunnah, close to obligatory practice) or circumcision to take ablution in the following cases. A person can make ablution whenever he wants, whenever he is comfortable, but a rule that does not come out of the Qur'an can not be imposed on anyone either by fard, obligatory, sunnah, or any other title. It is said that everything that is not explained in the 101st verse of 5 Maide Surah is forgiven. That's why no one should seek an additional answer to these unexplained questions, except that we are free in all matters that are not explained in the Qur'an.That's why no one should seek an additional answer to these unexplained questions, except that we are free in all matters that are not explained in the Qur'an.That's why no one should seek an additional answer to these unexplained questions, except that we are free in all matters that are not explained in the Qur'an.

How to Make Wudu?

At the beginning of the 6th verse of the 5th Surah, it is explained how we should make wudu. In this expression, the phrase "hands up to the face and elbows" is followed after the verb "wash", and the phrase "feet up to the head and heels" is used after the verb "stroke". What would you understand if someone said to you, “wash the bathroom and kitchen, wipe the hall and the hall”, does the doorway need to be washed or wiped? Everyone understands that the training needs to be deleted. However, all of the Sunni sects, for some reason, argued that the "feet" after the verb "stroke" should be "washed" instead of plastered. Then why isn't this expression in the verse after the verb "wash"? It is also not possible to say in the verse that it is said to be done from the top down, that stroking is an interim explanation and that it should be patted alone.because in the verse first the face and hands are mentioned, then they are dealt with and then the feet are descended. Therefore, there is no reason to refer to the verb "wash" to pat the feet up to the heels. This idea is derived from fabricated Sunni hadiths. However, according to many hadiths in Shiites, feet are rubbed with hands. Our aim is not to refute the hadiths with hadiths, but to show that those who do not see the Qur'an as sufficient behave arbitrarily even in the hadith. After stating that many Companions were content with patting their feet, Süleyman Ateş explains what is understood from the Arabic of the verse as follows these are the face and arms. He ordered both extremities to be stroked; These are the head and feet. It brought two complements after the verb wash. These are the face and hands.This means that the face and hands will be washed. He also brought two complements after the verb "stroke", these are the head and the feet. So these are the limbs to be stroked. There is a subtle point in the verse that strengthens this meaning immensely. Every word in the Qur'an is extremely harmonious and commensurate with each other. Now, just as the first of the two complements after the verb "wash" indicates a single limb and the second indicates two limbs (i.e. both hands), the first of the two complements after the verb "stroke" indicates a single limb and the second indicates two limbs (two feet). (Süleyman Ateş, Encyclopedia of the Qur'an, volume 1, mention of Ablution).Every word in the Qur'an is extremely harmonious and commensurate with each other. Now, just as the first of the two complements after the verb "wash" indicates a single limb and the second indicates two limbs (i.e. both hands), the first of the two complements after the verb "stroke" indicates a single limb and the second indicates two limbs (two feet). (Süleyman Ateş, Encyclopedia of the Qur'an, volume 1, mention of Ablution).Every word in the Qur'an is extremely harmonious and commensurate with each other. Now, just as the first of the two complements after the verb "wash" indicates a single limb and the second indicates two limbs (i.e. both hands), the first of the two complements after the verb "stroke" indicates a single limb and the second indicates two limbs (two feet). (Süleyman Ateş, Encyclopedia of the Qur'an, volume 1, mention of Ablution).

In short, hands are washed up to the face and elbows, the feet are rubbed up to the head and heels, and nothing is required. Whoever wishes, rinses his mouth and nose, rubs his neck with three fingers, crescents in his ears with his little finger, washes his feet with his heels, and recites prayers in Arabic every time he washes his limbs. But those who do these should know that they have nothing to do with wudu. Allah has explained wudu in the Qur'an and they are not included in that explanation.

How to Take Ablution Wudu?

We have said before that the ablution should be taken while he is junub. Two words describe what we should do when we are junub. The word "tahara" in Surah 5 Maida means "to clean", and the word "gasale" in Surah 4 Nisa means "to wash". For ablution, wash from here to there, rinse your mouth and nose three times, do not leave a place as dry as a pinhead, pour water three times starting from your right shoulder. Since there are no such restrictions, the word "gasale" means only "to bathe".

With the word "Tahara", the importance of getting rid of dirt in this washing process is understood. A person who fulfills this will have made wudu. If a mother says to her five-year-old child "Washer", that child will understand and wash. However, huge men are called "Washers", but they say, "How do I wash? What happens if there is a dry place as much as a pinhead? Which shoulder shall I pour water on first?” They do not understand the verse of Allah. moreover, they do not understand that this lack of understanding stems from their own ignorance. They also declare the book of Allah incomplete and take the books in which these strange questions are explained as a guide as if they are the complete and complete source of religion.

What to Do If Water Is Not Found?

Normally, the probability of a person not being able to find water is very low. The Qur'an's explanation of this situation is proof of how the Qur'an gives all the details when necessary. In all these cases, the person makes up for the lack of water by tayammum to a clean soil. Face and hands that cannot be washed are rubbed by rubbing hands on clean soil. Thus, the preparation for prayer is provided even when there is no water.

Please re-read the statements at the end of both verses about that Allah does not want to cause us difficulties, that He is forgiving and that he is forgiving, and those who have made ablution and ablution a lot of unnecessary details and difficulties.

TURNING TO THE QIBL

In verses 144, 149 and 150 of Surat al-Baqara, Muslims are told to return to the Masjid al-Haram, where the Kaaba is, wherever they are. This is an application that also gives order to prayer. In this way, especially the prayers that are performed together become more regular and regular. In verse 115 of Surat al-Baqara, it is said that wherever we turn, Allah is there, and false meanings are attributed to returning to the Kaaba, and the idolatry of the Masjid al-Haram and its surroundings is prevented. Existing mosques were built towards Masjid Haram based on the verses of Surat al-Baqara. Muslims perform their prayers by turning to Masjid al-Haram. If Muslims know the qibla (Masjid Haram direction), they turn there and pray. If they cannot find the direction, they will know that Allah is everywhere and continue their worship (2 Baqara Surah 115).

CLOTHING IN PRAYER, CLEANING

There is no special clothing for prayer in the Qur'an. Whoever prays alone, prays as he wishes. It is good for a person who goes to places where prayers are held together with a well-dressed and neat dress (See 7 Araf Surah 31). In verse 26 of Surah Araf, it is said that people have a style of clothing that will cover their private parts, as well as a style of clothing that will add beauty and adornment. Five verses after that, in 7Araf Surah 31, adornment is mentioned next to the mosque (in the area where the prayer is performed). We saw in Chapter 22 of the book that there is no such thing as a headscarf, and in other parts of the book, it is not necessary for a man to cover his calf. These non-normal obligations do not exist when praying. Because the Qur'an does not describe a special dress as a prayer dress.

The importance of cleaning and keeping the area where prayer will be performed can be understood from the verses of 2Baqara Surah 125 and 22Hajj Surah 26.

PRAYER TIMES

It is mentioned in the Qur'an that prayer is an obligatory time (4 Surah an-Nisa' 103). The Qur'an, which explains how to pray even in times of fear, has no doubt fully explained the times of the obligatory prayers. What we mean by the explanation of prayer times is to explain the obligatory prayers. Prayer is a praised act of worship. It is a way of turning to Allah and remembering Allah. In this respect, prayer is an act of worship that can be performed at any time. However, not every prayer performed is an obligatory prayer. For example, an extra prayer can be performed at midnight, but this does not mean that the prayer performed at midnight is obligatory. Undoubtedly, the Prophet and his relatives also prayed many times. Forgetting that the Qur'an is the only source, the sectarian mentality declared some of these prayers obligatory and others sunnah; Instead of understanding religion from the Qur'an,They formed a religion by interpreting the actions of the relatives of the Prophet in their own way. Sunni sects have made five prayers obligatory morning, noon, afternoon, evening and night. Shiites say that they make the three daily prayers obligatory and combine the five daily prayers at these times. About what the Kharijites in earlier times did two or three timesThere are also hadiths . Apart from these obligatory prayers, there are also many prayers such as the morning prayers, Duha, Sun, Lunar eclipse, Istikhara, Kadir, Regaip, and Beraat night prayers. The witr prayer, on the other hand, is obligatory for some, close to fard, and sunnah for others.

The Qur'an, which gives information about performing prayers in times of war, undoubtedly also explains the times of obligatory prayers. It is possible that the prayers, which are not proven in the Qur'an, were performed at certain times by certain people, caliphs, or even the Prophet. Because the Qur'an praises prayer, and it is of course good to perform prayers other than obligatory prayers. From this point of view, it is possible that the prayers mentioned above and not mentioned above, but mentioned in prayer books, were performed. However, it is a grave mistake to perceive prayers that are not mentioned in the Qur'an as obligatory prayers. When we look at the event from this point of view, the problem arose from the mistakes in the way the hadiths were interpreted. Now, let's learn about the obligatory prayers, together with their names and times, from the Qur'an, which is the only source of religion.

MORNING (FECR) PRAYER

In the Qur'an, the word prayer is expressed with the word "salat". “Salat”, which has the meaning of “connecting”, is also used for the connection that the servant establishes with his creator, that is, for prayer. The word "salat" was used together with the verb "replacement" to mean "to pray". The name "Salat Fecir", that is, "Morning Prayer", is mentioned in the 58th verse of Surah 24Nur. “Fajr” refers to the emergence of the first rays of the sun in the darkness of the night. This is a process that continues until sunrise. As a matter of fact, the time of this prayer, whose existence is evident from its name, is also determined in the 114th verse of 11Hud Surah.

Pray on both sides of the day and near the night. Beauty removes ugliness.

11 Hud Surah 114

In Arabic, “nehar” means “day” and “leyl” means “night”. The expression "Tarafeyinnahari" refers to the two sides of the day. If "Party"; It means “end, adjoining part from the outside”. It is used in the same sense in other verses of the Qur'an. If we take the beginning of the day as the sunrise and the end of the day as the sunset, there are morning and evening prayers on both sides of the day. In order to fully understand these times, it is emphasized that these times are close to daytime with the expression "zülefen minelleyl".

In other words, the morning prayer is mentioned in the 58th verse of 24Nur Surah. This name also describes the time of the morning prayer. In addition, the time of the morning prayer is determined in the 114th verse of 11Hud Surah. The morning prayer begins with the first light of the day and ends with the sunrise, which is the beginning of the day, as it is evident from the name "Salatul Fecir" in the Qur'an.

EVENING (İŞA) PRAYER

The name of the Isha prayer is also mentioned in the 58th verse of the 24Nur Surah. Those who look at the meaning of the word "Isaiah" in the dictionary will see that the time from sunset to dark, that is, the time we call "evening" in Turkish is called "Isa". The same word is also used in the 16th verse of 12 Yusuf Surah and the 46th verse of 79Naziat Surah. Some translators, who translated the same word in the other two verses as "evening", translated this word as "night prayer", which is a Turkish word, because they were under the influence of sectarian explanations. This translation gives the impression that the Qur'an has made obligatory the prayer described by the sects as the "night prayer", which is wrong. However, if the word "isha", which comes from the root of "to lie down", means that the "isa prayer" is the last obligatory prayer performed before going to bed, this is true. There is also a sign for this in the verse

O you who believe! Let those under your rule, those of you who have not reached the age of puberty, ask you for leave at three times. Before Fajr (morning) prayer, when you take off your clothes at noon, after Isha (evening) prayer. These are the three times you can be naked.

24 Surah Noor 58

The person who goes to the mosque to perform the last prayer and performs the prayer collectively will probably change his clothes because he will not go to the mosque after this prayer. He will be dressed in home clothes. Therefore, if the last prayer before going to bed is considered as the Isha prayer, this is true. Otherwise, if it is said that a word that expresses evening as a time, if it is combined with the word prayer, it expresses a different time, Isha, it is obvious that this is wrong. In this verse, there is a supporting expression that the last obligatory prayer is the evening prayer. Anyone who searches for the meaning of the word "isha" in Arabic dictionaries will see that the word "isha" refers to "the time period from sunset to the darkness of night". As for,they are always advised to respect privacy and enter their parents' rooms with permission.)

The verse in which the time of the evening prayer is understood (11Hud Surah 114) is the verse we mentioned in the morning prayer. One of the prayers performed on both sides of the day is the morning prayer, and the other is the evening prayer, which is the symmetry of this prayer. The time of this prayer is likewise the time of night that is close to daytime. Apart from this verse, there is another verse that determines the time of the evening prayer

Pray from the sunset to the dark of the night. The Qur'an is witnessed at dawn (morning) and the Qur'an at dawn (morning).

17 Isra Surah 78

The darkening of the night gives the end time of the evening. With the disappearance of the signs of the light, the time of the evening prayer ends. In this case, too, the expression "sunset" determines the sun's setting on the horizon. Thus, the time between sunset and darkening of the night is indicated as prayer time. In the continuation of this verse, it is interesting to emphasize the time of the morning prayer, which is constantly accompanied by the evening prayer. However, this verse emphasizes reading the Qur'an in the morning, not the morning prayer. This means that special attention should be paid to reciting the Qur'an within or outside the time of the morning prayer. As you can see, evening and morning prayers are mentioned in the Qur'an with their names. Moreover, these names also express the time when the prayer will be performed. In addition, the time of morning and evening prayers is also explained. moreover, in the 58th verse of 24 Nur Surah, it is the first of the day in the morning,There is a sign that evening is the last prayer of the day.

VUSTA (MIDDLE, BEST) PRAYER

Verse 238 of Surat al-Baqara is shown as evidence for the Vusta prayer.

Protect the prayers. And the vusta (middle, best) prayer too.

2 Baccarat Surah 238

Apart from the verses in which we have deduced the times of morning and evening prayers and this verse, there is no verse from which prayer times can be deduced. It means that prayer times will be understood from these verses. When the prayer at one end of the day is the morning prayer and the prayer at the other end of the day is the evening prayer, it is necessary to search for the middle prayer in the middle of these two prayers. If we consider that in all cultures, the day begins with waking up, the night was created for us to rest, and that we wake up at night and pray only for our Prophet (17 Isra Surah 79), the middle prayer is the time remaining between the morning and evening prayers. Although there may be some who think that it is a prayer performed in the middle of the day, given the meaning of "middle" to the word "wusta", since there is no expression limiting this word, it is necessary to accept the entire time period between morning and evening as the time for this prayer.When the middle prayer is concluded from the word vusta prayer, the word "vusta" becomes the word that determines both the name of the prayer and the time period.

According to another view, it is said that the word "vusta" has the meaning of "the best", that this word does not indicate a prayer, and that the verse indicates that the prayers should be protected and performed in the best way. A study of the word “Vusta” will clarify this point. This word is also used in the verses of 2Baqara Surah 143, 5Maide Surah 89, 68Kalam Surah 28, 100Adiyat Sura 5. You can try to understand the word “vusta” by examining these verses.

As you can see, there is no statement in the Qur'an that prayer is five times a day. The length of the prayer, what to say in bowing and prostration are not mentioned in the Qur'an. In fact, it is not found in the hadiths whether the prayer is long or short, what to say in ruku' or prostration. It is not possible to explain the prayer described today even with fabricated hadiths. Many issues in prayer were formed entirely by the personal views of the founders of the sect. that the Prophet prayed both too long and too short; There are many hadiths about long bowing and long prostration.has. However, the sectarians defined the bows as three “Subhane rabbiyal azim” and the prostrations with three “Subhane rabbiyal ala” expressions, condemning their imitators to these expressions only, and limiting what Allah has set free unnecessarily. As it is understood from the Qur'an, it would be understandable if the hadiths were interpreted correctly, as it is understood from the Qur'an, that normally we should say certain expressions in bowing and prostration or not, that the duration of the prayer is left to one's personal opinion . Sects have frozen a free space with their own determination.

It does not follow from all the hadiths that the prayer is five times a day. It is understood from many hadiths that our Prophet performed prayers three times a day. In particular, Shiites base this on their own hadiths while performing the three daily prayers. We think that the fact that Shiites pray three times a day and combine the five prayers in these three times is due to an effort to find a middle way between the two schools. Nowhere in the Qur'an is there a mention of combining (cem). According to the Qur'an, prayer is obligatory at the times we specify. If you pray three times a day and pray five or twenty times in these three times, you will still pray three times.

Even if the person who will perform the night prayer says that he has combined the five daily prayers with the night prayer, he will have performed only one night prayer. Because the one who performs the prayer, which is obligatory, is not the number of rak'ahs performed, but the fact that it is performed at a certain time. Like the Shiites, the Shafi, Maliki and Hanbali sects of the Ahl as-Sunnah have also been very tolerant in combining prayers. Some thought for no reason, some thought that prayers could be combined even in heavy rain. That is, according to denominations; Those who say that the Prophet combined (combined) the five daily prayers in three times would be admitting that the prayer cannot be more than three times a day. The minimum of the prayer is as much as the obligatory prayers. It is quite natural to perform the prayer extra. Declaring five obligatory prayers is an interpretation of Sunni sects. If prayers were five times, their names and times would be known from the Qur'an.Is it possible that the time of a prayer that is obligatory for all Muslims is not specified in the Qur'an, while even a special, extra time for prayer is specified for the Prophet (Surah 17 Isra 79)? As seen from the previous verses, there are prayers that are clear in the Qur'an. Why should we think that prayers such as late afternoon and night prayers are obligatory? We guess that some people have made extra prayers obligatory in order to organize the rosary and dhikr activities in the verses about remembering Allah (remembering), glorifying Allah (glorifying, turning). It may be a good method to perform dhikr and rosary activities by praying, but it is unacceptable to make these times obligatory as Allah has not made them obligatory.Is it at all possible that the time of a prayer, which is obligatory for all Muslims, is not specified? As seen from the previous verses, there are prayers that are clear in the Qur'an. Why should we think that prayers such as late afternoon and night prayers are obligatory? We guess that some people have made extra prayers obligatory in order to organize the rosary and dhikr activities in the verses about remembering Allah (remembering), glorifying Allah (glorifying, turning). It can be a good method to perform dhikr and rosary activities by praying, but it is unacceptable to make these times obligatory as Allah has not made them obligatory.Is it at all possible that the time of a prayer, which is obligatory for all Muslims, is not specified? As seen from the previous verses, there are prayers that are clear in the Qur'an. Why should we think that prayers such as late afternoon and night prayers are obligatory? We guess that some people have made extra prayers obligatory in order to organize the rosary and dhikr activities in the verses about remembering Allah (remembering), glorifying Allah (glorifying, turning). It can be a good method to perform dhikr and rosary activities by praying, but it is unacceptable to make these times obligatory as Allah has not made them obligatory.The rosary in the verses related to glorifying Allah (glorifying, turning) has made extra prayers obligatory in order to organize the activities of dhikr. It can be a good method to perform dhikr and rosary activities by praying, but it is unacceptable to make these times obligatory as Allah has not made them obligatory.The rosary in the verses related to glorifying Allah (glorifying, turning) has made extra prayers obligatory in order to organize the activities of dhikr. It can be a good method to perform dhikr and rosary activities by praying, but it is unacceptable to make these times obligatory as Allah has not made them obligatory.

17 Therefore, when you reach the evening and when you reach the morning, the rosary (exaltation, turning) is for Allah.

18 praises are His. In heaven and on earth, at the end of the day, when you reach noon.

30 Rum Surah 17.18

IS THERE A QAZA PRAYER?

We would like to state once again that which prayers are obligatory is derived from the Qur'an. Fard prayers are the prayers that Allah compels us to perform every day within a certain time period. The Qur'an tells us in verse 103 of Surat an-Nisa that prayer is obligatory in time, Surah Mearic

In verse 23, he says that this fard must be observed throughout life. There is no concept of accident prayer in the Qur'an. The one who does not perform the prayer, who misses it, repents to Allah for this, and then continues to perform his prayers meticulously. Allah has told us to fast on other days as much as the number of days we do not fast, and opened the door for this. If God wanted, he would have done the same for prayer. That's why no one should mislead those who will start the prayer by saying that you need to make up for the prayer like this in the past.

Our aim in this article is to separate the obligatory prayer from the non-fard. Every prayer performed to remember Allah is acceptable. Prayer is performed five times a day, ten times, and forty times a day. The obligatory times of prayer indicate the lower limit that we have to, the upper limit is free. Our guess is that the sects saw the Companions who prayed more because of the freedom of this upper limit; They made the afternoon prayer, the night prayer, the witr prayer obligatory, they made it obligatory. If we tried to understand the obligatory prayers from the actions of individuals instead of understanding the obligatory prayers from the Qur'an, we would encounter many additional prayers such as the awwabin prayer, the morning prayer, and the kusuf prayer. After all, religion is only what is written in the Qur'an, in prayer, as in all other matters. Allah did not leave any shortcomings in His book.

As a matter of fact, in Hajj, pilgrims are led three times in prayer. While a lot of details are given in the Qur'an for Hajj (even what to do if one's hair is shortened due to illness), why is it not mentioned in the Qur'an to reduce the prayer times for Hajj? If prayer is obligatory five times a day, on what basis are pilgrims praying less?

WHAT IS THE FIVE TIME PRAYER BASED ON?

Even in the early years of Islam, it was defended by the Kharijites and Mutezile that the prayers are not five times a day, and that the afternoon and night prayers are not obligatory. The hadith invented by those who try to prove that prayer is necessarily five times a day is terrible. According to this hadith, which we have mentioned before, our Prophet appears before Allah on the ascension and Allah makes the prayer obligatory fifty times, then Hz. Our Prophet, who came across Moses, Hz. Musa warns that there are so many prayers and that the ummah cannot afford it. Then our Prophet asks Allah for a reduction, and Allah reduces the number of prayers. On the way, Hz. Again, Moses says that there are so many prayer times. This go and go so that the prayer takes place nine times until it is reduced to five times. As a matter of fact, when the number of prayers reaches five, Hz. Although Moses recommended the discount again, our Prophet was now ashamed (!) for the prayer discount stops. According to this hadith, Allah does not know how many times people can pray, and our Prophet is a poor person who does not know anything. Hz. Moses, on the other hand, is the mentor of our Prophet, the corrector of Allah's decree, and our savior. The story of making the prayer obligatory five times a day is based on such an unacceptable hadith. It is not based on the Qur'an that prayer is five times a day, but on such explanations, especially on this hadith. The fact that there are hadiths stating that prayers are performed only two times, morning and evening, before the Miraj (See Bukhari 1/93 Tecrid Translation 2/233, Hadith no 22 is proof that the times of prayer were increased by this "ascension hadith". If the prayers were performed as two times before, why are the three prayers added later not mentioned in the Qur'an? Only Surah Al-Baqara is 238 in the Qur'an.It can be claimed that the "middle prayer" was added later as the expression in the verse is used. Well 4,5. From which verse of the Qur'an will the afternoon and night prayers, which are prayers, be deduced, why are they not named in the Qur'an? (We have explained the expression that means middle prayer or the best prayer in Salati Vusta) Instead of such hadiths that slander Allah and our Prophet, those who seek the truth in the Qur'an will gain the necessary information about prayer. Those who are not content with the Qur'an and try to base their religious practices on fabricated hadiths will remain in illogicality, slanders and contradictions, as we have seen for example.Why are their names not in the Qur'an? (We have explained the expression that means middle prayer or the best prayer in Salati Vusta) Instead of such hadiths that slander Allah and our Prophet, those who seek the truth in the Qur'an will gain the necessary information about prayer. Those who are not content with the Qur'an and try to base their religious practices on fabricated hadiths will remain in illogicality, slanders and contradictions, as we have seen for example.Why are their names not in the Qur'an? (We have explained the expression that means middle prayer or the best prayer in Salati Vusta) Instead of such hadiths that slander Allah and our Prophet, those who seek the truth in the Qur'an will gain the necessary information about prayer. Those who are not content with the Qur'an and try to base their religious practices on fabricated hadiths will remain in illogicality, slanders and contradictions, as we have seen for example.

WHAT THE PRAYER CONTAINS

Prayer is an act of worship to remember (remember) Allah (20 Surah Taha 14). However, unlike the remembrance of Allah, prayer is made obligatory at certain times, it must be performed with wudu, and it includes certain movements. Prayer is such a worship that it is performed even during war. In the 102nd verse of Surat an-Nisa, we see that one group performs prayers and the other group keeps watch in case of war. After prostrating, the other group takes the place of the first group and performs its prayer. Here, we see that even in a situation where there is a danger of war, prayers are performed including prostration (prostration is the most vulnerable state of the person), but this is done in turns, without laying down weapons and without giving the enemy a chance. If the obligatory prayer is performed like this even in war, the resurrection of the prayer at the normal time,The importance of performing ruku and prostration is better understood.

From the Qur'an (14Ibrahim Surah 40) the prayer of Hz. We understand that it is a worship that has existed since Abraham. Hz. Even the pagans, who captured the Kaaba, Abraham's house of worship, and who were partners to Allah, used to perform the prayer in a perverse way (Surat al-Anfal, 35). The Qur'an states that previous generations also abandoned their prayer habits as a result of following their lusts (Surah 19 Maryam 59). That is, in the time of our Prophet, when prayer was called "salat", people understood what the prayer was and its actions. Just as today, when prayer is mentioned, even people who do not pray understand the movements of prayer, turning to Allah and worshiping. There are three words in the Qur'an that mean moving worship. These are “qiyam (standing)”, “ruku (bending)”, “prostration (downturning)”. The position of the Prophet Abraham as a place of prayer in the Qur'an,Keeping the house clean is enough (Surat al-Baqara, 125). In the 26th verse of Surah 22-Hajj, it is ordered to keep the house clean for those who stand up, bow down and prostrate, thus showing what the three movements of prayer are all together.

The most important part and feature of the prayer is the remembrance of Allah in the prayer. As a matter of fact, we understand from the 14th verse of Surah 20Taha that the purpose of performing the prayer is to remember Allah. In the Qur'an, there is no mention of reading the Qur'an in prayer. But when the Qur'an is being introduced to us, it is said that the Qur'an is "dhikr", that is, a reminder. Thus, we realize that our guide is the Qur'an when we pray, pray and invoke Allah. For example, Allah's forgiveness, mercy, creation of everything, paradise, hell, the eternity of knowledge are all learned from the Qur'an. We know that we are in front of a merciful and forgiving God, we remember (remember) God accordingly, and we turn to God accordingly. In other words, we do not have to read the Quran in Arabic in prayer. because there is no command to read the Qur'an in prayer,How to understand that it is necessary to read the Quran in Arabic? But when we remember Allah in prayer, we use the information in the Qur'an. For example, we do not necessarily need to say "Kul huvallahu ahad" in Arabic.

hawk99

a feature of the prayer is the remembrance of Allah in the prayer. As a matter of fact, we understand from the 14th verse of Surah 20Taha that the purpose of performing the prayer is to remember Allah. In the Qur'an, there is no mention of reading the Qur'an in prayer. But when the Qur'an is being introduced to us, it is said that the Qur'an is "dhikr", that is, a reminder. Thus, we realize that our guide is the Qur'an when we pray, pray and invoke Allah. For example, Allah's forgiveness, mercy, creation of everything, paradise, hell, the eternity of knowledge are all learned from the Qur'an. We know that we are in front of a merciful and forgiving God, we remember (remember) God accordingly, and we turn to God accordingly. In other words, we do not have to read the Quran in Arabic in prayer. because there is no command to read the Qur'an in prayer,How to understand that it is necessary to read the Quran in Arabic? But when we remember Allah in prayer, we use the information in the Qur'an. For example, we do not necessarily need to say "Kul huvallahu ahad" in Arabic.

Insightful, thanks.

peace

Fusion

Insightful, thanks.

peace

Well said because I always wonder how a converted would offer prayers in Arabic.
Wanted to further understand how to reconcile what you both affirmed with the understanding of the following verse

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, your Lord is well aware that you sometimes spend nearly two-thirds of the night at prayer––sometimes half, sometimes a third––as do some of your followers. God determines the division of night and day. He knows that you will not be able to keep a measure of it and He has relented towards all of you, so recite as much of the Quran as is easy for you. He knows that some of you will be sick, some of you travelling through the land seeking God’s bounty, some of you fighting in God’s way recite as much as is easy for you, keep up the prayer, pay the prescribed alms, and make God a good loan. Whatever good you store up for yourselves will be improved and increased for you. Ask God for His forgiveness, He is most forgiving, most merciful.

Thank you

Euphoric

WHAT IS THE FIVE TIME PRAYER BASED ON?

Even in the early years of Islam, it was defended by the Kharijites and Mutezile that the prayers are not five times a day, and that the afternoon and night prayers are not obligatory.

Salaamun alaikum,

Could you give a reference and full quote if possible to this?

Wakas

Salaamun alaikum,

Could you give a reference and full quote if possible to this?

Something similar here
http//islam-and-muslims.com/islamic-books-online.html

The Development Of Islamic Ritual
Editor G. R. Hawting
Excellent articles about salat (called 'prayer&#039 in early Islam
www.scribd.com/doc/37518694/Uri-Rubin-Morning-and-Evening-Prayers-in-early-Islam-by-muslims
http//urirubin.com/yahoo_site_admin/assets/docs/Morningreduced.86230109.pdf

centi50

Salam to all

My understanding of salat as a ritual is based on 1 question why would God tell us to perform a physical thing like ablution for a spiritual salat(no rituals)

In regards to how many salat I know of 3 which I found in Quran Fajr wusta and eisha.

Fajr to me is before the sunrise
Eisha to me is night darkness
Wusta to me is noon

I do standing reciting the quran
While in bowing I praise and gloryfy my lord who the one God whom I believe created everything.

In sujud I gloryfy again my lord and ask him anything I want. Like Eg oh my lord I ask you to guide me to worship you alone and not leave me on my own. I ask you for protection from Satan who misguide human beings and jinn.

Then I sit down folding my legs just as traditionalist do. Then also I glorify him and ask whatever I want.

I talk to my lord during siting and prostrating.

I end my salat by saying alhamdullilah lilah rabil alameen

That's it, now if u ask me how many ritual prayer I take I say a minimum of 3

If someone wants do 100 thats him I don't see anything wrong with that.

I also gloryfy him not during prayer time only

I do it my heart.

Sometimes I wake up during the night and I gloryfy him and read Quran and talk to him also asking him what I want

Quran alone Muslims have different views on salat and everyone will prove his case from Quran.

At the end its you to decide. I don't condone who is right who is wrong in salat interpretation.

May God guide us all to right path

God bless you all

ade_cool

I like to have an understanding of the following verses if salat is NOT an established ritual.

629-10 (i believe it is quite evident that it means group prayer in a prescribed place)
O you who have faith! When the call is made for prayer on Friday, hurry toward the remembrance of God, and leave all business. That is better for you, should you know. And when the prayer is finished, disperse through the land and seek God's grace, and remember God greatly so that you may be successful.

Salam Fusion,

There is no such thing as Friday prayer. The simple reason is the name "Friday" assigned to one of the day in a week is arbitrary. Furthermore, a week is not always 7 days. We just happen to follow the consensus that one week has seven days and one of the days we call it "Friday" but it could have been different and the consensus can change as well in the future.

For more details, please check this out
https//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9611471.msg433724#msg433724

How can we say that the so called Friday prayer is commanded by God in Quran when we know for sure, it is our own/human consensus to call one particular day in a week as "Friday"?

Wassalam

Fusion

Salam Fusion,

There is no such thing as Friday prayer. The simple reason is the name "Friday" assigned to one of the day in a week is arbitrary. Furthermore, a week is not always 7 days. We just happen to follow the consensus that one week has seven days and one of the days we call it "Friday" but it could have been different and the consensus can change as well in the future.

For more details, please check this out
https//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9611471.msg433724#msg433724

How can we say that the so called Friday prayer is commanded by God in Quran when we know for sure, it is our own/human consensus to call one particular day in a week as "Friday"?

Wassalam

Thank you for your reply. Your strong statements made me speechless, I do not know what to believe any more.
I understand that hadiths are mostly fabricated, however historically what were the prophet and his companions doing in terms of prayers and days of the week esp Friday. I mean Quran and Islam were actually started with the prophet and the his companions followed and then after 200 years some one decided to write books called hadiths to explain the lives and calls of the prophet and his followers. Which means essentially we will never know how the prophet and his companions have understood Quran and how they have followed it in their lives.

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What am trying to understand is that during the course of Quran being sent down to the prophet, the people then, did they follow the Quran as the traditional Muslims believe or they followed as you and some of the folks who followed and understand Quran the way as seen in many posts here? In the later case, these Muslims may not be doing rituals or Friday prayers and so on.. the point is leave hadiths.. are there no historical evidences to reflect the lives of Arabs during the time of prophet ( from following message in essence). Now one can not completely reject hadiths as that would be naive, especially where historic incidents are mentioned. Why because we have evidences of early Arabs shaping the Islamic world through conquests and surely you may argue that islam never asked to to indulge in such forcing the religion as institution but then it means one thing that people who lived with the prophet also taken Quran literally and followed it wrongly similar to what Muslims have done so far in majority. Your thoughts pls

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